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mrgorth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 01:32 PM
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Would you support Hillary in '08 if Dean asked you to?
I say this because right now I don't think I could support Hillary in an '08 run. I'm not a fan of hers. She doesn't excite me and I don't think she could win a general election. That said, I'm a Dean democrat and if Dean is still the chairman and asks me to, I suppose that might be good enough. Thoughts?
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 01:33 PM
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1. I'm a democrat and if she is the nominee I will support her
Dean will support her if she is the nominee but as party chair he won't take a stand in favor of one candidate over another.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 01:34 PM
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2. I agree
:-)
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 01:35 PM
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4. If she is serious about fixing the media and having a papertrail then yes
otherwise she is wasting our time and hers.
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 01:38 PM
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9. I agree as well
I don't need anyone's blessing to support someone.
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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 01:35 PM
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3. Primary? No. Gen'l election? Maybe.
Depends on a lot.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 01:35 PM
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5. whoever the DEM is I will vote for and that is all I will say on that.
:)
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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 01:36 PM
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6. Dean, as chairman, has to ask the party to support whoever gets nominated.
So no. I wouldn't.

Frankly, if it was a Hillary vs. Republican ticket I would vote 3rd party.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 01:37 PM
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7. Not even if Jesus asked me to.
I briefly supported Dean as an alternative to the 4 pro-war candidates and hope that he can perform a major miracle and wrest the party from the "moderates". But, I would see an endorsement of Hillary as a complete sell-out.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 01:37 PM
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8. If she won the primary, I'd support her, but
I don't think she could win a general election. I like her, and I think she is a very intelligent person and is the only woman I could imagin being a good American President. There are just too many people in our country who would NEVER vote for a female President, and way too many who still hate the Clintons and always will. Sad!
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Voltaire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 01:41 PM
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16. I agree with all your points
As much as I like Hillary as a person she would be a 49 State Loser or damned close to it. The name Clinton on the ballot would cause record voter turnout. For the REPUBLICANS. I'd support her if she was the eventual nominee, but I would hope my party is not that short-sighted.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 03:33 PM
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32. I would if she was the nominee and
made it past the primaries. I don't think the country is ready for Hillary yet much less a woman president. I do like Hillary and I think it's great how she's still doing active politics and not just a Laura Bush stepford wife. I think she's really smart but I don't know if she'd make it through the primaries if she was to run because of how she's more center and right now we need someone who isn't as center as Mrs. Clinton.
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Darryl Cramer Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 01:39 PM
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10. Wouldn't have a choice
If she were the '08 candidate I'd have to support her, because chances are the Republican alternative would be so odious that I wouldn't have a choice. I'm just hoping that I won't have to make that decision.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 01:39 PM
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11. The nominee is the nominee. It isn't the chair's job to advocate
Edited on Fri Feb-11-05 01:42 PM by janx
one primary candidate over another. Dean wouldn't do that.

And all of this "Hillary will run" business is just media gossip perpetrated by the right wingnuts.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 01:40 PM
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12. Absolutely. She's going to make a great president
and Bill will make a helluva First Man!!
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 01:40 PM
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13. I'd vote for her-- that's it
She's way too right-wing for me to actually work for her. If she got the nod, I'd bust my @$$ on local races-- because I don't think she'd have ANY coattails.

After all of Kerry's triangulating, that's basically what happened last year. I voted for him (first time I voted for a Dem presidential candidate since 1992, btw) but I did little footwork for him.
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AverageJoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 01:40 PM
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14. I'll support our candidate
Edited on Fri Feb-11-05 01:41 PM by AverageJoe
But right now I'm not sure that H.C. has much chance of being that candidate. I'm not convinced she has the necessary on-camera presence, frankly, to move people in this digital, sound-bite age. Couple that with the intense dislike the Republicans have for her, and thus the vanishingly small chance that she would draw any votes from the other side, and I find it hard to concieve of Hillary being effective as our flag bearer next time. So, I don't think she will be the candidate.

Of course, I may be wrong.

Regardless, whoever gets the nod gets my support and my vote.
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Extend a Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 01:40 PM
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15. Primary? No, General Election Yes.
I hope that Hillary is not nominated as the democratic candidate. While I think that she is a great champion of liberal causes and a *very* smart lady, I believe that she is far too polarizing a personality to win in the general election. But I would vote for her if she is nominated by the democratic party.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 01:43 PM
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17. I would support the nominee
if she were Hillary Clinton, yes, but I doubt Chairman Dean will be telling people how to vote in a primary, if that's what you mean.
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mrgorth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 01:50 PM
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21. No. I mean general.
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MsTryska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 01:43 PM
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18. nope.
nt
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utahgirl Donating Member (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 01:45 PM
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19. If she's the one,
I'll support her as soon as Edwards swings his support.. or maybe Kerry. She's not my fav by any means but I saw her briefly on something or other being interviewed and perhaps I just don't know enough about her. One thing I'll grant--to have survived Big Dog's presidency, she has to have nerves of steel.

utahgirl
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sarahlee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 01:45 PM
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20. Nope
If Dems support Hillary, it means they have learned nothing. Best to cut the losses and start a new 3rd party or go back to the Greens.
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Drifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 01:51 PM
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22. No Chance ...
I do not support her as the Senator from NY.

She is as much of a divider as the AWOL chimp.

Cheers
Drifter
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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 01:53 PM
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23. I won't support her for two reasons
1 I think the nomination of Hillary is a sure way to lose the election and I would have to punish us all for being so stupid

2 I think she's given up on trying to do the right thing for this country and is now only worried about what might help her chances of being elected president. Sorry, but I gotta tell it like I see it.
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 01:54 PM
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24. If Dean asked... Yes.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 01:59 PM
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25.  I cannot picture Dean supporting her and her current centrist positions.
If she manages to demonstrate that she actually supports more progressive positions by '08, I could support her. I voted for her for Senator because I thought she was more progressive than she has proved to be.
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erpowers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 02:29 PM
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26. Depends
If Russ Feingold runs in the primaries against her I will probably vote for him because I like his stances more than her stances. If Feingold does not run I will look at some of the other candidates before looking at her. If Hillary Clinton gets the Democratic nomination I will vote for her against the Republican. In the primaries Dean's support of her will not get me to vote for her. So Dean's support or lack of support will not really affect my vote in 2008. I am a Dean supporter too, but it does not matter who he supports in the primaries.
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3rdParty Donating Member (119 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 03:03 PM
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28. I think its hers for the asking and ....
the frontrunner to WIN as well.

She will win every blue state kerry won and with the woman vote percentage up and overwelmingly hers, she only needs 1 more red state. Its a done deal!!!!
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lojasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 03:08 PM
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29. Nope. EOM
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borg5575 Donating Member (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 03:30 PM
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30. No way
Hillary has moved way too far to the right. It's Boxer all the way for me.
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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 03:30 PM
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31. No, I love Dean
and I voted for Kerry because Dean asked us to. Once Bitten, Twice Shy comes to mind.

Hillary Clinton is not yet qualified to be president. Being a one term Senator is not what is needed in prez candidates. Richardson or Vilsack as former governors would be better fits.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 03:38 PM
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33. I think she needs more experience
as a Senator or just in anything with politics. Like you said she doesn't have quite as much experience as Kerry or even Edwards.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 03:52 PM
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34. no
nt
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 03:55 PM
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35. I support people because I choose to.
I don't support anyone because I'm asked to.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 04:00 PM
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36. No, I want to win.
Nominating Hillary is the surest way to bring about the total collapse of the Democratic Party. She has zero chance of winning. Why does everyone want to push what the RW so desperately wants?
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BlueInRed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 04:02 PM
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37. I can't imagine that coming to pass
and I thought the DNC chair wasn't supposed to weigh in on one prex candidate. Or maybe that's just tradition. Anyway, I just don't see that happening given where Dean is and where Hillary is at present.
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