An embryo by any other name is . . .

[frankly_fedup2]

a zygote.

I hear them talking about all of these embryos. These are not embryos. They are zygotes. The fertilized egg does not become an embryo until it attaches itself to the uterine wall. Remember your basic sex education class way back when?

they have attached to the uterine wall. Remember the monthly thing we women go through. That is our uterine lining coming out because no fertilized egg attached to the wall of the uterus. It does not mean we didn't have a fertilized egg. It just means if we did or if we didn't, everything comes out (and you know what I mean). Who knows, we could have had a fertilized egg or two, but if they do not attach to the uterine wall, it comes out with our menses.

Why doesn't someone just explain this to them like this. It seems more sensible to me . . . or is it just me???

[janx]

1. Technically, I think the embryos have more than two cells going.

Blastocyst is probably more accurate. But your point is well taken.

[frankly_fedup2]

2. Isn't Blastocyst when the actual cells start splitting. They continue

to split and are considered a zygote. They are still splitting as they come down the fallopian tube into the uterine cavity. If none of them attach to the uterine wall, they do not become an embryo at all and. . . well we're right back to where we were before.

[janx]

3. Of course!

But this is a matter of religion (not science) to some people. And Chimpy's playing politics with it.

[frankly_fedup2]

5. I know. I am so tired of this administration using their philosophy

as well as the evangelical Christians beliefs as to whether or not certain legislation goes through, or if the government gives money for research (our money). They are not to base legislation on their religious philosophies; (i.e. separation of church and state) however, this is all this administration does.

They are suppose to base their decisions on the Constitution, and if they do not agree with that, they are to try to change specific amendments, or create new ones through the balance and checks that are there to cover any of the three, equal in power but separate, parts of our Government.

This dwells into something our forefathers would never dream of; however, if Christians do not think women had abortions in the middle ages and back, they have a lot to learn. Women didn't just come up with it the past Century.

[frankly_fedup2]

4. You are right. A zygote is a 1-cell embryo so a zygote is the same

thing as an embryo.

I thought I better read into it a little more before running off at the mouth. Thanks for pointing that out to me.

Here is an easy reference if anyone is interested.

http://www.givf.com/blastocyst.cfm

[janx]

6. It doesn't matter, really.

A friend of mine delivered twins recently--she'd had in vitro fertilization and marveled at how such a small collection of cells could attach and grow into a child.

She is a Christian and a well educated woman, and we had a fascinating discussion about the whole process.

An egg is not a chicken. An acorn is not an oak tree.

[Gold Metal Flake]

7. Shut up and INCUBATE!

Don't make me send you back to the Flanders Ward for additional conditioning!

[LittleClarkie]

8. Breakfast

Damn it, I wanna omelet now, and it's all your fault.

[Crunchy Frog]

9. Well, they refer to them as embryos

at the fertility clinic where I have them frozen, even though they're only single cell fertilized eggs.

I don't expect a fertility clinic would know the proper terminology though.:shrug: