Democrats are "against people of faith".

[Cyrano]

So says Senator/Doctor Bill Frist, as printed on the front page of today's NY Times. The goal is to prevent Dems from filibustering Bush's judicial appointments.

He also said, "The filibuster was once abused to protect racial bias, and it is now being used against people of faith." You would think that only some grotesque KKK thug would utter that kind of crap to twist the truth. Every time you think the Republicans have hit rock bottom, you find out that the depth of their sewer is beyond comprehension.

We already know that their goal is to let Bush appoint any "Christian" wingnut he wants to the federal district courts and the supreme court. But the tactics being used by scum like Frist (and so many others) are serving only to further shred our Constitution and our sense of civility.

I've previously given thought to the idea of moving to Canada. But I've realized that if the freepers, fundies, and their bought and paid for politicians attain their goals, no place on this planet will be safe from them. (Imagine if the Taliban had had our nuclear arsenal.) Our weak economy aside, picture these people in total charge of the most awesome weapons in the history of the world, and no one to challenge what they do with them.

[htuttle]

1. What are they talking about? It takes a LOT of faith to be a Democrat!

Almost as much faith as you need to be a Red Sox or Cubs fan...

[LittleClarkie]

30. www.catholicdemocrats.net

Imagine what it takes to be a Catholic Democrat.

[Norquist Nemesis]

2. Well, Dr. Frist, if you're talking about reality based people...

then yes! Definitely!

[Vickers]

3. No, we are pro-Constitution

Get it right Dr. Get-AIDS--From-Sweat-And-Tears :eyes:

[kentuck]

4. No one on the court is a Christian ??

Wow! I didn't know that.

[Cyrano]

5. Note the quote marks around "Christian."

Can't tell whether or not you're serious.

[kentuck]

7. When Frist and the right-wing talk about "people of faith"...

they are talking evangelical Christians. They don't give much credence to other religions.

[GOPBasher]

8. Right. Exactly!

They say "people of faith." But they only like evangelical, near fundamentalist or fundamentalist Christians. THEY are the ones who are against people of faith. They're against Catholics, mainline Protestants, Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists and pretty much anyone else.

[Ouabache]

21. a fundie I know said Bob Dole is probably "not really a Christian"

after I asked him why Bob Dole would do Viagra commercials.

I told the fundie to his face that would probably be news to Dole and most Americans, but that it showed the real and FINAL agenda of the radical christian rightwing.

It shut him up. He knew he had outed their real agenda.

[CarolNYC]

6. This is such bullshit

Two organizations that are fighting against this crap:

www.interfaithalliance.org

www.catholicsforfaithfulcitizenship.org

Check them out and support them if you are so inclined.

[LittleClarkie]

35. Thanks for those

I'm putting together links to pass on to my local Democratic Party newsletter. I will add these. See also www.catholicdemocrats.net. That's my favorite link of the day.

[bobthedrummer]

9. I hear this coming from Frist but I remember what good Christians Nazis

promoted themselves as. We truly are fascist governed today.

[WI_DEM]

10. typical Republican dirty tricks: trying to divide Americans

[Daphne08]

11. I've grown so weary of the word 'faith'

If Senator Frist were the kind of Christian who followed the teachings of Christ, he would divest himself of his trust fund (donating it to the poor), retire from the Senate and get back to the job of healing people!

Just my opinion.

[xchrom]

12. scum-bucket frist opens his yap-trap

and gets it wrong again.

[sakabatou]

13. He's off his rocker again...

We don't like them because they are not very good: ie. corrupt, would radicalize the US more towards fascism, and many other things.

[More Than A Feeling]

14. Sigh, this was entirely predictable (n/t)

[Robin Hood]

15. people of faith are against anyone that is not like themselves.

And they have the nerve to scream discrimination. It's like Hitler whining about his innocence and persecution.

[ProgressiveDepot.com]

16. Every Democrat is an atheist, religion hater

Didn't you hear?

[Hell Hath No Fury]

17. CALL BILL FRIST NOW!!!!!

Let him have -- make sure he knows that Democrats of real faith are disgusted by his actions.

Washington, D.C.:
Office of Senator Bill Frist
509 Hart Senate Office Building
Washington, DC 20510
202-224-3344
202-228-1264 (fax)

Nashville:
Office of Senator Bill Frist
28 White Bridge Road
Suite 211
Nashville, TN 37205
615-352-9411
615-352-9985 (fax)


CALL OR FAX NOW!! DO IT!!!!

[SillyGoose]

22. Thank you for the contact info....I've faxed him this letter

Dear Senator Frist,
I am a Roman Catholic democrat. Does that qualify me as being “of faith” in your book? Does my political registration cancel out my “faith” in your world? What qualifies you as being “of faith”, Senator Frist? Is your “faith” superior to mine because we are on opposite ends of the political spectrum? I am sick and tired of you phony “Christians” spewing out hate and intolerance under the guise of “faith”.

If you and the rest of these so-called “Christian” conservatives were so concerned about “faith” and doing the “Christian” thing, maybe you and they would have paid heed to the Pope’s remarks regarding the immoral war in Iraq. But it appears that a lot of the “faithful” think “faith” is to be adhered to when it is convenient, when one can capitalize on it (like the Papal funeral) or when one wishes to use it as a billy club.

Also, it appears you are ill informed regarding how things work in Washington, Senator. This New York Times article quotes your colleague John McCain as follows: "By the way, when Bill Clinton was president, we, effectively, in the Judiciary Committee blocked a number of his nominees," Mr. McCain said. Now you want to change the rules so the republicans can rule with absolute power by invoking the “nuclear option”? How very unpatriotic of you and your Republican cohorts.
Regards, ac8916

[Hell Hath No Fury]

28. Here's mine I just faxed out...

April 15, 2005

Office of Senator Bill Frist
509 Hart Senate Office Building
Washington, DC 20510


Sen. Frist,

I have just finished reading an article about your participation in the upcoming Family Research Council telecast scheduled for April 24.

As a woman who is a Democrat and was raised in the Catholic faith, I find your insinuation that the Democratic Party is somehow "against people of faith" because they are attempting to keep a few of George Bush's more extreme federal judicial candidates from being appointed deeply insulting.

In fact, I find much of what you and the more radical "christian" element of the GOP have been peddling recently to be insulting as a Christian and an American who believes deeply in the freedom of religion promised by our founding fathers and our Constitution.

I am a Democrat because of my twelve years of religious schooling. My Dominican teachers instilled in me a love of social justice and equality for all Americans, a sense of responsibility for my fellow citizens and the planet, belief in and respect for science, and a love of the document that allowed me the privilege of true freedom of - and from -- religion. And because of this, I will always vigorously fight any attempt to interject the government into my religion or religion into our great system of government.

I don't know what alternative reality you and those like you live in Mr. Frist, but I have never once been discriminated against as a Christian, I have never once been stopped from practicing my faith as I see fit, nor have I ever thought that my freedom of religion was in danger from any ruling coming out of our justice system. Yet, you would have Christians believe we are just a few judicial rulings away from the total destruction of Christianity in America. What lunacy and fear-mongering. And what a cynical, ugly use of religion to further your Presidential aspirations.

Sincerely,
HHNF

Come on DUers, let yourself be heard!

[BeachBuckeye]

31. great post

Well said!

[Fleshdancer]

18. Bill Frist isn't God and he has no place speaking on God's behalf.

Democrats have so many good ways of responding to crap like this and yet many do nothing or say nothing and it KILLS me.

Looking to a politician for moral guidance is like going to a gynocologist to get your teeth cleaned. You know it's a bad idea from the start and you'll never get the results you need.

[Arkana]

19. Well, "Dr." Frist, I would say it takes security in your faith to be a Dem

If you're one of those Bible-sucking conversion machines who thinks anyone who isn't born-again is going to hell, THEN you're kinda against people of faith.

[youspeakmylanguage]

20. We should be jumping for joy when we hear statements like this...

...it means that the leaders of the GOP (not just a few loudmouths in the peanut gallery) are now pandering on a daily basis to the radical fundamentalist fringe.

Doesn't anyone else see this as a sign of desperation, one we can exploit?

[Cyrano]

23. How can we jump for joy when we suspect that our votes don't count?

As long as Diebold and ES&S own and control voting machines with no paper trails, assholes like Frist, DeLay, Bush, Cheney, and all the rest of them can go on saying and doing whatever they want to do.

I, for one, refuse to believe that Max Cleland lost in Georgia in 2002, or that Bush won in Ohio in 2004. Why the hell isn't the Democratic party screaming for paper trails? And they shouldn't be doing it just before next year's elections. They should be yelling at the top of their lungs right now, as should we.

[youspeakmylanguage]

25. When enough of the public turns on them...

...then all the voting fraud in the world won't be able to save them.

We need a smoking gun before we can prove anything. I believe it exists, mostly on the local lever, and therefore that smoking gun will turn up. But if you think a Democrat couldn't be realistically defeated in that reddest of red states known as Georgia, then you aren't dealing with the reality of the situation.

[Clark Bayh 2008]

27. Flood his office with calls... maybe that will wake him up

[Bouncy Ball]

24. How does he explain Democrats who have religious beliefs?

Huh?

Idiot.

This is just more of the "poor poor me, I'm such a persecuted Christian" crap.

I'm a Christian. I am about as unpersecuted for that as you can GET. I'm more persecuted for my POLITICAL beliefs than my religious ones.

[FreedomAngel82]

26. Also

if you look at it the last few democratic president's have been Christian. Clinton, Carter, Kennedy. They're all Christians. Carter is more of a Christian then any of these fools. Thank God Frist is leaving next year.

[Dr Fate]

29. A cat killing quack who thinks he IS Jesus.

Pu-leeeze.

[mhr]

32. Mr. Frist - I Am Against People Like Yourself Dictating Faith To Me

Sir, you can believe anything you want; just don't tell me how to think or what faith I have to follow.

[Ian David]

33. I don't mind people of faith so long as they act Atheist

and don't try to cram their lifestyle down my throat.

If they want to lead a Religious Lifestyle, that's their choice whether I agree with it or not.

I just don't think my children should be exposed to it in school or in public.

[mitchum]

34. I hope that he is with Jesus SOON!

[Cyrano]

36. Actually, he wants to be in the White House in '08.

He's watched Bush kiss the asses of the fundies and he thinks it will work for him too. IMO, that era is coming to an end. The Schiavo circus exposed the insanity of these people and I think that politicians will soon be running away from them as quickly as possible.

Yeah, I know, the lunatic fringe Christians are the Republican's base. But you need more than your base to win an election (assuming the voting machines aren't rigged).

[mourningdove92]

37. go here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1726239

let them know how you feel.

[pelagius]

38. If I'm a Christian and a Democrat...

...than that means I can hate myself, right? :banghead: