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reichstag911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 03:53 PM
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I like Durbin in '08
Edited on Mon Feb-28-05 03:54 PM by reichstag911
Anyone else out there? I'm not sure what kind of national recognition he's got, but I view him as 1) staunchly Democratic, thus currently a real opposition party leader; 2) far less polarizing a figure than Hillary (David Geffen was absolutely right about that, IMO), whom many people seem to believe will be the nominee; and 3) minimal negatives that I know of, and I'm here in Illinois where I almost certainly would be aware of them.

From a "Town Hall" meeting today on SocSec at Loyola University (great turnout: event hall overflowed; secondary, closed-circuit auditorium also overflowed; I was in the third room to fill up). Could I have gotten closer? (Contrast with King George's tendency to avoid real Murrikans at all costs.)

http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/bc/41ac9e01_11256/bc/Events+-+Celebs/durbin+at+soc+sec+town+hall+meeting.jpg?BCFL4ICBl8hmsjs7
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 03:55 PM
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1. Midwestern Candidate
Sounds good to me. Time to get away from the Northeast vs. South/South vs. South candidates we normally get.
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 03:56 PM
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2. I just said that to someone
He is one of my favorite Senators. And he has that midwestern, down to earth way about him that would appeal to so many.
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reichstag911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 03:57 PM
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3. Good to see he's known in NY n/t
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 04:05 PM
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5. You mean this
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3193921

The only reason to change the index would be to pay for his privitization. Retirees would get screwed.
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 01:02 AM
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19. And he's so gutsy and straight-forward! How 'bout Durbin & Boxer!
That would be a double-whammy!

Yep, I'd vote for that!
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reichstag911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 10:07 AM
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26. I 'd like it, but...
...I don't think they'd have a shot in the GE. Maybe a swing state VP - or even the head of the ticket could be from a swing state, with Durbin getting the VP nod if he can't get the nomination. Bottom line, I think the Dems need a Karl Rove: someone who is absolutely committed to winning, who is adept at the repug gutter-fighting tactics. It would be unfirtunate to have to stoop to their level, but we are losing this country to fascists, and it's time to take off the kid gloves, strip away the polite veneer, and win. By any means necessary.
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gottaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 04:02 PM
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4. I like Durbin now.
I haven't seen signals that he's positioning himself to vie for the nomination. Of the Senators, I also like Boxer, Kerry and Feingold, all of whom seem to be eyeing the possibility.

We'll see how things develop. I could imagine enthusiastically supporting Durbin.
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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 04:07 PM
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6. Ever since he took on Paul Findlay
I have been a Dick Durbin fan ever since he took on and beat Paul Findlay.

At that time I was an "Anybody But Findlay" contributor.

And, Durbin knocked off Findlay -- who was backed by the same Big Buck folks who back Bush.

And, I have been very favorably impressed with Durbin ever since.

My path was from "Paul Findlay Hater" to "Real Dick Durbin Fan".
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Colorado Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 04:59 PM
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7. I like him too! (Chicago resident) - didn't know all that much
about him until recently when he's REALLY been impressive on all sorts of issues.

Would vote for Durbin in a heartbeat.
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returnable Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 05:09 PM
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8. Too bad the DU circular firing squad would kill him...
...once they learned of his anti-choice past. :hi:



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Us vs Them Donating Member (725 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 05:21 PM
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9. I too was in the third room!
And though I was dedicated to standing in the doorway throughout the entire speech, the payoff was grand. When Durbin came in and they shut the doors behind him, the room suddenly became very intimate.

I would back him in any race he decided to run for. He's a brilliant legislator, and an asset to our side. Approachable, down to earth, intelligent but not lofty.

Durbin would be my personal choice for nomination - but I'm selfishly keeping it a secret until at least 2007. Like many here, I'm already sick of hearing about Hillary.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 05:44 PM
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10. Given his new post as Whip, I don't think that he'll run...
That said, he's well spoken, stands up for what he believes in, and holds the GOP's feet to the fire more than any other senator with the exception of Boxer. Feingold might be the only one in the primaries that I'd vote for over Durbin.
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 06:06 PM
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11. Hey, I was there too!
Also in that room. (Til the very end when some space opened up in overflow room #2 where we also got hi's from Obama and Schakowsky before they too bailed out for pre-snowstorm flights).

I'm with ya. Durbin rules. Not sure if he's expressed any interest in running - has he?
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reichstag911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 06:21 PM
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12. Not to my knowledge...
...and I can't figure out why there's no real buzz about him. :shrug:

btw, I was the one that congratulated and thanked him for 1) his vote against Condi's confirmation, 2) his letter to Bush on l'affaire Gannon, and 3) his anticipated work against Bush judicial nominees.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 11:49 PM
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16. No
He was discussed as a serious contender for VP in 2000, and apparently he wasn't too interested. I don't get the impression he has ever wanted to be elected to national office. He may like what he is doing.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 07:03 PM
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13. This would be a dream...experience & integrity.
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Hailtothechimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 11:43 PM
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14. Proud that Durbin's my Senator.
Barack Obama.......not so much. (my apologies to Jon Stewart).

Durbin first got elected to Congress 20+ years ago representing my hometown of Springield, the home of another well-known Illinois politician (very well-known, indeed).

He'd make a fantastic candidate in 2008.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 11:46 PM
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15. He would have won in '04
He was one of only two Senators up for re-election that voted against the IWR. That took courage. The other was Wellstone.
Being from the midwest is an advantage. He represented a rural congressional district for years, so he knows how to persuade moderates over to his liberal views. Also, he has a big fundraising base in Illinois, which would give him a big advantage in the primary. I think he is the most electable hard core liberal in America.
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 09:58 AM
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25. He's the most popular politican in IL history, next to Paul Simon.
:thumbsup:
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reichstag911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 12:32 PM
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28. and no bow tie! :-) n/t
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 06:16 PM
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34. He gives Lincoln a run for his money, at least.
And Lincoln freed the slaves, so that's saying something.
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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 12:02 AM
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17. absolutely
Edited on Tue Mar-01-05 12:03 AM by Neecy
He's personable, well-spoken, and smart (and I loved the poem he wrote about the Cubbies a couple of years ago, and read on the floor of the Senate - he seems to have a great sense of humor).

It's time to nominate a midwesterner - personally, I'm tired of listening to southern (or fake Texas) accents.
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RealDems Donating Member (230 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 12:12 AM
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18. I've actually always liked Durbin
When I was in college, I interned in the Senate (not for Durbin), and of every Senator I noticed, Durbin was the most down-to-Earth. He was one of the few Senators who stood in line at the cafeteria, behind staff, tourists -- whoever had gotten there first. He drove to work in a little maroon Saturn, which I always thought was so... I don't know... "average." Hell, I drive a maroon Saturn. He just seemed the complete opposite of the image of elitist Senator. As for President, I don't know -- I hadn't thought of it. But, I did always admire him as a Senator.
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 09:54 AM
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24. Thanks for sharing that.
Makes me like him even more!
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 01:06 AM
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20. Aw...when was he at Loyola? If he comes to L.A. again, can someone post?
I would've loved to have heard him...andon S.S.!!
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reichstag911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 08:20 AM
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22. Loyola U. (in Chgo.), not Loyola Marymount.
sorry ::cry::shrug:
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barackmyworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 01:33 AM
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21. ah! Wish I could have gone to that thing
I got the email, but I'm at school. What a shame, I'm sure there were a lot of great people there.
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reichstag911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 04:47 PM
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29. It was interesting, certainly, but...
...there were the usual Dem organizational screwups: ambient miking in the main hall for the secondary speakers which did not get through to the closed-circuit broadcast rooms for shit, a reference in Schakowsky's PowerPoint presentation that confused Bull and Bear market conditions.

We Dems need a Rove-like organizational discipline to stage-manage our events as clearly and as "on message" as the repugs do. Until we do, things are gonna be tough. We also need to get our hands as dirty as the repugs do; this is turning into a fight for the soul of America, and they're winning. The kid gloves need to come off, and we need to tighten up.
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John_H Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 08:58 AM
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23. I loooove dick durbin. But I don't think he can get the nomination.
If he were from 300 miles north of Springfield in, say Madison, WI, he'd be in good poition, but I think most Dems will want someone from a swing state in 08, 'cause that's what the mediawhores will tell them to want.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 11:42 AM
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27. I don't know. There's time, and he's had
a much higher profile lately. I like what I'm hearing! (CSPAN2 now, RE: bankruptcy bill, which he opposes, unlike Biden, from what I read on DU).
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cestpaspossible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 04:56 PM
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30. Don't think he wants it.
I like him.
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RapidCreek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 05:39 PM
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31. I do too.
He's frank, plain spken, verbally quick on his feet and not the least bit cowed or intimidated by reTHUGlicans. In fact, I get the impression he's at his best cutting their talking points to ribbons. He's proactive, never defensive and doesn't allow the debate to be framed with anything other than the facts. This is the sort of individual the blue collar worker of this country will respect.

RC

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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 05:54 PM
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32. I don't think he's interested
I think he's quite happy, right where he is.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 05:57 PM
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33. We already tried a Senator. (n/t)
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reichstag911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 12:47 AM
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35. We didn't try him... n/t
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 01:12 AM
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36. We also tried a Governor once, Michael Dukakis
We also tried a Vice President, Gore.
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