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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 08:13 PM
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Fox News: 33% of conservatives support Hillary.
"New poll says Hillary would sweep 08'"

I don't watch FOX news for months and am just channel surfing a moment and this is the first thing I see on FOX news.

Gee, I'm so suprised...
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 08:15 PM
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1. Don't believe it
They want her to run because they are well prepared to destroy her as a candidate.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 08:20 PM
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9. I remember 1980.....
How much we Democrats longed for the Republicans to put up Ronald Reagan. Look what happened. It doesn't matter what the Repukes say about Hillary. If she is nominated she would be a very strong candidate. How many times are we going to underestimate the Clintons? Who would have thought 5 years ago that she would be the most popular politician in New York?

Let the Republicans try and play their mind games. They are so out of touch with the electorate I really don't think we should be worrying about who they want to run against.

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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 08:28 PM
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14. I still say that no matter who runs, we Democrats will never
win as long as the repukes are allowed to count the votes. Those snakes have stolen the last two elections while consolidating more power into the hooves of that low-life piece-of-shit in the Oval Office.
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 08:38 PM
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20. Yes, and they stole them by corporate voting machines. There
should be a law that the manufacturers have to make public their coding mechanisms. Only that way will the entire electorate know what is going on. Voting is a public process and nothing should be kept secret about the machines.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 08:15 PM
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2. What is up?
One of my conservative friends sent this to me over the weekend.

There has to be a trick involved here.
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morgan2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 08:16 PM
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3. just saying the name hillary clinton
raises so much money for Republicans.. Its as simple as that, it fires up their base.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 08:17 PM
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4. Hannity just now saying the poll is deadwrong.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 08:18 PM
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6. 80 percent of Liberals would support her. yeah!!!!!1
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 08:17 PM
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5. It is total B.S.
The MSM has been pushing this bull crap all day

We need someone else
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 08:18 PM
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7. why it bullcrap?
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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 08:24 PM
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11. It's a very interesting game Hannity played with Morris.
Morris was really pushing that Hillary could win big, and Hannity put up some rebuttal arguements to that but even said at one point to Morris "you be the host."

It's a very clever form of manipulation...dire warnings from Morris "not to underestimate Hillary," making it look like Hannity was naive in his view she would bring out lots of anti-Hillary vote on the right.

Very clever. Hillary is obviously the one FOX news wants, and they are manipulating their viewers to believe she is the best choice for the dems.
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 08:33 PM
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18. Remember last year when Morris was saying, "Hillary will be the VP"...
Like he knew something no one else new. It's all bullshit now, just like it was then.

Hillary wasn't even close to being the VP candidate, yet Hannity and Fox News were running with the story like it was between Hillary and Edwards.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 09:02 PM
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36. because they know it will unite the repukes
hillary will unite the repukes and divide the democrats
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ConfuZed Donating Member (856 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 08:23 PM
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10. They know conservatives are not going to vote for hillary...
good luck getting them to vote for 'pickles' hillary is everything they stand against she is a powerful women with an opinion and they cannot take that.
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Donna Zen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 08:20 PM
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8. This morning on CNN
Some talking-Nuzak head raised the question: "Who should run against Hillary?"

I guess the primary is over.

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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 08:27 PM
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13. Clinton nostalgia will overwhelm all comers
Edited on Tue May-31-05 08:36 PM by billbuckhead
Clinton-Clark I think a lot of conservatives secretly hope Hillary will win to bring stability and competence back to government, especially if Clark is put in charge of the military.

I"m around a lot of Republicans out in Red state far suburban Atlanta and they respect Hillary in a way that they don't Kerry and Dean. They she her as a tough and serious person.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 08:29 PM
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15. We could use someone like Wes Clark in charge of Pentagon
Someone that will sweep all of the neocons out!
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 08:55 PM
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22. I can see it now...
Edited on Tue May-31-05 08:56 PM by FrenchieCat
Clark with two goddamn brooms in each hand......hitting each neocon with precision in the eye! then taking them, one by one by the shirt collar; turning them round, and giving a hard kick in the ass with his boots...as he throws them out of that building! They land on each other in a stack... and start running screaming "Mommy!" (cause that's what all Chickenhawk shits do).

Now, that would be nice to see!

Here Clark is telling the asshole Neocons....
"GET THE FUCK OUT OF THIS COUNTRY,
YOU NEO CON CONSTITUTION HATING LYING ASSWIPES!"

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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 08:33 PM
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17. OK.. how 'bout Clark/Clinton since the President is the CinC and
the VP is head of the Senate.

Makes more sense that way.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 09:07 PM
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24. Agreed...Clark for President...not Vice President.
I want HIM in command! He'd make a perfect Commander-In-Chief!
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adigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 09:57 PM
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37. I agree - Bill C. worked with repubs and balanced the budget
and acted like a grown up about our economic health, Hillary would too; we would get rid of these absurd tax cuts that are killing us, and Clark would be great for the military.

I don't want Hillary, but I would support her against any republican.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 08:31 PM
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16. Sad, isn't it.
And so many in the Party will just go along and coronate her. Meanwhile, I'll be left to sit on my thumbs and watch my state dive off a cliff, possibly never to recover any blue.
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 08:27 PM
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12. link?
I want to see this 'poll.'
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election_2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 08:37 PM
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19. And we know why that is....
Conservatives WANT Hillary to be the Dem nominee because:

A.) a lot of them think their nominee can beat her easily.

B.) even the Republicans who believe Hillary would be tough to beat also know that, if Hillary was elected, having her at the top of the ticket would bring down a lot of the Democratic incumbents in the Senate who are up for senatorial reelection in 2008 (Landrieu, Pryor, Johnson) - - they are willing to trade off having Hillary in the White House in exchange for increasing a Republican net gain in the U.S. Senate.
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Redneck Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 08:39 PM
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21. The only people pushing for Hillary are...
are the media and the rightwing nuts as far as I can tell. Oh wait, the media and rightwing nuts are pretty much the same thing aren't they?
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 08:58 PM
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23. yep....
same shit, different day.

pundits, polls, and pundits reporting on polls are gonna kill this country.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 09:24 PM
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28. Right! Remember when they thought Dean was a Vermont hick
they kept pushing Dean? Then when they feared him...they destroyed him as fast as they built him up. They will do the same thing to Clinton. Besides the media are frothing at the mouth waiting for the opportunity to attack the Clinton's again and bring up all that Monica crap. They don't care about our country. They just care about ratings. Just like they pushed another war with Iraq so they could get their ratings up like they did with the first Iraq war.
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many a good man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 09:08 PM
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25. I've long heard that 30% of born-agains self-identify as "liberal"
However, I think a lot of right-wingers are lying to pollsters that they "support" Hillary because they want us to run her.
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erpowers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 09:11 PM
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26. Reason
THere may be a reason so many conservatives support Hillary running for President. It is that they think there is no chance she could win. They think that if she runs the Republican who runs against her, unless the person is really bad, will win.
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 09:18 PM
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27. Gotta agree with the majority here...
There's a reason FAUX and the Freeptoids want her as our nominee.. And it ain't cas' they want her at the helm.. :eyes:

BTW.. Those are higher numbers than I've ever seen on any Democratic website, forum, or blog! :o :o :o :o

Then again.. if they called Democrats and asked them who would make the best Republican candidate, you can only imagine what types of responses they'd get :rofl:
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Singular73 Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 09:26 PM
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29. How transparent
Nooone is buying this..not even Repukes.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 09:27 PM
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30. Will they be selling Hillary KoolAid Jumbo Family Packs at Walmart?
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 09:31 PM
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31. I believe it
First, I'm a Clark supporter and if he runs, I'll support him again.
( If Hillary is nominated I'll support her too)

But I have a weird feeling this poll may be right. Here is why.
I live in Oklahoma. In my business I have a waiting room where the mothers wait for their children. I couldn't help but overhear a conversation five or six of these women were having. It was basically, "Well I don't care, I'll vote for her because she has spunk and I would just like to vote for a woman" ( This conversation started because one of the women had Hillary's book with her)
Now, I know for sure that six women in south Tulsa, Oklahoma are not all Democrats, in fact, I think they were all Republicans, except the one with the book, based on what I overheard.

Amazing
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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 09:56 PM
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32. That's the one unknown factor.
Edited on Tue May-31-05 09:57 PM by Clarkie1
How many women will vote for Hillary because they see her as a "woman of spunk," regardless of their own personal political leanings?

That may be, I just don't know...I'm a guy, so I don't know how strong this desire for a woman president among the women of America really is.

Personally, I'd love to see a woman president too if she was the best choice, but not just because she's a "woman with spunk."

And, personally, I find the whole oligarchy thing very distasteful.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 10:38 PM
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34. Well, I'm a woman and I don't want to see Hillary Clinton go down in
history as the first woman U,S. President. She doesn't deserve the honor. What exactly has she accomplished to actually qualify for the highest position in our government?
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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 10:45 PM
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35. She was married to the president?
Edited on Tue May-31-05 10:48 PM by Clarkie1
:shrug: :sarcasm:

Don't want to get flamed here by Hillary suppoters, but that's all that really distinguishes here from the other senators, isn't it?

It would be nice if the first woman president of the United States got their on her own merits, not her husband's.

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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 10:28 PM
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33. it appears they take a poll every week on Hillary's chances.
What has she done to improve her numbers? It must be name recognition only. I just can't believe everyone loves Hillary this much now. Of course, they (Fox,Hannity and Morris) claim that Santorium and Gulliani(sp)could beat her at this point. Sorry, I think this whole Fox exercise was a bunch of crap.
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