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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:35 AM
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Pelosi can't be trusted when it come to Israel

http://www.counterpunch.com/frank05312005.html


Israel Comes First
Pelosi at AIPAC


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Despite the fact that AIPAC was recently busted for spying on the United States, Pelosi, along with many other top bureaucrats from Washington, gushed effusions of praise on the foreign power. "There are those who contend that the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is all about Israel's occupation of the West Bank and Gaza," Pelosi said as she rallied AIPAC loyalists. "This is absolute nonsense. In truth, the history of the conflict is not over occupation, and never has been: it is over the fundamental right of Israel to exist."

Apparently Pelosi has never asked a Palestinian what they think of Israel's brutality. Not that she hasn't witnessed the occupation first hand; Pelosi is just not concerned in the least with the Palestinian resistance.

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"One thing, however is unchanged," Pelosi added. "America's commitment to the safety and security of the State of Israel is unwavering. America and Israel share an unbreakable bond: in peace and war; and in prosperity and in hardship."

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"The greatest threat to Israel's right to exist, with the prospect of devastating violence, now comes from Iran. For too long, leaders of both political parties in the United States have not done nearly enough to confront the Russians and the Chinese, who have supplied Iran as it has plowed ahead with its nuclear and missile technology."
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looks like Pelosi is hot to attack Iran for Israel

"America and Israel share an unbreakable bond:..."

there is no such thing as an unbreakable political bond

Pelosi is not america's friend.
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forgethell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:39 AM
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1. A little less brutality
on the part of the Palestinians would pay them dividends.
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 12:27 PM
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4. brutality is a two way street
nt
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forgethell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 12:31 PM
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5. What is the
Palestinian position on the continued existence of Israel as Jewish state? Until this issue is resolved they will continue to have to suffer the consequences of their own blood thirstiness.
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CWebster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 01:51 PM
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8. 'Tain't the Palestinians expropriating
Israeli territory.

People are ignorant on this subject more than any other because of the suppression of the truth and politicians of all stripes marching in step. It is really the greatest outrage and national shame.
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forgethell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 03:15 PM
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14. The Palestinians
lost there territories during unprovoked wars on Israel. In fact, it wasn't the Palestinians who lost it, but the Jordanians.

Are the Palestinians willing to let the Israelis continue to exist as a Jewish state? Are they willing to give up their laughable "right of return" in exchange for a territory of their own, and peace? Or are they anxious for a fight to the death with Israel? Seems to me the latter.

You are correct, however. Brutality is a two way street. So as long as they brutalize innocent Israeli women and children, the Palestinians cannot be expected to be left in peace. Someone has to stop the "cycle of violence". Why not the Palestinians? They have the most to gain.

Remember: Israel is not trying to destroy the Palestinians. The same cannot be said for the Palestinian side about the Israelis.
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pie Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:55 AM
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2. Sad to see her sucking up to pure evil like that
All the more sickening because she knows better
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:59 AM
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3. Why is the reason for her bias towards AIPAC?
Edited on Tue May-31-05 11:59 AM by shance
n/t
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Idioteque Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 01:04 PM
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6. $$$$$$$ n/t
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CWebster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 01:47 PM
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7. Money makes the world go round
and AIPAC destroys--or does it's damnist to destroy, the political careers of anyone not pandering to the Israeli Right.
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Gyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 02:06 PM
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9. They've been in violation of the Geneva Convention for decades.
They use tanks armed with flechettes on civilians gathering to talk on their own streets,and they kill paraplegics in wheelchairs with hellfire missles launched from apache helecopters. They kill children routinely who express their hatred by throwing rocks at Israeli tanks. They humiliate and degrade the occupied at every opportunity. They destroy orchards clearly on Palestinian land with impunity. They have ALL the power, the Palestinians have none. They routinely abuse their power in the most extreme ways, and are arrogant about it. For the record, there are 10 Palestinians killed for every Israeli killed in the occupied territories. In short, as stewards of a people they choose to occupy, they suck badly.

Pelosi is clearly an Israel whore, like the rest of the bushevicks. But as a whore she is useful in other regards.

Gyre



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CityDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 02:44 PM
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10. Same for Lieberman
He should be a member of the Israeli Knesset.
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CWebster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 02:45 PM
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11. Same for HClinton
despite the adoring prattle.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 02:51 PM
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12. Yeah...we've known about those two. This is suprising, to me, about Pelosi
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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 07:53 PM
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18. By the same argument
Edited on Tue May-31-05 07:54 PM by Coastie for Truth
Jennifer Granholm, Debbie Stabenow, Carl Levin, Bart Stupak, Dale Kildee, Sander Levin, Carolyn Kilpatrick, John Conyers, John Dingell, and yes, David Bonior -- should be part of the Saudi Royal family -- none of them have ever voted to increase CAFE - instead they have consistently voted to make us ever more dependent on Saudi Oil.

Excuse for Dingell - his wife is a GM VP

Excuse for Conyers - he is a big time Ford Dealer

Excuse for David Bonior - he was a UAW bureaucrat.

Michigan is a one party state: Not Dem, Not Repub--
"GMUAWFORDUAWCHRYSLERUAW"
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hector459 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 03:11 PM
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13. Most of Congress can't be trusted when it comes to Israel. That's why
we need to work to unseat as many as possible. We want Congress to put America first...and that means the millions of ordinary working class citizens who suffer the most from our unbalanced foreign policies all the way around.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 03:16 PM
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15. Can we start with the Republicans?
Once they're all gone, then we can work on the Democrats.
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Cynot Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 03:25 PM
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16. We won't ever win a national election if we don't support Israel.
That's just a reality. You can stand on principle and lose forever, or you can "compromise" your principles on this one issue so that the national Democratic Party can win elections and help to save this country. There are so many other issues besides Israel where the party shines.
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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 07:04 PM
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17. So, you support APIPAC
and DeLay and Cornyn and Kay Bailey Hutchinson? And oil industry GOP lawyer John O'Neill (founder of Swift Boat Veterans for Truth).

APIPAC is the "American Petroleum Institute Political Action Committee"

Well - I for one think the oil industry has too much muscle on Capital Hill (why do you think CAFE hasn't moved up since Carter? Duh) - and I think this Iraqi War is for oil ---- Blood for Oil.

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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 08:43 PM
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19. Pelosi voted for star wars last week. She's an idiot.
I don't think the problem is one of her being a bad person. She's just extremely stupid.
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