DJcairo
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Fri Jan-23-04 08:23 PM
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Kerry revealed his thinking about VP |
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He said, in response to a question that he certainly wouldn't talk about it as it would be presumptuous at this point. But when pushed he said, " we need a president with experience and leadership and a VP who can help us win in Nov." Sounds to me like Kerry-Edwards '04
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Fri Jan-23-04 08:25 PM
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1. I can't imagine Clark for one reason |
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There is no way in hell he would want to preside over the Senate.
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Fri Jan-23-04 08:46 PM
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...too much sitting and not enough to do.
I think it is very possible, however, that Clark might be interested in Kerry as a running-mate, should Clark win the nomination. My wife thinks Kerry is too tall to be a VP, but I don't think Clark cares about that; in the military, they don't judge you on looks, they judge you on what you can do, and Kerry would make an excellent VP for any Democrat.
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Fri Jan-23-04 08:56 PM
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11. I could see Clark as SOS |
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Fri Jan-23-04 09:58 PM
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13. The veep hardly ever presides over the Senate |
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Ninety-five percent of the time a senator, usually a freshman, is stuck with the job of presiding over the Senate. Vice presidents spend their time traveling the world on Air Force Two, making speeches, meeting with the president in the White House, meeting world leaders, meeting with party leaders etc.
I think Clark would love the vice presidency. Plus it would make him the immediate front-runner for the 2012 presidential nomination (when he'll be only 66, younger than Reagan and Dole when they ran).
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Fri Jan-23-04 10:12 PM
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16. there's no way in hell he'd take orders from a "junior officer" |
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Edited on Fri Jan-23-04 10:13 PM by overground1
is what you should have said.
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Fri Jan-23-04 08:28 PM
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2. Dean tried to undercut impact of Clark announcement by saying he was |
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considering Clark for VP and Clark considered it.
This is a similar strategy. Pretend you're considering Edwards and Edwards voters in NH will think, OK, I guess a vote for Kerry is a vote for Edwards for VP and P in 2012.
It's like that pitch to the Kucinich supporter from the Dean people at the caucus: you caucus with us, and we'll elect you as a delegate and you can go to county-level convention, and hobnob, and vote for K if you want to.
Well, there's no guarantee Kerry will pick Edwards, and that Kucinich guy, if he held out, could have pulled together Geps people and gotten a delegate for Kucinich, which would have been more important than a promise of a delegate. Makes sense?
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Fri Jan-23-04 08:30 PM
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3. that's too general to suggest edwards |
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that's a reasonable response that anyone would give when asking about vp.
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Fri Jan-23-04 08:43 PM
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4. True enough but theior comments in the debate were interesting |
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Edwards referred to Kerry and himself as being the only two who stood up against Bush's spending request in Iraq and used the word "we" several times.
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Fri Jan-23-04 08:46 PM
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5. so maybe edwards wants kerry for vp |
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don't get ahead of yourself. edwards is still in the race and he is running for president and sh ould be taken seriously. the southern states are going to come up and edwards is doing very well in those states and kerry is far behind along with kucinich. he has to work hard there to win the nomination. he still has hard work to do in new hampshire.
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Fri Jan-23-04 08:50 PM
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was extremely supportive after Dean misrepresented Edwards position on the Iraq War way back in June. Edwards was on the floor of the Senate and he said "He lied, He just got up there and lied" and Kerry was seen to put and arm around Edwards shoulder telling him not to be bothered by it, and that his record would be more than adequate to prove his position, and then Dean issued and written apology to Edwards. As a matter of fact, neither Edwards or Kerry have made any sort of negative comments about each other, so I suspect that Edwards will not be leaving Washington when his term in the Senate is finished if he is not the nominee.
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Fri Jan-23-04 08:54 PM
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9. I suspect that both will be on the ticket. |
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The question of which way, is what we don't know. I support Edwards, but I do not expect him to win NH. He really doesn't have to; a 2nd place there for him would be gravy, but he has other and better expectations down the road.
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Fri Jan-23-04 08:50 PM
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7. Correction: Said he must view V.P. as qualified to be President and |
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Edited on Fri Jan-23-04 08:57 PM by Raya
be able to help win. IMHO Kerry does not believe Edwards is prepared to be President.
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Fri Jan-23-04 09:00 PM
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12. He did say that - but I don't ever remember him saying |
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that Edwards is not prepared to be president.
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Fri Jan-23-04 08:56 PM
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10. Kerry~Edwards 2004 BAM IN YA FACE |
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Fri Jan-23-04 10:10 PM
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14. I recall Dean saying... |
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...in a previous debate, "I misquoted Senator Edwards, and I wrote him a letter of apology and I'd like to apologize again here tonight." Then in Thursday's debate when John Edwards said, "Thiis isn't about us," Dean said, "John Edwards is absolutely right," and smiles were exchanged.
I think everybody wants Edwards to consent to be their VP, or to be his VP. I'm looking for Dean/Edwards, Edwards/Dean in ya face BAM 2004!
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Fri Jan-23-04 10:10 PM
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15. Dean won't be selecting any running mates this year |
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Fri Jan-23-04 10:29 PM
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17. didn't Kerry say something about choosing a VP |
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from the south in the last Iowa debate?
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Fri Jan-23-04 10:43 PM
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Think about it. Solid Union support. Solid Dem creds. and Missouri's got 11 electorals. I like it.
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Fri Jan-23-04 10:49 PM
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19. did anyone see the snl about this |
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where all the dem canidates were meeting at edwards's house, and he was sucking up really bad to all of them. joke being he was in the race to get the vp
i forget who it is, but they got one guy who does a really good dean.
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Fri Jan-23-04 10:59 PM
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20. JE wouldn't help JK win any states, Graham would in the most important 1 |
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Fri Jan-23-04 11:04 PM
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If not VP, then state. I'd put money and both him and Kerrey being in a Kerry admin.
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