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Fri Jan-23-04 07:25 PM
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Trying to take Clark apart before NH Tuesday! |
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That is the main goal of not only the repukes but of a few Dem candidates as well. They want Clark in at least fourth place. If Clark hits at least second he is home free.
What people should be asking and getting out to others is , Why was it Kerry had to borrow against his own home? Why was Kerry's campaign virtually dead?
How can you think about a trial lawyer that has barely any experience be it domestic or foriegn asigned our countries highest office, for the love of GOD, Bush even had more experience then Edwards.
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Fri Jan-23-04 07:27 PM
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1. 4th isn't a problem, where did Clinton land in NH? n/t |
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Fri Jan-23-04 07:28 PM
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3. don't compare this campaign to Clintons |
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Things are just way too different.
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Fri Jan-23-04 07:32 PM
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8. Clinton placed 2nd in NH and 3rd in IA, just like Dean will |
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Fri Jan-23-04 07:28 PM
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I firmly believe Clark can handle what ever is thrown at him. If he can't then he should bow out. But I don't see that happening.
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Fri Jan-23-04 07:37 PM
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16. I said the same thing about Dean before they cut him down to 11% support |
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Fri Jan-23-04 07:57 PM
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19. the general public doesn't follow politics like... |
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We do here. Many if not most get their info from such stations as CNN, MSNBC etc.
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Fri Jan-23-04 07:29 PM
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4. I Want To See Clark Do Well In NH |
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But I don't want to smear Kerry or Edwards to do it.
We cannot attack our Democratic candidates in an effort to make our own candidate look better.
This race is not about one candidate - it is about democrats working together to defeat George W. Bush*.
Edwards has more integrity in his left thumbnail than Bush. He is smart, successful and represented individuals who were hurt by companies.
Kerry has fought for democratic values his whole career.
Clark is an extraordinary man, a leader and truly a gift to the democratic party.
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Fri Jan-23-04 07:32 PM
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Edited on Fri Jan-23-04 07:34 PM by jpgpenn
You mean the way Kerry has called Clark a repuke. Clark was a lifelong registered Independent. He voted Dem and Repub ( like the majority of Americans ). For Kerry to call him a Repuke is a man willing to say and do anything for a vote and might I add , a man that will NO Longer get my vote! This guy makes my skin crawl!
edit; text fix
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Fri Jan-23-04 07:33 PM
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12. Kerry Has Complimented Clark |
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I don't care what Kerry does - he has to live with himself.
I am saying that I don't want Clark to win because he was negative about the other candidates. Frankly, I'd rather see him lose than be negative.
And I am a HUGE clark supporter.
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Fri Jan-23-04 07:38 PM
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17. and we would have to live with a guy |
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that was willing and say anything for a vote. I will not easily go along with this garbage!
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Fri Jan-23-04 09:58 PM
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37. Complimented out of one side of his mouth while |
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smearing him out of the other. Kerry has been playing dirty politics for weeks in NH. I use to respect Kerry. Not anymore.
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Fri Jan-23-04 09:29 PM
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I am soooooooo tired of the media pulling up Clark's records from 20 years ago stating he voted for Nixon and Reagan. What should be focused on with Clark is what he plans to to for the country, presently and in the future. Don't let the media mess with your candidate.
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Fri Jan-23-04 07:30 PM
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5. Talking Points Memo today says |
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Lieberman's campaign sent four anti-Clark communiques last night following the debate. http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/week_2004_01_18.html#002475I think Lieberman is working overtime to undermine Clark--hence, the constant hit pieces on Faux, where he is loved and respected.
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Fri Jan-23-04 07:35 PM
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13. interesting, thanks for posting |
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Joe is really going negative, but no one is talking about it.
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Fri Jan-23-04 07:49 PM
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18. Kerry and Lieberman are cut from the same cloth. |
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This doesn't surprise me in the least!
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Fri Jan-23-04 09:22 PM
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32. I read that also, it appears Lieberman likes the hatchet, 1st Dean... |
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Fri Jan-23-04 07:32 PM
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6. "How can you think about a trial lawyer that has barely any experience..." |
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Does the name Lincoln ring a bell with you, because you just described him. :eyes:
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Fri Jan-23-04 07:32 PM
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9. Does the year 2004 ring a bell for you? |
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Fri Jan-23-04 07:33 PM
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Totally missed the point, of course. :eyes:
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Fri Jan-23-04 07:33 PM
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11. These attacks are unconscionable. |
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As you know, I am for Dean, but the pukes are attacking your guy in ways that cannot be defended.
It is time for us to pull together.
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Fri Jan-23-04 07:36 PM
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15. You better start talking to the Kerry and Lieberman campaign then |
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considering this how they have been running things for months now!
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Fri Jan-23-04 07:35 PM
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14. I think Clark is doing fine. |
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Edited on Fri Jan-23-04 07:47 PM by Kathleen04
If he comes in 2nd in NH that would be great, but 3rd is fine too. All the candidates are going to take their share of the attacks, I think Clark can withstand them. Clark needs to keep doing what he's been doing.
I don't want to get into negative comparisons between him and the other candidates. They're good candidates..
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Fri Jan-23-04 08:03 PM
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20. Wouldn't it be ironic if the media took Clark apart, then blasted |
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the next candidate, until Howard Dean wound up back on top by default?
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Fri Jan-23-04 08:09 PM
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Fri Jan-23-04 08:07 PM
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21. eh, don't blame the other candidates |
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It's the media. Clark has to survive them or it's over.
All we need is third place.
Fourth wouldn't be good, because that would mean an Edwards win before SC. But it still won't mean death.
This is no time for the faint of heart. (to quote my favorite hockey player)
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Fri Jan-23-04 08:10 PM
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23. I wont blmae anyone, I will point out the... |
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creeps that are out there trying to do everything for a vote!
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Fri Jan-23-04 08:14 PM
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24. do you have nay specifics? |
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or is it just a gut feeling? I think they are all doing what ever it takes to win. JMO
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Fri Jan-23-04 08:16 PM
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How about calling Clark a repuke? Is that specific enough?
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Fri Jan-23-04 09:28 PM
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and it stinks, but Dean has been saying it a lot longer. Clark is going to run into this issue, they all are going to use it. Like last night at the debate, but he handled himself well last night and he will continue to do so. The smears and dirty politics I'm worried about are from the RNC, like the way they re-wrote his testimony before congress on IWR. And the media picked up on it and ran....as did Joe Lieberman's campaign.
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Fri Jan-23-04 10:08 PM
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38. Clark is a Republican Lobbyist who worked for Bush |
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How about that one? That's pretty much what the LA Times is reporting came out of the Kerry camp today. The link is around somewhere but I don't have it ready to hand.
Ironically, Dean has a better chance of beating Bush than Kerry does.
There are all these pictures of Kerry and Jane Fonda lying around, from back when John McCain was in a VietCong prison?
Just how suicidal is the Democratic party?
Do you think "liberal" is going to matter when "traitor" is so much more pithy?
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Fri Jan-23-04 08:15 PM
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25. Not sure I get your point, but.. |
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I'd rather he get hit about the head now, when he can afford a third place showing.
It was going to happen sometime. Kerry and Edwards are golden now, they will get it too, eventually.
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Fri Jan-23-04 08:21 PM
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27. Of course he would and will by repukes but |
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What and how do you explain the action of someone like Kerry calling Clark a repuke?
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Fri Jan-23-04 08:59 PM
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30. Last night on Hardball |
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Edited on Fri Jan-23-04 08:59 PM by in_cog_ni_to
Tweety asked a Kerry campaign worker about the lobbying accusation they made about Clark. The guy told Tweety to check out Acxiom and The Stephens Group. THEN, immediately following that...the Acxiom question is asked at the debate. There's some dirty politics aimed at Clark and I really hate letting Kerry get away with it. He will do and say whatever he needs to in order to win. I don't doubt that for a minute. Why should Clark just sit back and take it? THIS is IMPORTANT! He shouldn't be the nice guy when he's being trashed. NH is too important.
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Fri Jan-23-04 08:22 PM
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28. Clark has to be able to handle it. |
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I firmly believe he can. That's one reason I believe he's the best candidate to take on Bush*. The kitchen is going to get a lot hotter later. I'm not sure Bush had more experience than Edwards. Bush had only six years of experience, and only in statewide elected office, when he became pres.
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Fri Jan-23-04 08:50 PM
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29. Has anyone ever heard a good thing about Clark on NPRavda? |
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Edited on Fri Jan-23-04 08:51 PM by billbuckhead
They either ignore him or try to cast him in the least favorable light possible. NPRravda is run by a CIA guy and I think they know he is dangerous to the status quo in the military industrial complex.
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Fri Jan-23-04 09:05 PM
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31. I thought only I noticed.... |
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Edited on Fri Jan-23-04 09:07 PM by MiniMoog
Interesting Buckhead. I've been auditing NPR for the last two days.
Today they covered every candidate, even Lieberman...except Clark. Played ads and profiles on everyone...except Clark. Presented interviews with Dean, Lieberman and Edwards...no Clark. Played portions of stump speechs of Dean, Edwards and Kerry...no Clark.
It's very interesting.
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Fri Jan-23-04 09:50 PM
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Edited on Fri Jan-23-04 09:51 PM by maxanne
that the folks at NPR are commies, bill, because you don't like the way they're covering your candidate?
:eyes:
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Fri Jan-23-04 09:27 PM
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33. I'm surprised Clark's drop isn't greater than it is. |
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Who wouldn't drop after a debate with not one, but TWO questions implying he's a Republican, another accusing him of privacy violations, and the deserter not supported by the facts crap. The other candidates at least got "what would you do" questions that you could give good answers too. How is one supposed to get applause for an answser to "the quote makes it seem like you like Bush" or "you lobbied for privacy violations"?
Ridiculous. Even more ridiculous that some here are using the Brit Hume quote to attack Clark still.
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