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DJcairo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 08:56 PM
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Kerry leads in new national poll
http://pollingreport.com/wh04dem.htm

Kerry 29 (7)
Howard Dean 17 (20)
John Edwards 13 (4)
Wesley Clark 11 (13)


Look at Kerry's jump. J-E-S-U-S
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 08:57 PM
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1. I just watched him live on C-Span
he's got everything it takes to win our nomination and remove the evil empire.
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DJcairo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 09:00 PM
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4. I agree, he was amazing
I was excited by all the Repubs who said they would vote for him. I hope people check out this town hall meeting online.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 08:59 PM
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2. It's FOX, but it's still the first poll that pust Edwards in third...
... behind Clark.

The NH Polls seem laughably viable to me. Kerry looks like a solid 1st, but the rest of the field seems wide open to me, in New Hampshire, win, place, and show actually mean something.

Second place only counts in horseshoes, hand grenades, and New Hampshire...
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 09:10 PM
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10. No No No. "Close" only counts in horseshoes, hand grenades, and
H-Bombs :nuke: remember it's 3 H's.
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SeveneightyWhoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 09:00 PM
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3. Ouch, Clark's dropping.
Doesn't look good!
And Kerry, WOW, what an amazing jump. Its incredible what a relatively minor win can do for one's campaign..
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frustrated_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 09:02 PM
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5. I could cry
but kudos to Kerry.

Let's smash this establishment the media and rightwing have established.

I'll support Kerry if it comes to it, but if he lets me down, I am going to be SO pissed. I really am wavering here, I'm travelling to Finland later this year for the European Society of Gene Therapy meeting, partly for science, mostly to contact euro scientists and establish a rabbit hole.

Our nation needs to be a better place. Any of our candidates can do it. But if they insist on doing it, they better damned well do it right.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 09:20 PM
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14. Take heart. Kerry's all for smashing the evil doers
and Kerry's got a lot of heart with which to do it.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 12:24 AM
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27. Kerry-Clark....that's the ticket!
Good on so many levels.

Pentagon reform, international affairs, a real liberal agenda, real leadership, a real chance to finish the Republican "War on Terror".

Bullet-proof, so to speak.
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MrSoundAndVision Donating Member (879 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 09:05 PM
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6. Is it any suprise?
The media has been on a pro-Kerry campaign for the last week. It's been running these human interest stories asking ordinary citizens, of their choice naturally, why they don't like Howard Dean or do like John Kerry. Is it a suprise?

You fellows are watching the degradation of our democracy right now. The media has chosen, so you just watch in awe. It's sick.

One of the many things we need to do to salvage this democracy is destroy the media monopolies. Kucinich for President.
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Raya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 09:11 PM
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11. "The Media" did everything it could to kill Kerry short of a bullet.
Kerry overcame the media
Kerry overcame the endorsers
Kerry overcame 1 year of Dean slams
Kerry overcame secret deals with CMB and kucinich

What more do you want?
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cid Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 10:50 PM
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21. I want somebody who had the cajones to call bush out on all the
bull he has pushed thru congress, I dont want someone who voted for said bull and basically laid down for the republicans. edwards, kerry, lieberman, will just be the same old crap we deal with now. Clark or dean is the only way anything is going to change. Those two are the only two that ever stood up to this administration. The others didnt do jack until these two spent months calling Bush out on his bad policies. Well they didnt do anything except give in and vote yes on the aforesaid bad policies. Two years ago I was all for Kerry running for pres. I even wrote him and told him I hoped he ran. Then after two years of watchin the current dems in the senate turn into noodles with no spine...why vote for more of the same? Just my opinion, flame me if you must.
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 09:32 PM
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15. I'm for ABB
But today on 17 going into Santa Cruz, CA, I saw a poster for Kucinich beside the road. Your candidate is a good man.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 09:06 PM
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7. looks like an Iowa bounce for Kerry and Edwards
my guy lost 2, but I'm not losing my faith. Go Wes!
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MrSoundAndVision Donating Member (879 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 09:08 PM
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8. The lesson here is this
The media is getting dangerous.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 09:10 PM
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9. POLLS SUCK
whether my candidate leads or is behind, they suck. it's ok to look at them at times but some people get too excited about them. too dependent on them.
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boxster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 09:14 PM
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12. It may be Fox, but Holy Cow!
Ok, so maybe Iowa is a little more important than we've given it credit for!

;)
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 09:16 PM
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13. Only one thing to say:
SUCH
UNDERSTANDABLY
CHEERING
KNOWLEDGE
OUT OF
NEW HAMPSHIRE
IS
TERRIFIC
!
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boxster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 10:26 PM
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16. Gee, how clever.
:eyes:
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 10:43 PM
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18. Huh?
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boxster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 10:46 PM
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19. Oh, come on. Like you don't know....
:crazy:
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 10:48 PM
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20. I'm still in the dark
???
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boxster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 10:53 PM
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22. Are you serious?
While I still don't believe that you weren't already aware of this and I think you may be being intentionally obtuse, I'll tell you anyway.

Look at the first letter in each line of your post.

What's that spell?
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 11:01 PM
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24. You tell me...
I'm barely literate
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 11:04 PM
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25. What's your point?
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boxster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 11:28 AM
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31. Uh, that would be sarcasm.
That seemed pretty obvious.

"Gee, how clever." Sounds sarcastic to me. It was a sarcastic response, mostly meant in jest, to mitchum's little poem indirectly telling people to "Suck on it!"
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 11:36 AM
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32. Holy fuck, I must be a savant!
That wasn't my intention at all. Wow.
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boxster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 01:14 PM
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33. Sorry for the sarcasm in my previous responses. I honestly thought
that you knew that was there and just wanted me to point it out.

What clued me in was the exclamation point at the end. That's pretty standard in word puzzles, of which I am quite fond.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 12:37 AM
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28. neener-neener-neener
There, don't you feel better now?

BTW, mitchum, I donated to Dean's campaign 3X. I respect the guy and appreciate what he's done to sharpen the debate and help set the tone/issues in this campaign to unseat the unelected fraud.

If he wins the nomination, I'll happily support him. But I believe that Kerry's got the record, the agenda, and the support of more voters, in and out of the Democratic Party to beat Bush.

But the campaign's far from finished...may the best candidate win.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 01:10 AM
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30. Hey, I'm ABB also...
unlike some people
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adamrsilva Donating Member (636 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 10:38 PM
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17. Dean had numbers like that once
then the media killed him. What will happen when they turn to Kerry?
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 11:06 PM
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26. Too bad Dean's numbers were so high when no election was happening.


I guess they didn't do him much good.



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arewethereyet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 10:59 PM
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23. sort of funny how people celebrated a point or two
this sort of thing was coming all along and will probably jump again after NH and then again after 2/3/04
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 12:49 AM
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29. Amazing what a difference a week makes.
Really looks like John picked up all of the undecideds that commited this past week and pealed a couple of % from everyone else in the field.

I never saw it coming, but I really am glad that his campaign is catching on. Of course, it's possible that the voter's preferences remain fluid and the shifting can continue....or it's also possible that people are beginning to finally firm up their preferences.
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