Dean continues slide post-Sawyer (Boston Globe 2 day track)

[DJcairo]

Boston Globe/WBZ-TV N.H. Democratic primary
(Sample size = 400 likely voters, +/-5%)

1/24/2004 For whom are you likely to vote in the primary? Candidate Now Wed/Thur Tues/Wed Mon/Tue Sun/Mon Sat/Sun Fri/Sat

Kerry 35 34 31 27 20 14 13

Dean 15 19 21 24 28 31 30

Clark 15 14 16 17 21 23 25

Edwards 12 11 11 9 8 9 7

Lieberman 5 3 4 4 3 6 7

Kucinich 1 1 1 <1 1 1 1

Sharpton <1 <1 <1 <1 1 <1 <1

Undecided 18 17 16 16 14 13 12


Among those who have decided for whom to vote in the past week: Candidate Now Wed/Thur Tues/Wed Mon/Tues Sun/Mon Sat/Sun Fri/Sat

Kerry 48 53 48 41 27 17 15

Edwards 21 18 11 12 11 10 8

Clark 17 16 27 26 31 38 39

Dean 10 13 13 18 22 22 20
Favorable/Unfavorable Candidate Now Wed/Thur Tues/Wed Mon/Tues Sun/Mon Sat/Sun Fri/Sat

Kerry 76/12 73/11 69/14 68/14 62/16 57/20 58/21

Edwards 59/15 58/12 58/11 57/13 55/13 51/14 51/14

Clark 55/18 56/15 58/15 64/14 62/14 64/13 69/9

Dean 45/35 44/34 49/31 56/25 60/22 61/20 63/20

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/polls/tracking_poll/

[mistertrickster]

1. Like Chomsky says, it's the ILLUSION of choice the process gives us.

The choices are being made every time a pundit says the word "angry" and hits the button to play that speech one . . . more . . . time.

[Woodstock]

2. Yep!

You can almost see the strings as they pull them.

[krkaufman]

3. Yeppers!

> Like Chomsky says....

Yep, the filters are in place and working perfectly.

[MMT]

21. So why not ignore the filters, cut the strings, and vote Kucinich?

He's definitely Chomsky's choice. Chomsky has virtually endorsed him and has said that if we nominate Dennis, he will break his lifelong rule and endorse him formally, too.

Why not conclusively reject being manipulated?

[JohnOneillsMemory]

4. Chomsky knows it. Look up David Lakoff, too. Another linguist.

He talks about 'framing' issues with the vocabulary used.

I think that all the du-ers who freaked out when they watched Dean's exhuberance in Iowa had already internalized the media's need for a visual hook to cook up a story and helped validate these non-stories.

You must be the revolution you crave.

[AP]

5. What about the illusion of choice all last year when they were getting

people upset about the war, and then telling millions of people that Dean was the anti-war candidate, and then telling us where to find his website and donate?

What kind of illusion of choice was that?

And now Dean says he was never really the anti-war candidate?

Where's the illusion?

[otohara]

6. This Is Heartbreaking

I watched the whole tape of the speech - Networks muted all the crowd noises, making Dean sound loud and alone.

[buckeye1]

10. Whats Chomsky?

Why would i listen to him. Has he something to say or is he a burn out loser. has he ever done anything? i dont like republicans.

[tkmorris]

13. Listen to him?

You need not if you so choose but you could definately learn something from him if you were inclined to.

You might try Google. Fantastic tool. I prefer AlltheWeb but let's keep it simple. The name is Noam Chomsky. Be well and welcome to DU.

[arcos]

14. did you know AlltheWeb charges for inclusion?

I know a lot of people have issues with Google and criticize it. But in most other search engines you have to PAY to be included in a meaningful position, although most don't say it loudly...

[buckeye1]

12. smart politicos.

They never wallow in failure. Its a poor workman that blames the tools.
Dean had the BIG Mo(remember here)and money and 3500 orangeheads and great media(how many cover stories on national news mags)and all those great endorsements
Dean is not out by any means but you need to get a better idea.
if you Moon the voters your ass will be kicked.

[Namvet04]

7. Clark is in a major free fall - 10 points

Do you think he will even beat Joe?

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[Guaranteed]

9. It was only last night (Friday night) that most people had actually heard

about the debate, the Sawyer interview, and the Top Ten list.

We're gonna have to wait until Sunday, folks, to see legitimate results. Sunday.

Hell, we just started seeing the real results of the Iowa Caucus on Thursday.

[TexasPatriot]

11. well, it cant get a lot worse

though his firm support is only half his voting preference... which is WAY lower than i would have thought it would be (and honestly, i think there are more firm Dean supporters than that). I dont think we have to wait to Sunday to see what the results are likely to be - instead look at what Dean is doing re pulling ads and moving resources into NH to try to shore it up. I think the internal polling must still be bad.

On the plus side - if they're talking about bringing Judy in to do an ad, they must have gotten a positive response from her. Whether they can find a way to transplant her positives into positives for the other doctor dean remains to be seen.

[drfemoe]

15. Yep

The sooner Dean resigns from the campaign the better.

Let the media find some other ratings puller. He's given enough.

[Guaranteed]

16. You expect him to resign before Sharpton, Lieberman, and Kucinich?

Who do you think you're kidding?

[drfemoe]

17. Sharpton is entertaining

He'll draw some viewers. I'm tired of the Howard Dean Media Circus.

He deserves better.

I fully expect some ratings will drop on Democratic Primary coverage events. The media can consolidate. Build a monopoly. Their checkbooks will recover in the long term.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

18. Sharpton and Lieberman Are There To Provide Comic Relief...

DK is the lone conviction politician in the race....

[drfemoe]

19. Is that why Edwards told all his delegates to go to the DK group?

nt

[DemocratSinceBirth]

20. I Didn't Lump DK with John Edwards Cuz I Thought We Were Discussing

Candidates With No Chance Of Winning...

The only candidates with a plausible chance of winnning the nomination are Kerry, Edwards, and Clark, and probably in that order....