Kerry,Fritz Hollings and Wes Clark

[southern democrat]

Today I was quite distrubed with retorhic coming from the Kerry campaign.It alarms me when the Democratic front runner defends Bush on the AWOL issue.Kerry stated that Micheal Moore's comments were over the top.Just before stating this,Fritz Hollings was stumping for Kerry,saying nothing negitive about Bush.Choosing instead to attack Cheney,saying that Cheney was to the Republican party,what Jesse Jackson was to the Democratic party.Both taking everything they can from their parties.


Insulting Jesse Jackson by associating him with Cheney is shameless.John Kerry should denounce this,but he has not, instead he chooses to attack Wes Clark and Micheal Moore.Pandering to a future potential southern voting block ,I guess John Kerry chooses to keep silent.This is wrong,when the gop attacks he pilies on.But when a fellow Democrat is attacked by a southern conservetive alleged Democrat Kerry is silent.


John Kerry, 1 Zell Miller in this party is 1 too many.You will not get my vote in the primary,and should you recieve the nomination I will write-in either Wes Clark or John Edwards for president.

[Jack_Dawson]

1. AWOL is TRUE!!! Why is everyone wimping out?

Arrrrrrghhhhhhhhhh

:nuke:

[southern democrat]

5. Because there the same bunch that caved into shrub

over the war.And mostly every thing else for that matter.We must nominate a true democrat.One who will confront Bush not hold his hand,while America gets screwed.

[Torgo4]

25. AWOL is Accurate--Deserter isn't.

But: Granting Moore prosaic license, "General against the deserter" is a quick quip with two single descriptors.
AWOL is an acronym for Absence Without Offical Leave. General against the "AWOL Guy," doesn't have the same zing.

'Course, just take a page from my response to right-wing weasel Jeff Jacoby.

tedious night, with a bit of humor
By Jeff Jacoby, 1/23/2004
Clark was awful -- whiny and defensive and acting nothing at all like a former four-star general. But at one juncture, he was worse than awful -- he was positively appalling.
Refusing to repudiate Michael Moore's slanderous description of George W. Bush as a "deserter" was a colossal political blunder.

Well Jeff:
Let's talk appalling.
Pushing this issue will be a colossal blunder for the conservative media like yourself. It may bring up unanswered and appalling questions about George W Bush's National Guard service such as:
1. How'd George W get a commission with NO Officer training (OT)? Ans: Daddy bought him one.
2. How did Bush get into flight school, leaping over better qualified
personnel, after scoring slightly above brain-dead on his flight aptitude test? Ans: Daddy.
3. Why was Bush grounded after barely learning to fly F-102s. Ans: Didn't complete a mandatory physical. Follow up question: Why not?
4. Where was Bush during that 12-month+ absence from his assigned duty in the Alabama National Guard. An absence noted by his evaluation report and his Commanding officer? Ans: So-called liberal media gave him a pass on this.
5. Failing to report for over 30 days during wartime is the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) definition of desertion. Why was Bush never pursued? Ans: Same reason OJ got away; rich man's justice!
6. What did fighter-pilot tough-talking President Bush do when confronted by the worst foreign attack on US soil since the War of 1812? Ans: He scrambled onto Air Force One and scurried away from hijackers armed with box-cutters!
7. How can Bush dare to dress up in a flight suit when his last
flight-related activity was getting grounded? Ans: You tell me why this shameless prancing was tolerated by the so-called liberal media!

Feel free to compare George W Bush's record, or lack of it, with General Clark's massive Officer Records Brief (ORB), his four stars, his Silver Star from the war George W. Bush ducked; the list is endless!
Yeah---Let's compare Bush's appalling record !!!

[blm]

2. I didn't hear anything like that. Do you have a link?

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[southern democrat]

8. It was said,I heard it on ABC radio news cast mid-day ,today.

[xray s]

9. Check NPR

They played the Hollings comments about Cheney and Jesse Jackson tonight. I was pretty shocked when I heard them. The post here is pretty acurate on the comments.

I was hoping it would pass, but now I guess it will be Kerry's turn in the barrel.

[La_Serpiente]

3. yes

do you have a link?

[lcordero]

4. He also said that Bush* is a "good man"

When it came to election 2000 he told us to "get over it".
I feel that these are hints to bigger problems.

[George_Bonanza]

12. Kerry was one of the hardest fighters for Gore, and about Bush...

Even Mr. Anti-Bush, Howard Dean, has said good things about Bush as well, personal things that is. He also expressed admiration for H.W. Bush. Personally, I do not see a problem when Kerry attacks Bush's policies and presidential record, while saying that non-politically, Bush is probably a good man who's simply a crappy president and leader.

[lcordero]

14. Howard Dean is the anti-bush? I don't think so

Howard Dean gave the illegal war legitimacy by saying that he would have supported the Biden-Lugar. He gave Bush, all of the lies, and deception legitimacy.
He also expressed admiration for H.W. Bush.

I don't want anything to do with anybody that "admires" another person that helped instigate a war.

Bush is the one person that has done the most damage to the United States in all of it's history.

Does a good man lie about his dealings to the SEC?

Does a good man force a whole nation into poverty?

Does a good man say "I feel good!!!" right before he is going to start a war that is going to kill thousands of people?

Does a good man send 500 service members to die and over 9,000 maimed to fight an illegal, fraudulent, murdering, looting, and racist war?

How hard has he really fought the Bushes? Are any of the Bushes in prison? Have any of the Bushes been escorted to the gallows?

And as far as anybody fighting for Gore, did anybody speak out against Bush on the Senate floor? The NAACP claims that they asked every single Senator to speak on their behalf on the Senate floor in regards to the Presidential election in 2000. Nobody still has spoken.

[LiberalBushFan]

6. If Dean had fought in Vietnam like Kerry

he would not have wimped out on the AWOL charge.
That's why I'm starting to like Dean more and still love Clark.

[windansea]

7. mushy milquetoast

SOS..........:puke:

[11cents]

10. The comment about Jackson really is shocking

I'm not a particular fan of Jesse Jackson's, but he's been more loyal to the party than many of these congressional pukes, and he works for GOTV every election cycle. Kerry needs an upside-the-head smacking if he doesn't disassociate himself from it. The typical kiss-the-hem-of-the-media-whores cave-in on Michael Moore/AWOL is horrribly dispiriting too. Kerry was my second choice, but I'm starting to feel that I didn't know enough about him.

[Loren645]

11. I'm not a fan of JJ *Sr* either, but to compare him w Darth Vadar?

Boy oh boy, talk about over the top.

[mopinko]

13. my pretty strong recollection

of the npr story i heard tonight. "dick cheney is the jesse jackson of the republican party, saying give us everything, it's our turn"
kerry need to repudiate this. but in all fairness, fritz sounded like he was either a little crocked, or he is getting up there and needs to hand over the mic. he was slurring his words, for sure.
i do not like kerry, but i am not sure how responsible he is for this.

[Toucano]

15. Oh, what sweet irony!

Kerry has to repudiate Fritz.

To criticize Clark for not repudiating a supporter who says the truth (Bush AWOL), while embracing your own supporter who says lies about one of the most accomplished, never-elected members of the party is too much irony for the real world.

Jesse, if you're out there, this might be a good time to whip out that Clark endorsement you've been holding back on.

It may not help in NH, but will make the victory effing solid in SC!

[mopinko]

17. ha, ha, ha, jj for clark

ya gotta be kidding.

[Loren645]

16. And now Kerry followers want us to defend him against the mean ol' RNC?

Don' think so.
He's alienating me damn fast.

[jpgpenn]

18. Kerry will say and do anything for a vote!

:puke:

[wyldwolf]

19. And I will thank you for your part in electing Bush for a second term...

..should that come to pass.

[jpgpenn]

20. don't blame the poster!

Contact the Kerry campaign and ask them why they would go so low against a fellow Dem? That is where you should put your energy.

[wyldwolf]

22. nope! Politics is politics. This whole primary season has been dirty...

...for the most part - not JUST Kerry. And they always are.

The most important thing is voting for the nom to unseat Bush.

[kentuck]

21. Considering that Jesse Jackson is also from SC..???

I don't know how smart that was??

[KittyWampus]

23. Kerry Needs To Renounce Hollings' Endorsement

or at the very least his rhetoric.

[bigtree]

24. Fritz Holling's rhetoric.

"I can tell you this categorically, we've got the weakest president and weakest government in the history of my 50 years of public service. I say weak president in that the poor boy campaigns all the time and pays no attention to what's going on in the Congress. Karl Rove tells him to do this or do that or whatever it is, but he's out campaigning. And I really don't think our friend Mark Sanford likes the job. As a result the state and the country – your state, my state, our country – is headed in the wrong direction with respect to our finances."

see Fritz Holling's statement on his senate web site:
http://www.hollings.senate.gov/~hollings/statements/2003804B32.html

[KittyWampus]

26. What Does This Have To Do With His Slur Against Jackson?

why are you posting an irrelevant comment?