Cloture question WRT to Senate rule changes

[satireV]

If my memory serves me well, the US Senate last changed it's cloture rules in 1975 from 2/3 majority to super majority or 60 votes.

Correct me if I am wrong here.

If the Senate moves to change the cloture rules again to 51 votes, does the current cloture rule apply?

IOW, can the minority use cloture rules to try and stop changes to the cloture rules? If the minority tries to filibuster the cloture changes, won,t it require 60 votes to stop debate on changing cloture?

My mind is foggy, but IIRC in 1975 there was a cloture vote before they changed the rule.

satireV

[Nite Owl]

1. This is how it is supposed to happen

http://www.pfaw.org/pfaw/general/default.aspx?oId=18761

An erroneous and unprecedented point of order raised by a Senator, presumably Senator Frist, that the current 60-vote threshold to invoke cloture (end a filibuster) on a nomination is illegitimate (or “unconstitutional”), or that further debate on a nomination at some arbitrary point is “dilatory,” even though cloture has not been invoked as provided in the Senate Rules.

A ruling by the Chair, likely Vice President Cheney, that sustains the point of order even though it contradicts the Rules and precedents of the Senate and the advice of the Senate Parliamentarian.

An appeal of the ruling by a member of the Senate who objects to the ruling as contrary to the Rules and precedents of the Senate.

A nondebatable motion to table the appeal offered by Senator Frist which, if adopted by the Senate, ratifies the illegitimate ruling of the chair and completes the detonation of the nuclear option and the elimination of the 60-vote requirement for ending debate on judicial nominations. If the Senate is split 50-50 on the motion, Vice President Cheney will vote to break the tie and sustain his own ruling.

[satireV]

2. Is that how they did it in 1975? n/t

[Nite Owl]

3. Don't know for sure

but doubt it. This seems to be a new way that they figured to get around it altogether. Then it was a lose of 7 votes from 67 to 60 not a total overturn of the concept. This time it actually is giving the
WH control of the Senate.