Mark Felt thought the Nixon team were Nazis according to Bob Woodward.

[Zen Democrat]

"There is little doubt Felt thought the Nixon team were Nazis. During this period, he had to stop efforts by others in the bureau to "identify every member of every hippie commune" in the Los Angeles area, for example, or to open a file on every member of Students for a Democratic Society."

From the story up on the Washington Post website now.

[followthemoney]

1. Oh, how right he was!

those repugs never change.

[Dover]

2. Hmmmm.....I thought Felt's mentor was J. Edgar Hoover.

And didn't the neocons have misgivings about Nixon as well due to his China policy (neocons are apparently very anti-communist....ironic huh?).

[Zen Democrat]

10. Felt wasn't a neocon. He came up through the FBI under Hoover,

as did everyone at the Bureau. Apparently Felt was a by-the-book guy -- he wasn't opposed to spying on the Weather Underground because they were a violent group, but he drew the line on communes and the SDS. If Felt believed the Nixon people were Nazis, he apparently didn't think Hoover was one of them. Hoover, by the way, did ix-nay the Huston Plan in early 1972. Hoover was found dead shortly thereafter. Maybe Felt had info that Nixon's "Plumbers" offed his boss.

[Dover]

17. Actually Mitchell convinced Nixon to nix the Huston plan

after Hoover had complained to Mitchell about it. While there may have been bad blood between nixon and hoover, I doubt he was offed by the plumbers.

[Erika]

3. He is right

That administration thought they were all above the law. Most corrupt administration in our history. Nixon/Agnew/Mitchell, all crooks. Felt was right in going outside of this administration with his info. The administration would have buried his info and likely him also. This just wasn't about a break in, it was about a corrupt and arrogant administration.

[acmejack]

37. Until now.

I think this bunch has surpassed nixon. I didn't think much of RMN and associates, but I believe this cabal is much worse.

[Kurovski]

47. And John W Dean of Watergate fame

agrees with you.

Here is the title of one of his books; "Worse Than Watergate: The Secret Presidency of George W. Bush".

[thecai]

4. The Fascist Nazi Agenda

Has been in the making for decades, and worsens with each R President.
Or so I've noticed over the generations.

[MnFats]

5. YES! Their original plan involved ordering the CIA to tell the FBI..

....that a thorough Watergate investigation would bring up all sorts of national security matters, including Bay of Pigs secrets that would embarrass the Kennedys. In other words, have the CIA to tell the FBI to shut the investigation down.

think of that....using one branch of government subvert another all, for political gain. Nixon was perfectly willing to pay hush money to the burglars and in fact, John Dean had to talk him out of it.

Watergate was NOT the first break=in! They earlier broke into the office of Daniel Ellsberg's psychiatrist (Ellsberg turned the Pentagon Papers over to the New York Times) looking for SOMETHING, ANYTHING that they could use to destroy Ellsberg.

the list of Watergate crimes goes on and on....at least 40 members of Nixon's administration were convicted of felonies and most served prison time.

Later on, Nixon made an incredibly revealing statement to Brit interviewer David Frost. FRost asked him about limits to presidential power and Nixon replied:

"When the president does it, that means it's not against the law."

A stunner, I thought.

[bobthedrummer]

12. I think that when Nixon spoke vaguely about "...that whole Bay of Pigs

thing..." it was a code phrase meaning exposing the truth about President Kennedy's assassination. My .02.

[Zen Democrat]

14. Worth more than .02. Haldeman said the same thing.

He said whenever Nixon spoke of the "Bay of Pigs" he believed it was code for the Kennedy Assassination.

[Radical Activist]

6. Was George H. W. Bush CIA director during this time?

I thought it was under Nixon.

[Blue_In_AK]

8. Ford, I think. n/t

[Zen Democrat]

11. Bush was Chairman of the RNC.

[Blue_In_AK]

7. Oh, Jesus, I would have been on TWO lists.... n/t

[ReadTomPaine]

18. Don't worry. You're on plenty of lists already. n/t

[Eloriel]

9. He was absolutely right --

Nixon was groomed by the Dulleses who had a LOT to do with bringing all those (barely) post-WW2 Nazis into the U.S. under Operation Paperclip.

Hmm, I don't seem to have any links specifically marked "NIXON" but I know he was involved as a young politician. Here are some links re that general subject.

There's no doubt some info in here:
Nazi Hydra in America
http://www.spiritone.com/~gdy52150/noon.html


***** Bush Family - Nazi Dealings - WWII to 1951
by John Buchanan and Stacey Michael
from The New Hampshire Gazette Vol. 248, No. 3, November 7, 2003
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Politicians/Bush_Nazi_Dealings.html
discussed here (with many more links): http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1584497

The Ghost of Adolph Hitler: Nazi Influence in America
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/STA310A.html


Mae Brussell: http://www.maebrussell.com/index.html
MAE BRUSSELL'S PICTURE OF THE PENTAGON - THE SPIDER AND THE ODESSA
http://www.newsmakingnews.com/mbspiderweb2,21,83.htm


Ratlines: The CIA and the Nazis (Tarpley)
http://www.spiritone.com/~gdy52150/ratlines.htm

CIA's Worst Kept Secret
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2001/051601a.html

Project Paperclip and Camp Evans (in N.J.)
http://www.infoage.org/paperclip.html

Opn Paperclip (Namebase)
http://www.namebase.org/main3/Operation-Paperclip.html


Project Paperclip: Nazi Scientists Who Performed Human Experimentation in the U. S. http://www.dc.peachnet.edu/~shale/humanities/composition/assignments/experiment/paperclip.htm

Project Paperclip and Literal Nazi Connections
http://www.datafilter.com/mc/paperclip.html
Resources on Human Experimentation by Nazi Doctorszi Experimentation
http://www.dc.peachnet.edu/~shale/humanities/composition/assignments/experiment/paperclip.html
and Resources on Nonconsensual Human Experimentation
http://www.dc.peachnet.edu/~shale/humanities/composition/assignments/experiment/paperclip.html



Operation Paperclip Revisited: Moral Schmoral By RICHARD THIEME, August 22, 2003
http://www.counterpunch.org/thieme08222003.html

Nazi commander 'was CIA agent'
13/06/2004 13:30 - (SA)
http://www.news24.com/News24/World/News/0,,2-10-1462_1541999,00.html

Nixon's got to be in there somewhere. :evilgrin:

[Zen Democrat]

15. Nixon was also groomed by ... ta da ... Prescott Bush.

[BrklynLiberal]

43. And here is the photographic evidence.

That is Prescott Bush himself helping Tricky Dick with his hat.
(From what, I read in a couple of places, if the Wall Street bigwigs had had their way, Hitler would have won the War. It was FDR and Gen Smedley Butler, who prevented a Wall Street/Corporate sponsored coup, that saved the world from Hitler)



"According to Nixon's biography, his personal and political ties with the Bush family go back to 1946, when Nixon claims he read an ad placed in an L.A. newspaper by the Orange County Republican Party and a wealthy group of businessmen led by Prescott Bush, the father of George Bush.

"They wanted a young candidate to run for Congress. Nixon applied and won the job, becoming a mouthpiece for the Bush group, progressing to the U.S. Senate and in 1952 the vice presidency.

"In 1960, Vice President Nixon was scouring the world seeking the presidency. At his side was Prescott Bush. Congressman Gerald Ford was helping raise funds, as was George Bush.

"It took Nixon eight more years to reach his goal. And the canny politician always remembered who helped him get there. So again it was payback time for George Bush. Nixon appointed him Chairman of the Republican National Committee, and later ambassador to China.

"By 1976, Ford, who succeeded Nixon after Watergate, paid his due bill. He picked out a big job for his old crony, Bush: the CIA. But this time Bush would not be an underling. Now he would be head man."

[bobthedrummer]

16. The fact is that these real Nazis and Nazi partisans found a political

home in the RW of The Republican Party. Nixon helped many Operation PAPERCLIP Nazis and fascist dictators during his evil political life.
But the Nazis given identities as Americans working in national security, they were Republicans.

Old Nazi Networks in US (Russ Bellant's work)
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/academic/political-science/fascism/bellant/bellant.pt1

[Eloriel]

31. Fabulous link -- thank you

Duly added to my collection.

[thecai]

20. Great Post and Links, Eloriel!

Thanks for the important info!

[Blue_In_AK]

21. I watched a documentary last night

about just this topic. Here I am 58 years old, thinking I'm pretty well informed, but every day I learn more and more about the duplicity of our government -- going back years and years and years. It's truly sickening (but I guess not surprising) that the post-war CIA would facilitate the escape from justice of so many of Nazi criminals. It's painful to learn that America isn't really the pure beacon of truth and justice that we were taught to love as children.

[Eloriel]

29. It is painful -- but absolutely necessary

to wake up and smell the truth (LOL -- to coin a phrase here. Or something).

It's depressing, disillusioning, maddening and infuriating, and a lot of other things. But you are SO MUCH more fortunate to be on the side of knowing the truth than you were. But you know that.

Anyway, welcome to the REAL world. Sucks, huh?

[starroute]

32. Here's your Nixon connection

http://64.226.35.229/assata4.htm

A sample of this kind of history is recounted by John Loftus and Mark Aaron in their book, The Secret War Against the Jews: "According to several of our sources among the 'old spies,' Richard Nixon's political career began in 1945, when he was the navy officer temporarily assigned to review . . . captured Nazi documents." The documents revealed the wartime record of Karl Blessing, "former Reichsbank officer and then head of the Nazi oil cartel, Kontinentale Ol A.G. 'Konti' was in partnership with {Allen} Dulles's principal Nazi client, I.G. Farben. Both companies had despicable records regarding their treatment of Jews during the Holocaust. After the war Dulles not only 'lost' Blessings' Nazi party records, but he helped peddle a false biography in the ever-gullible New York Times."

<snip>

Dulles made a deal with the navy officer who was reviewing the Konti files - Richard Nixon. For Nixon's help in burying the Konti files, Dulles "arranged to finance {Nixon's} first congressional campaign against Jerry Voorhis." <13>

Dulles's support for Nixon was rewarded in 1947 when, as the freshman congressman from California, he "saved John Foster Dulles considerable embarrassment by privately pointing out that confidential government files showed that one of Foster's foundation employees, Alger Hiss, was allegedly a Communist. The Dulles brothers took Nixon under their wing and escorted him on a tour of Fascist 'freedom fighter' operations in Germany, apparently in anticipation that the young congressman would be useful after Dewey became president." <14>

After Truman's victory, "Nixon became Allen Dulles's mouthpiece in Congress. Both he and Senator Joseph McCarthy received volumes of classified information to support the charge that the Truman administration was filled with 'pinkos.' When McCarthy went too far in his Communist investigations, it was Nixon who worked with his next-door neighbor, CIA director Bedell Smith, to steer the investigations away from the intelligence community.

Too much there to quote all of it -- but the rest is worth a look as well.

[fooj]

13. McGovern said that he'd rather see Nixon and his gang in the WH...

than the ones who currently occupy it. He said it this afternoon on MSNBC!! You go, Senator McGovern! :applause:

He talked about how this administration lied to get us into this war. "They were no threat to the United States."


peace.

[funflower]

34. The current administration makes the Watergate look like a Sunday

School picnic.

:mad:

[ClassWarrior]

19. What's with Woodward saying in '97 that DT was too high-profile...

...to reveal. That DT's profile had changed considerably from his Watergate days. That doesn't fit Felt. Up until yesterday, he was relatively obscure to the public.

NGU.

[Karenina]

22. Kick!

:kick:

[i miss america]

27. KeithO talked about this last night and raised other related issues

I'm not yet ready to buy into the "Mark Felt was Deep Throat" thing.

IMO, the pieces just don't fit.

[DeepModem Mom]

23. kick

[glitch]

24. What did he think about Cheney and Rumsfeld? Or Ford, who promoted them?

Just curious. But I like to look at who benefits, and Cheney and Rumsfeld did very well from Nixon's resignation.

[Pacifist Patriot]

25. I'm thinking the outing of Deep Throat could be a very very good thing

for us and absolutely devastating for the Bush administration. What an opportunity for people to either draw parallels or make the Bush administration look worse. I think we are going to see more and more of that.

[Norquist Nemesis]

26. Republicans are thinking the exact same thing as you!

Which is exactly why the rush to get opinions from the likes of Buchanan and Liddy. Add a little Limbaugh to the mix to really get things rolling and, voila!!! Notice how the debate has been immediately shifted to Felt's acts being "unconstitutional" and an act of betrayal? It's no accident.

[Pacifist Patriot]

28. Oh lovely. I would relish a conversation about what is and is not

Constitutional. Bring it on!

[funflower]

33. Liddy and Limbaugh? A couple of criminals give their thoughts on

the Constitution.

[al bupp]

30. Deep Throat: COINTELPRO Spook and All-American Hero

What the corporate media isn't saying about Deep Throat:

http://kurtnimmo.com/blog/index.php?p=690

[followthemoney]

35. Imagine the disgust the righties must have in knowing...

that Reagan pardoned Deep Throat as a hero. If they knew who he was he would have been locked up for spitting on the sidewalk.

[RedEarth]

36. Republicans were then and they are now........Hilter wanna be's

[tsuki]

38. I thought he worked for the biggest fascist of the era. Hoover

had been collecting files like that on his own authority since the 40's.

[Cha]

39. If Felt thought the nixon

guys were "nazis"..what does he think of the bushreich?

[tex-wyo-dem]

40. Good question...

might this be part of the reason for the timing?

[Cha]

42. Zactly!

And why the reich is jumping up and down trying to discredt him.

Wasn't he a republican or not?

[woodsprite]

41. Could it be that poppy * is paying

the Felt family good money to let them say he's DeepThroat? AFter all, they said he's 91 and not doing well mentally after his stroke, perfect candidate. Maybe he wouldn't realize he's being used. Maybe Woodward was getting paid to "corroborate" the story and be the money go between for poppy and the family. Might be worth considering.

OK, I'll take my tinfoil hat off now for a rest. I've had it on most of the morning... :tinfoilhat:

[BrklynLiberal]

45. I share you tinfoil hat.

My earlier post.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3757982&mesg_id=3758094

I STILL think Deep Throat was Poppy. Nixon got paid back for not making Poppy Veep as he was supposed to do.
The corporatists were hellbent on using the govt to protect their interests,as they had done up until FDR.
Every president who interfered with their goals was expendable, whether he was a Democrat or a Republican.
They tried the coup with FDR. Only Smedley Butler's patriotism stopped that.
Eisenhower warned publicly about the military industrial complex. He even specifically mentioned Texas oilmen.
We all know what happened to JFK when he said he was going to withdraw the US military from South America and stop protecting the corporate interests there.
Nixon was OK until he refused to make Poppy Veep.
Reagan was easy to control. He was the beginning of the end of the New Deal. With him we lost the media fairness doctrine, and it was the beginning of the end for labor with the firing of the Air Traffic Controllers.
Bush Senior was supposed to carry on with 2 more terms of the same thing. Clinton's victory put a real cramp in the style of the corporatists and that is why they hated him so much.
That is why the Corporate Moguls used the media to destroy him. He triumphed as best he could in spite of them.
By the time Gore ran, the corporatists realized that they could win anything if they merged with the fundamentalists, and that is exactly what they did, and stole 2 elections. We are on the verge of being right back where we were before FDR.
The corporations will be running the government as a tool for their own benefit and protection. Politicians will be totally on the payroll of corporations. The poor and the uneducated will have no chance to advance at all. The rich will send the poor out to fight the wars to protect their businesses.
It will in fact, be worse, since the media is more pervasive. The people will be easier to control.

[evolvenow]

44. BobWoodward: intelligence operative before WP andWatergate.Still is.

(Despite the focus on Mark Felt's role, the real story is Bob Woodward's role as a Intelligence operative, then and now.

See Operation Mockingbird, which ironically Carl Bernstein wrote about possibly without realizing his partner Woodward was part of.)



http://www.webcom.com/ctka/pr196-woodward.html

Aboard the Wright, Woodward had top secret "crypto"
clearance-the same clearance researcher Harold
Weisberg found had been assigned to Lee Harvey
Oswald when he was himself in the Marines. Such clearance
in Woodward's case gave him full access to nearly all
classified materials and codes on the ship. Woodward
also ran the ship's newspaper. Woodward has insisted
that possessing a high security clearance is not
necessarily indicative of intelligence work.
snip<
By 1968, Woodward ran the ship's radio team. In
1969, Woodward was awarded the Navy Commendation Medal for
his communications work. From there, Woodward moved on
to a Pentagon assignment, a job that included
briefing top officers in the government. Admiral Thomas
Moorer and former secretary of defense Melvin Laird are
both on record noting that Woodward briefed Al Haig at
the White House during this period. What is suspicious
is Woodward's semi-admittance to Hougan that he had
done some briefing, and his complete denial to Colodny
and Gettlin that he had ever briefed anyone at the White
House.

Havill notes:

Considering the evidence, Bob Woodward's denial
more strongly suggests intelligence than it does his
uninvolvement in White House briefings.

Woodward's secrecy about his past, his choice of
associates, and what is known of his activities
caused
Havill to write:

The question, then, begs itself once more. Was
Bob
Woodward ever a free-lance or retained Central
Intelligence Agency liaison officer, informant or
operative . . . ? This author got various forms of
affirmative opinions from intelligence experts. It
would explain his assignment to the Wright and his
misleading statements to interviewers. It would make
understandable his being able to get out of going to
Vietnam in 1968, his extension for an additional
year
at the Pentagon, his being chosen to brief at the
White House and his denials as well. It would also
help explain his subsequent high-level friendships
with leaders of the U.S. military and the CIA.

It would also explain the role Woodward and
Bernstein
wittingly or unwittingly played in keeping the CIA's
nose clean while making sure the world saw the
President's nose was dirty.
snip<

More about Mockingbird:

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/MOCK/...

[Doctor_J]

46. To which young GHWB replied,

I'll show you Naziism!

[bobthedrummer]

48. Kick.

:dem::kick:

[thecai]

49. Kick (Nazis OUT) n/t