Demeter
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Thu Jun-02-05 06:25 AM
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A Modest Proposal--The Bush Bounty |
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With the revelation of the identity of Deep Throat, the foundation of the downfall of the Nixon crime spree, we have learned the motivation: hell hath no fury like a FIBBER scorned.
So, who will take enough hits from BushCo to turn in the evidence to evict and convict? I think there are many victims, but the group with the greatest power to clean house right now would have to be the military. One might even say that Abu Graib was a botched attempt at it. Christy Todd Whitman even tried, but didn't get much traction. One might have thought the boardroom fraud would have done the trick. Perhaps the Ohio Workers Comp scandal?
Would it help to offer a reward for evidence to convict? How about for publicity to promote the evidence we have? Should we go after the Criminal in Chief, or start by cleaning out the temples of the Religious Right?
Considering all the scandals we have seen exposed, these past 5 years, including the pedophilia and cover-up in the Catholic Church, will anything move the complacent off their duffs and into spring cleaning mode?
Brainstorm, people. We need to fix this.
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Thu Jun-02-05 06:31 AM
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That will excite the populace. As much as I don't want to see it reinstated, I know when (not if) it is, then the uprising against shrub and his neocons will begin.
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Thu Jun-02-05 08:27 AM
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draft. I've said it before; I say it again. The Republicans are way too smart to reinstate it. So if it does come back, it will be a totally Democratic (think Charlie Rangel) process. But we don't have the votes.
You might as well as God to come down and install a Democrat. Better, in fact. Didn't it work for the Republicans? :)
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Thu Jun-02-05 08:38 AM
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If the Bush misadministration wants to continue their imperial march across the middle east they are going to have to do something to staunch the flow of veterans from their ranks. Soon they will run out of people they can extend on their IRR lists. Junior officers are leaving in droves and they can't even Shanghai recruits anymore. That leaves only two options.
1) They can tank the economy so badly that the only option for young people to get by is enlistment.
2) They can reinstate the draft and blame it on those America hating liberals who just won't enlist any other way.
I think GWB's statement about no draft on his watch will become as infamous as his dad's statement, "read my lips."
There is one other alternative - declare peace and bring our troops home. Not likely with this bunch.
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Thu Jun-02-05 08:42 AM
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6. Well, either your assumptions |
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are wrong, or mine are. My money, and yes I do have a substantial bet on this with a friend, is on "no draft during the Bush administration". I further doubt they will deliberately tank the economy for any reason whatsoever.
If I am right, I would suggest re-examining your assumptions. Certainly if I am wrong I will re-examine mine.
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Thu Jun-02-05 08:59 AM
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I am not inflexible, but I have little faith in this administrations ability to not tank the economy. It may not be intentional, but it is happening. And it is one of the driving factors in the few enlistments they are getting.
I also believe that the bunch of liars in the WH will say anything to maintain control. But GWB is now a lame duck president and he can literally do anything he wants, including start a draft, if it will forward his and the neocon agenda. He can take the heat because he will not be running again and the neocon spin machine can put another liar on the ticket next time.
Honestly, I hope you are right.
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Thu Jun-02-05 09:48 AM
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anything. He will personally never have to run for office again, but if the "neo-con" agenda is to go forward, he has to leave a positive legacy for his heir as Republican candidate. Unless you bouy into the crap about Republican's ability to steal any election, in which case there is nothing we can do, hence nothing to worry about.
But I am right. You'll see.
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Thu Jun-02-05 10:05 AM
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Isn't it a little late for that? I see nothing but negative results from this administration.
And about that "ability to steal any elections" crap. I am a native Floridian, and a yellow dog southern democrat. I saw first hand what this cabal of criminals can do. I don't trust them as far as I can throw a piano. I found myself agreeing with Fidel Castro's comment a few years ago. Fidel laughed at something Bush said and replied, "Bush was not elected, but appointed."
I think the only way the neocons are going to be able to forward their agenda is by nefarious means. Isn't this why they are already campaigning. What was that crap on TV about McCain last week if it wasn't an advance campaign advertisement. They have McCain complete cowed by now and believe he is moderate enough to offset some of the aggressive damage done to their image.
You are "right"? I'm left and I think we will both see soon. I still feel a draft. I was a victim of the draft before and thought "it can't happen to me." I got my notice 4 days before Christmas 1966. It can happen.
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Thu Jun-02-05 11:17 AM
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Republican base does consider his legacy to be positive. So far. A draft would destroy that.
As for Fidel, why use a ruthless, murdering, dictator to back your arguments? Murdering bastard is what he is.
OK, what is nefarious about campaigning? I don't doubt that the Republicans, some of them anyway, are capable of corrupt deeds. But they are entitled to campaign. It seems to me that many on the left just want the Republicans to pre-emptively concede to them on the issues and the elections. That is not a plan for success.
John McCain. Will he ever be President? Not as a Republican. Living in a "red" state, I have a lot of conservative friends. The conservatives will never forgive him.
In 1966, the draft had been in place for many years. The authority was already there to draft. It will not be installed again, not on Bush's watch anyway, and I doubt that it will be in our lifetimes. We will see.
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Thu Jun-02-05 10:57 AM
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10. I Thought They Already Tanked the Economy |
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once and they're going to do it again, shortly. Oh, maybe it won't have BushCo fingerprints all over it, but between the ever-mounting deficits and the resurgence of corporate defrauders, it's coming. I'm in Michigan and believe me, there IS NO RECOVERY!
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Fri Jun-03-05 12:10 AM
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I think they will have no choice.
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Fri Jun-03-05 07:54 AM
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bet with a friend. There will be no draft.
You seem to think that Republicans can't change direction when they realize their policies are failing. You are wrong. Frankly, from the discussions that I have been in on this board, I think it is the Democrats who are unwilling to change direction, even if it is only a tactical retreat.
There will be no draft.
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Fri Jun-03-05 03:21 PM
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14. Wow. You sure like to say that over and over, dontcha? (nt) |
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Thu Jun-02-05 06:39 AM
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2. Media Are Owned By Criminals. Can't Get There Without Free Press. |
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Thu Jun-02-05 06:50 AM
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3. I think the CIA would have the dirt. But they cleaned house ruthlessly. |
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