Michael Schiavo

[pen dragon]

Does anyone else on this board think he's a self serving bag of excrement or am I alone on that? Just wondering why almost every post I read here has him as some kind of saint with only Terry's best interests at heart. I think there's enough data on this guy to put reasonable doubt to that. He's got his own best interests at heart, her family be damned. I get creepy vibes everytime i see this guy, shades of scott peterson.

i could be wrong, so flame my ass if you will

[Dookus]

1. There have been

countless baseless accusations made against him. There is NO evidence to back up any of them.

He's doing what he thinks is right,and I applaud him for it. Her parents are proven liars who are being used by right-wing fucknuts to advance a political agenda.

[ronnykmarshall]

96. He has taken the high road

and had never attacked Terri's family even after they've whored themselves out on TV.

[RaRa]

101. "Her parents are proven liars"

not doubting you at all....what's that about, though? I've tried not to follow this sickening spectacle. But now I am curious what the hell is wrong with the parents? Are the religious freaks? Anyone care to inform me as I'm not interested (read too lazy) to read all the stories to find out.

[flamin lib]

2. Yep, you're the only one . . .

[ET Awful]

3. If he had his own interests in mind, and not hers, he would have taken

the millions of dollars he's been offered over the past few weeks and walked away.

He had an opportunity to make a HUGE amount of money and passed.

So tell me, why would he pass on millions of dollars?

[trotsky]

8. Yes, exactly.

There is no money to be made for him in letting Terri's body die. There is, however, a lot of money and publicity for his parents in letting her live.

The OP should go second-guess someone else's motives.

[Warpy]

29. Right, especially since he's not the one with control over this whole

circus. The court and their surrogates have been appointed has Schiavo's guardians in this thing, and 20 judges have now agreed that it's her wish and in her best interest to leave that tube out.

Michael Schiavo could have taken the religious wrong's multimillion dollars and walked away without changing the outcome of this thing.

That he didn't says a lot about his character.

Other than that, he's probably neither saint nor sinner.

[goodhue]

4. self-serving?!

I'm not sure what the basis for that impression would be.

[BrklynLiberal]

5. You're are very misinformed, and I am being very kind

[Demit]

6. Your creepy vibes? Is that the data you mean?

[Contrary1]

7. I honestly don't know what kind of person he

is or how I would appear to others after 15 years of going through this ordeal. Until there is concrete
evidence put forth as to him being a scum ball or a saint, I won't be judging him one way or the other.

[greenbriar]

9. oh yea

okay


he has only her best interests at heart.

I would want my hubby to be the same way

INCLUDING having happiness and a family if I were in Teri's position

[drdon326]

10. I'm with YOU !!

Hes not credible.

[Dookus]

12. 20 judges

who have examined all the facts disagree with you.

[bowens43]

15. Have you read the transcripts of the court proceedings?

or the testimony of the doctors who have examined her?

I doubt it.

[drdon326]

21. No one here has....

the parents want to take care of her....and so would i if i were them.

[ET Awful]

34. No one here has?

They're public record, anyone can read them that so desires. All the court proceedings are public and so is all the documentaiton. Several here have read them.

[Dookus]

36. no one here has read

the court transcripts? I think you're wrong.

yes, her parents want to care for her. I want a pony, too.

[carpe diem]

62. if you were in Terri Schiavo's condition...

would you want your parents/spouse/children spending decades taking care of you when you aren't even aware enough to know that they're doing it...regardless of how willing they were to do it...

[molly]

30. I'm with YOU and YOU and the more

I see of him, the more I don't trust him.

[Lindacooks]

65. Well, gee, that's certainly scientific.

See how well that 'opinion' would play out in the court of law. TWENTY judges have agreed with Mr. Schiavo, and they know all the facts of the case. You do not.

[itwasfraud04]

109. RE: Well, gee, that's certainly scientific.

"See how well that 'opinion' would play out in the court of law. TWENTY judges have agreed with Mr. Schiavo, and they know all the facts of the case. You do not."

Were you so willing to stand by while judges selected the president in 2000? Are you pro-death penalty? I ask because in many death penalty cases, perhaps upward of "TWENTY" judges have agreed with the ruling that resulted in death as well.

I am always skeptical of the rulings of judges, especially because some of the most important decisions are made by unelected judges.

[LSparkle]

11. He's been through hell

I've heard that he took active care of her for at least the first few years after her injury, flying her to California for an operation to implant a device in her brain (didn't work), caring for her at home, etc. The money he's supposed to "come into" has all been spent on Terri's care (only around $50K is supposedly left from a $1M settlement). 15 years is a long time to stand by and watch your spouse suffer, especially when he and the parents began to disagree about what should be done. I don't get creepy vibes off him at all -- just the tired frustration of a man who's been trying to carry out his wife's wishes for years and just FINALLY wants to move on with his life, with his conscience clear that he did the best he could to do what Terri would have wanted. He may not be a saint, but he's been totally slandered by DeLay and the Thugs and I haven't heard him get nasty in retaliation -- if I were in his shoes, I probably would have lost it at least once!

[molly]

32. He has the warmth and confort of another woman

and 2 kids by her. He just wants Terri DEAD!

[Dookus]

38. ah

more Michael Schiavo cock-sniffing. Where he puts his genitals and with whom has nothing to do with the legal issues of this case.

And you DO know, don't you, that he began dating again YEARS after Terri was in her current state, and at the URGING of her parents.

[bowens43]

13. stay away from the koolaid.

Stay away from the 'save terri' sites and read the actual transcripts of the various court proceedings. I hope that after this is over that Mr. Schiavo sues the hell out of everyone involved in spreading the unsubstantiated rumors.

The people who have smeared him would make Karl Rove and Goebbels proud.

[greenbriar]

17. I would if I were he

and I would start with that trashy nurse wanna be that was fired and is angling for her own book deal

[deadparrot]

14. I would say that

I don't know enough about the guy to make a judgement.

I know what the parent's lawyers say, and I know what his lawyers say. I really don't have the authority to say whether this guy is good or bad. I suppose that he doesn't strike me as a murderer whose only aim is to kill his wife and collect her insurance money, considering he and her parents fought together for seven years to save her and there's no money for him to inherit.

[candy331]

16. Stir up the board and sit back and lol huh, because if you don't

know by now why you are the only one then no help will be found here, "Seek (elsewhere) and Ye Shall Find"

[pen dragon]

22. Nice reply

I guess I'm a freeper now

[greenbriar]

24. if it walks like a duck

and quacks like a duck...

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[yellowcanine]

50. Nice play of the martyr card. Just because you "went against the grain"

doesn't make you rightous. It could also mean everyone else is right and you are wrong. You were practically begging to get flamed so I suspect you enjoy being a martyr.

[merci_me]

18. He could have pulled a Rusty Yates and divorced her years ago.

From what I've read, he's been offered a million dollars from two different sources and also recently ten million dollars to sign off and turned it all down.

What else does he have to gain? I haven't a clue.

Maybe he wasn't a great husband, lots of husbands aren't. That isn't a crime.

[msanthrope]

98. Rusty? That nice Christian boy?

Don't get me started on that piece of shit.....

[atreides1]

19. You're wrong

The man isn't a saint, but he did everything that was possible when this happened. He took her to California to see if doctors there could do anything to reverse the brain damage, he was almost served with a restraining order by the hospice, because he became obsessed with making sure that his wife was being taken care of.

As for the money he received in the lawsuit, most of it was placed into a trust fund to cover his wife's medical bills. When he finally was convinced by doctors that there wwas no hope, that's when his in-laws started with the attacks.

Heard about all of this from the doctor that was appointed by Jeb after he pushed foward "Terri's Law". Dr. Wolfson was on Nightline last night, and he was CNN this morning, and yet the attacks on Mr. Schiavo continue.

Now Jeb wants to change the law in Florida, just because this man has a girlfriend that he's been living with, and has had two children with.

There are people here who for some reason have taken up the cause of the parents based on, one side of the situation, and have attacked this man.

I won't flame you, but before you make a decision about someone, make sure you know the whole story, not just one side of it.

That's the least that any of us can do.

[HockeyMom]

20. Scott Peterson

Yes, I think a lot of people, even those not admitting it, are equating Michael Schiavo with Scott Peterson. First, these court cases have been gong on for YEARS. MANY judges have ruled that this is what sh would have wanted, not just based on Schiavo's testimony alone. You do know that her friends have ALSO testified in court? I saw an interview a while ago with one of her girlfriend's who said that Terri told her the same. She said they were talking about Karen Quinlin at the time and that Teri said she would not want to be keep alive like that. It seems, however, NONE of the media is bringing this up.

Second, this sets a precedent for ALL of us. Our spouses words will mean nothing anymore? Will it have to be proved they are good and faithful? Or will all married people now have to have their own Living Wills? Or perhaps we can ask Tom Delay or the good Dr. Frist to make the decision for us?

Gays are saying they want marriage so they can make medical decisions for their partners. Well, with this case it seems that spousal (straight) decisions are going right out the door. Ironic?

[shrub chipper]

23. "creepy" vibes

You mean like the ones I get from reading your OP?

[pen dragon]

26. Hey I got the same creepy vibes from Reagan, Cheney

and both Bush's too. In another thread I'd be a hero

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[ronnykmarshall]

105. Tap! Tap! Tap! *raises baton*

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[shrub chipper]

27. speaking of 'creepy' vibes eom

[molly]

40. What's creepy to you - this poster is correct

[ET Awful]

39. Hardly the same thing, in fact your argument is as irrational as they come

She didn't say she wanted to "kill herself" she said that she didn't want heroic measures taken to save her life, I believe her words were "no tubes."

Millions of people every year sign living wills for exactly that purpose, to make it perfectly clear that they want no heroic measures (whether that's a feeding tube or a breathing machine) taken.

Take your flame-baiting non-sensical rhetoric somewhere where people will buy into it.

Here we'll see it for what it is, complete and utter nonsense.

[molly]

42. I'm here and I buy it.....

we don't know what she said - do we?

[ET Awful]

46. Well, considering that her friends, her husband, and 20 courts

have heard the matter and all came to the same conclusion, I'd say we have a much better idea than the irrational "save the woman without a cerebral cortex" folks do.

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[LibertyorDeath]

28. He may think the same of you if he read your post

"he's a self serving bag of excrement"

but he seems like to much of a decent person to say it.

So where did you come up with your analysis

You know something everyone else doesn't

Did he kill a previous wife?

Does he eat dead babies?

or is this just something you can intuit

please enlighten us.

I'm big on wisdom so please expand on this missive

"get creepy vibes every time i see this guy"

are they mildly creepy

moderately creepy

or the dreaded Strong creepy vibes.

[johnlal]

33. He's not running for office

It doesn't matter whether you like him or not. He's not running for office. He's not campaigning to make you like him. He is an individual, involved in a very painful dispute. He can't have an objective opinion on any of this, because he is so intimately involved.

The rest of us have to look at this objectively. We have to look at the broader issues. To look subjectively at Terri Schiavo's case and to take sides is the wrong way to make policy.

[pen dragon]

45. Actually, I wonder why any of this is anyone's business

but the woman's family and her husband's. The Republicans and the democrats should both stay the fuck out of it, and leave it off the news . Maybe what makes me sick is how both sides have turned it into another political polo match, the one caught in the middle be damned, and everyone seems to feel they have a right to an opinion on it. Including me.

Or maybe it's just the medieval practice of starving her to death is what has my ass hairs on end. There's no ending other than death if they permanently remove the feeding tube, so why don't we all just advocate her being put humanely to sleep with lethal injection instead of watching her waste away on CNN like a bunch of voyeuristic ghouls.

And let's all buy her hubbie a beer when he holds her post mortem press conference and announces he's negotiating a book and movie deal now that she's dead.

[yellowcanine]

57. There you go again. How do you know he wants a book/movie deal?

You don't. And furthermore - she will die of dehydration, not starvation. If she is medicated properly she won't suffer. People die this way every day. Do your homework before making your pronouncements.

[pen dragon]

71. Show me an American who doesn't cash in

and I'll show you a polar kangaroo

[pbartch]

78. I agree with your post. the original poster doesn't document any "facts"

why???

[molly]

58. That's what I say - if you want her to die - inject her

the pugs are using this as political agenda and here we are on DU taking an opposing stand mostly to take an opposing stand.

[pen dragon]

64. true

[ronnykmarshall]

108. Oh PLEASE!

The one's that will be looking for the book deal will be her parents.

[Tom Rinaldo]

35. This sounds cold, but even were that true, it doesn't matter.

And I am NOT saying it is true. But if somehow your worst fears were true, while it might be a human tragedy, what the Republicans are trying to do would STILL be a humongous travesty.

Every day in American thousands of juries and judges reach conclusions in criminal and civil cases. Most of the time a good faith effort is made to find truth and justice, sometimes it isn't. We all have to believe that the vast majority of the time the justice system gets it right the first time, and if it doesn't, then various appeals systems exist to hopefully correct errors that were made. Still miscarriages of Justice do happen. But the Federal Government does not intervene in individual cases when someone has a doubt that Justice was served. It has long been a Republican policy initiative to streamline the appeal process for the Death Penalty, to speed it up, to limit the amount of appeals that are possible.

People have had their appeals thrown out in Death Penalty cases where serious flaws in the judicial system were well documented simply because they missed the filing deadline for appeals by a few weeks or months. Does Congress care about any of those cases? No, let the suckers fry even if they may be innocent. Times up.

Are we going to become a nation where the media circus picks up a trial a month to sensationalize, so that the National Government can then drop everything and work through the weekend to rework the verdict?

This isn't a case which was rushed through a Court with an alcoholic Judge and a sleeping defense lawyer. This isn't a case where no one had the money needed to file for an appeal. This is a case that has gone on for 7 years. The hypocrisy appalls me. Congress isn't an Ombudsman for people who don't like the way a case is decided in a State Court. U.S. One isn't kept fueled and ready with a full flight crew so that the President can fly to Washington in the middle of the night to sign a rushed through law requiring the Federal Courts to review an individual legal decision.

Why don't we all call our local Public Defenders Offices and find other cases that Congress can intervene in? How many people are sitting on Death Row who claim they are innocent? Shouldn't we err on the side of life?

If Michael Schiavo had been an unfit legal guardian for his wife it was the responsibility of the legal system in Florida to replace him as her Guardian. The case was studied and studied again and again. Congress had no business getting involved. It is a sickening political abuse of power.

[lojasmo]

37. If I was in terri's position, I would want him to move on....

But protect my interests, and utilize his position to advocate for the wishes I had expressed during life.

[molly]

41. We don't know her wishes were - only

what he says they were.

[ET Awful]

49. He, and her friends, and 20 courts so far.

Why do you leave that out? Oh yeah, because it proves you wrong, silly me.

[Dookus]

52. 20 judges

disagree with you.

[greenbriar]

54. and several of her friends

I truly hope you don't end up in this same position some day

[molly]

69. Actually, I'm scheduled for major surgery

very soon and I will make sure that I have a very precise living will. I won't let my estranged-adulterous husband make ANY decisions.

[greenbriar]

88. MS was not estranged-adulterous

before this happened

[molly]

97. Ummmm - are we sure?

and didn't he take some sort of vow like "til death do us part"? Guess he just couldn't wait - could he?

[greenbriar]

114. Just how old are you

you sound like Brittany spears who just wants to make out with her new hubby and doesn't want to be bothered with telling her maid and nanny to take care of the step kids.


this is the real world honey

take your rose colored glasses off

[lojasmo]

82. and at least two other people corroborated. EOM

[Robin Hood]

43. His creepiness a side.

How many of us have recently said out loud, "If I were Terri Schiavo, I would want to be put to the long sleep". Because so many of us have made comments like that, is why the courts have decided on Michael Schiavo's side. His testimony and testimony from Terri's friends where they claim that she had been known to utter that sentiment.

I wouldn't want to live like she is living, and I think that Michael is a brave man to have fought for this cause like he has. He must of really loved her. He could have given her over to her parents long ago. But I am sure that Terri would not have wanted that.

I don't know if I could have fought like he has for all of these years.

[yellowcanine]

44. You don't know Michael Schiavo - you really have some nerve judging

him. You don't know what he went through up to the time he finally decided that his wife wasn't going to recover. He could have divorced her then but he didn't. The settlement money has long since run out - her care is being taken care of by Medicaid. If your spouse were in this state - can you really say you wouldn't find somebody else after 5 years without resolution or improvement? I don't think so. You don't know him - you are in no position to judge.

[pen dragon]

51. sorry , but do you know him?

[yellowcanine]

66. No I don't. That;'s why I am not judging him the way you are. But I

have a wife and I can imagine how I would feel if I were in his situation and can understand how he might make the decisions he is making. If he were the scoundrel you say he would have dumped her years ago. Why would anyone accept this burden unless they still cared for the person?

[pbartch]

48. WHERE IS YOUR DOCUMENTATION?

PROVIDE IT PLEASE. If you can't, you'll be called unsubstaniated slandering with a questionable agenda.

[pen dragon]

53. yeah ok

[lavenderdiva]

56. okay here ya go...

:grr: :nuke:

[girl gone mad]

59. Here's what Terri's mom had to say about Michael Schiavo in 1992:

"He's there every day," she said. "He is loving, caring. I don't know of any young boy that would be as attentive. ... He's just been unbelievable. And I know without him there is no way I could have survived all this."

[greenbriar]

61. IF he just wanted her dead

he would have taken the pay off and split.

10 million dollars would be a great start with his new family.


but no

he chooses to fight for her.

[molly]

63. Much too obvious

he's not fighting for her - he's fighting for him. If he were fighting for her, give her a divorce and let her parents have her.

[greenbriar]

67. what ever

your mind is made up


what is your republican voter reg number


your colors are showing

[molly]

72. Grow up!

I've been a registered DEM probably longer than you have been alive - hence your "mature" response.

[Lindacooks]

75. If you are 'grown up', then you understand that the very basis of

marriage is being threatened here. If the government can insert itself into a marriage, there is no stopping it. This is about right to privacy, the sanctity of marriage, and personal dignity.

[molly]

79. That's part of the point - he has absolutely no respect

for his "marriage". He's been cheating for years and years and years. I do not believe that the government should be involved, but the guy gives me the creeps.

[Dookus]

89. So explain what you want him to do...

she was in a persistent vegetative state for years before her parents URGED him to move on and start seeing other women.

Should he have remained celibate and without love for the rest of his life, or should he have just crawled on Terri twice a week to give her a little "jump-start"?

[molly]

92. Divorce her

[Dookus]

100. well

fortunately, you can't compel him to do that. He loves his wife and is taking exceptional care of her. He is following her wishes.

[molly]

102. He "loves" her?

could have fooled me. Actions speak louder than words.

[Dookus]

107. yes, actions do

he has cared for exceptionally for 15 years. He even went to nursing school to learn to care for her.

Her parents, on the other hand, have consistently lied and cheated, and have expressed outright that they would ignore Terri's wishes. They have said they would amputate her limbs and have open-heart surgery performed on her, just to keep her body alive, EVEN IF THEY KNEW IT WAS AGAINST HER WISHES!

They have sold their daughter's corpse to a bunch of right-wing fundies.

Yes, actions speak louder than words. Her parents are monsters.

[molly]

111. Who would you be supporting if the pugs

took the opposite stance and wanted her dead? That what bothers me most about a lot of posters here - they just follow the crowd and take a stance against the pugs - no matter what.

[Dookus]

113. My view on this

has nothing to with the politics of her parents.

I believe we ALL have the right to self-determination. I believe being kept alive artifically while in a persistent vegetative state is stupid and wasteful, and the vast majority of Americans agree with me on that.

You are regurgitating nothing but right-wing lies, and THAT'S what I object to.

[molly]

115. She is not in a persistent vegetative state

[deadparrot]

95. Schindlers admit that they encouraged him to date...

In some ways, Schiavo was treated as a son. He once brought a girlfriend home to meet the Schindlers, seeking their approval, and said they had encouraged him to date.

"I think I said he deserved to start a new life," Bob Schindler said in testimony in 1993.

http://www.sptimes.com/2003/11/23/Tampabay/Schiavo_clash_is_root.shtml

Granted, it goes on to say that they wanted him to divorce her. But Mr. Schiavo didn't just go and shack up with a woman without discussing it with the Schindlers.

[greenbriar]

90. what ever

.


maturity breeds maturity

hence my replys to your comments

bet you haven't even been married as long as Mrs. Schivo has been in her vegative state.

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[greenbriar]

93. what ever

:)

[PassingFair]

83. She is definitely NOT a freeper, but

I suspect that she sides with the fellows in the brown robes.

[molly]

87. What's a brown robe?

[Dookus]

70. that's insane

For the sake of argument, imagine that he is telling the truth about Terri's wishes. Should he STILL divorce her and let her linger for possibly decades longer in a state she SAID she didn't want to be kept?

Sorry, he doesn't have to divorce her to please you, her parents, or anyone else.

[Lindacooks]

73. Do you understand this phrase: 'sanctity of marriage'???????

He is her legal guardian; that happened when they got married. He knows that she would NOT want to be paraded around like this - for God's sake, she was a woman who was very conscious of how she presented herself to the world. Do you think she'd want those horrible closeup photos of her beamed around the world, INCLUDING the one where they pull up her hospital gown to show the feeding tube???

And besides, 20, count 'em, TWENTY, judges have agreed with Mr. Schiavo. NONE have agreed with the parents.

[molly]

86. He doesn't understand "sanctity of marriage"

or he wouldn't be so obvious about his adultery. Someone must have agreed with the parents - how many times has that tube been re-inserted?

If this were one of my sons, I would move heaven and earth to fight their cheating spouse.

[gnofg]

68. don't know

if he is an asshole but he does have a common law wife and 2 kids and I think once you are that committed to a new family then you relinquish your guardianship on the first family. You can't have 2 families.

[caligirl]

84. ssome cultish religions do allow for this or did. And it was her family

that encouraged him to move on with this aspect of his life. You have no business being so judgemental here. Even if you did have a similar experience it isn't his experience. In the mormon faith, which allowed more than one wife for a long time, if you are married in the temple and your spouse dies you are still married to that person in the after life. You can still have multiple wives in that sense. Though not here on earth anymore. Hubby got to much of the morman cult and left.

[caligirl]

74. disagree with you on this. Her parents can't separate their beliefs from

and wishes as being distinctly different from their 41 year old daughter. Its common, they really think she couldn't believe any differently from them. They are wrong, her husband knows it and is caring out her wishes which her parents won't do. They can't see it.

"As for the money he received in the lawsuit, most of it was placed into a trust fund to cover his wife's medical bills."

I recall it was at that point the parents took an interest in what was happening to their daughter. Prior to this point they weren't interfering with her care. The recollection is from a Larry King interview with the husband and his lawyer at least a year ago. anyone else recall this?

[CJCRANE]

77. His eyes

looked kinda dark and intense, but that's prob due to stress, lack of sleep and anger, which are quite understandable.

[Bridget Burke]

80. That's what Michael Schiavo gets for calling DeLay a snake.

Lots of venom from DeLay's supporters.

Ignorance is too kind a word....

[pen dragon]

81. i dislike delay

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[caligirl]

91. you did ask to get flamed didn't you? You know how it is here.

:nuke: :nuke: :beer: :beer:

[pen dragon]

99. No I didn't ask

I said flame my ass if you will, because I know people are people and that's what happens when you express an opinion counter to what the consensus is. Which makes many on this board no different than the low tolerance for opposing opinion freeps we all love to denounce here.

[caligirl]

110. needlessly impugniing a mans reputation is uncalled for.

You said "i could be wrong, so flame my ass if you will". Sorry I took you at your word, guess you didn't really mean it.


And there is a huge problem with saying you get flamed here for having a differing opinion from the DU "consensus" opinion. When I see flame jobs done its largely been to freepers, those who offer no facts to back up assertions, those who are so blatantly uninformed but come here to state opinions based on spec, or ideology that doesn't hold water. You can't argue a case with supposition, innuendo and emotionally charged empty rants. I am not saying you have done any of this, but if you have why not offer proof that the mans character is less than perfect.

otherwise your just impugning the reputation of someone who is in a terrible battle now.

[yellowcanine]

94. I think you started this and invited the flaming. It is a little

disingenuous to act as if you are the rational person here and everyone else is "drinking the kool-aid". And shouting is rude.

[The empressof all]

103. He doesn't wear his emotion on his sleeve.

Perhaps what you may be getting a "feeling" about is the fact that he's not crying, and screaming all over the media. Personally I think he is demonstrating remarkable restraint in the throws of all the personal attacks being lobbied against him, his motives, and his love for his wife.

He appears to be trying to maintain as dignified a stance as possible in the middle of this circus.

[CoffeeCat]

104. Michael Schiavo has been "Swiftboatted"...

...and I think he did all he could for Terri. He continues to honor her, as he carries out her wishes. Despite this horrendous, unanticipated firestorm--he still loves her enough to carry out her wishes.

Most everything we've heard about Michael Schiavo is lies and distortions from sick politicians with an agenda.

Michael Schiavo had better start fighting. Pretty soon, they'll have control of his image--and when that happens--they can pretty much do whatever they want.

You have to fight back against these creeps and call out their evil.

Just ask John Kerry what happens when you hope that people won't believe liars and tall tales.

Those liars and tall tales end up owning you.

[pen dragon]

112. show me proof where

she told him she would want to die and I'll rescind my original post. The guy sure gets the benefit of the doubt on that here

[Goldmund]

106. Yeah, and the guy who lives two doors down from my house

-- not the red house, but the yellow, you know -- he, that guy is a total shit.

Oh, and also, have you heard the latest on cheese fermentation advancements in Northern France?

[pinto]

116. locking

Thread's become a flame fest.

Thanks for your consideration.

DU Mod