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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 10:26 PM
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I dare everyone to watch this entire video clip of Dean.
Edited on Fri Jan-23-04 10:28 PM by liberalnurse
If Dean supporters were disenchanted about Iowa and were taken back by the media hype of the "screeching" then take a moment to see the whole story.


http://biology.kenyon.edu/slonc/dean/caucusnight.mov

It may take less than a minute for DSL to download. Be patient.


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NewHampster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 10:28 PM
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1. another over here
http://www.idiomstudio.com/ Incredble what those people witnessed

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boxster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 10:29 PM
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2. Warning, posters. It's a 35MB file, so obviously not 56K friendly.
And, no, I didn't actually watch it. I was curious as to the length since the poster said virtually nothing about it.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 10:32 PM
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4. It was shared with me by an Ohio Dean supporter.
I don't know anything about the technical data that was needed. Thank you for providing your expertise. You help is appreciated.
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boxster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 10:33 PM
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6. Just so you know, those posters with dial-up, 56K access would need
at least a couple of hours to download this file.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 10:35 PM
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7. Feel free to try the other option posted.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 10:53 PM
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10. If folks are still using a 486......
You may be incorrect with your calculations boxster.
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boxster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 11:02 PM
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15. Well, considering that I own a tech. support company, I am pretty
confident that my calculations are correct.

A 56k modem is limited to 53.3k per Federal regulations. This speed is completely independent of the type, speed, etc., of the computer.

Many, many rural areas still have dial-up connections and nothing else.

53.3k = approximately 6.7Kbytes / sec.

Your file is 34.7 MBbytes.

34.7 MBytes / 6.7 Kbytes/sec = roughly 5400 seconds.

5400 seconds = 90 minutes.

That is best-case scenario, assuming that the computer can use 100% of the available bandwidth for the entire 90 minutes.

Any questions?
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 10:55 PM
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11. I think folks can judge for themselves.
Your warnings remind me of something from cable news MSNBC.....or something. Relax, sit back and enjoy seeing the truth for a change. It shall set all free.
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boxster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 10:31 PM
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3. It will certainly take more than a minute via DSL.
Edited on Fri Jan-23-04 10:33 PM by boxster
Try more like 15-20 minutes via standard (256 Kbps) DSL.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 10:33 PM
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5. I have road runner and only 128 megs ram.....
I am not sure of the difference.
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bitchkitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 11:08 PM
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17. What are you so worried about? n/t
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boxster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 11:44 PM
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24. Many posters have recently complained about the large pictures that
people use in their DU signatures. If they're having problems with pictures loading, they certainly don't want to try to download a 35MB file.

Just showing a little consideration. Sorry I bothered.

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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 10:38 PM
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8. I'm watching it now...
Edited on Fri Jan-23-04 10:41 PM by dionysus
i must say up front that the bit they played over and over didn't bother me anyways...


refuted dean basher lie #1 ; less than 60 seconds into the speech, he thanks the people of iowa, something he was accused of NOT doing by several die hard bashers.... repeatedly QUOTE "this is a wonderful state, with wonderfull, wonderfull people"

refuted dean basher lie #2 ; Dean didn't congradulate Kerry and Edwards
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 10:42 PM
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9. Powerful.
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VTMechEngr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 10:55 PM
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12. Took a minute and 46 seconds on a T-1
342KB/sec. It will take about 5 minutes on DSL.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 10:57 PM
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13. Thank you for such sincere and accuate data.
It is rare these days.....
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NewHampster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 11:02 PM
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14. Lib, my wifey the Gas passer for Dean thanks you
Edited on Fri Jan-23-04 11:03 PM by NewHampster
Nurse anesth... working like crazy for Dean, as am I.

Also, the vid link does have a 56k version. ed. actually thats the other version i posted
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boxster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 11:08 PM
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16. Sorry to disagree, but on a standard (256k) DSL, it will take longer
thank 5 minutes.

34.7MB file.

256k = 32K/sec

34.7MB / 32K/sec = roughly 1100 seconds. About 18 minutes.

Obviously, there are faster DSL speeds, 512K and so on. It took me 1:39 to download it on cable, at 359K/sec, roughly 11 times as fast as a standard DSL. 11 x 1:39 = roughly 18 minutes.
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VTMechEngr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 02:21 AM
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25. I was thinking a higher rate of DSL.
Edited on Sat Jan-24-04 02:22 AM by VTMechEngr
Forgot that many people live with 256 bit downloads and stuff. Thats inhumane to me, but many think its fast enough.
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frustrated_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 11:09 PM
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18. I'm honestly at the point
whenever I see his face or hear his words there are tears on my face. I am so incredibly desperate for a better America, and I know he could achieve it. And I'm struck with this sense of desperation, this need for it to happen, and worry it won't and it's like watching, waiting for a train wreck. I feel helpless, all I can do is try and talk with co-workers about all the positive things he's done for people, but a single media sound byte seems to overwhelm that.

I deeply cannot remember ever feeling so hopeful and desperate about anything like the Dean candidacy since very, very early childhood.

I trust this man to make things better, for all of us, hurting no one in the process. He and his wife have the potential to drastically reshape the face of America for the better. It's been a long time since I felt so hopeful and so afraid at the same time.

I hate this, and I hope he wins. I'll support the nominee, never-the-less, but, god, I hope he leads us out of this dark age we've endured.
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NewHampster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 11:19 PM
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21. The Last time I felt this kind I passion I was 13
and that was for John, Paul, George and Ringo.

No politician since JFK has stirred the emotions of both sides so hard.

If you know anyone in NH Call them. If you are within a days drive, get here.

We need a million people to tell my neighbors what is right.
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lurk_no_more Donating Member (582 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 11:17 PM
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19. I watched it 4 times
Once more will not make it any better!


And then there were none!
” JAFO”

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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 11:18 PM
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20. Watch a whole video of Dean?Sorry, I just ate and I'd like to keep it down
I'll have to pass up your dare, lol
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foo_bar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 11:23 PM
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22. it's actually a good speech
although it was clearly intended to be the victory speech.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 11:24 PM
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23. Blinders make everything easy.
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