HELP: HILLARY CLINTON 2008!

[CrazyRP]

(BTW...Some of you might remember me from my several thousand posts as rpf113. I'm waiting for my password.)

Now I am hoping as much as anyone here that Bush gets his behind kicked in 2004, but I think it's time we start hedging our bets and getting a grassroots campaign giong for Hillary in 2008.

So I need volunteers! I need someone to make a 'Draft Hillary 2008' website. Let's get on Meetup.com.

HILLARY!
HILLARY!
HILLARY!

[Walt Starr]

1. Sorry, I cannot support that at this time

and probably could not support Hillary in 2008 regardless of the fact that I know my wife would.

[absyntheNsugar]

8. Me neither

She's pretty far to the right, and carries way too much political baggage to pull off a win.

[formernaderite]

37. I hated the Bush coronation...and certainly won't support a Clinton Two

Hillary is senator because she's the cuckolded wife of one of America's favorite presidents. She votes out of one side of her mouth and talks lovey dovey to us out of the other. Everything is calculated for a run in the general election. Sorry, but I found it hard to take her seriously as a Senator, and would never vote for her in the primary. I hate political dynasties...I don't believe because you are related to a Kennedy or Bush anyone should vote for you. Democracy is supposed to be the voice of the populace...I'm frankly tired of this political nepotism, and stunned that the voters continue to support it.

[leyton]

2. Why not wait till after the election?

Starting now would make it look like we think we'll lose.

What are Hillary's virtues as a candidate/President?

[oasis]

13. That's it. All we need to do now is to lock up this election.

[mot78]

3. Rrrright

If we do that, polling places on Election Day have be having record Republican turnouts. And why should she be drafted for 2008 when we haven't even had the 2004 election yet?

[lancdem]

6. I agree it's way too early

[lancdem]

4. I love Hillary and would vote for her in heartbeat

but I'm entriely focused on 2004. Sorry!

[Tinoire]

5. Hillary?

Let's not and say we did.

The only thing I admire abut Hillary is that she doesn't bake cookies but will pretend to when competing with Barbara Bush's false matronly image as a cookie-baker.

Hope Hillary isn't counting on my support because it won't be there.

[Zinnola]

28. I agree Tinoire

Hillary is NOT who I want representing the DEM party ever. She is an opportunistic snake, whose positions are like her husbands.. she looks at the polls for what she should vote for, and is inauthentic as hell. Plus, if she ever got the nom, she is such a polarizing and despised figure by the Repugs that the Rep party wouldn't have to raise a dime to get them to vote againist her.

[Dr Fate]

7. Uh huh. Yep. We are whatever the media says we are, right?

The media loves to talk about "Hillary", so I guess that means actual DEMS cant get enough of her- right?

Just because Fox, Rush, Drudge and Newsmax cant give up the Hillary thing does not make it a reality with actual DEMS.

Please, keep on thinking that DEMS are what the media says we are. It will make it easier for us to suprise & confuse our enemies...

[sallyseven]

10. The democrat is going to

win so she will have to wait until 2012. I will support her then. We are going to win folks be positive and work like heck. Help our Dem. senators and reps also. Take back our government.

[arcane1]

25. but all of us liberals get our "marching orders" from Bill & Hillary

I know it's true, the tv says so! :silly:

[xultar]

9. She may miss her chance if she doesn't accept a VeeP slot.

When Clark gets elected he will be in for 8 years and then it will be too late for her.

[Bolo Boffin]

16. Not too late for Hillary

She can go for re-election in NY, which she should win easily, giving her 12 years cred for the presidential run in 2012.

I'd bet that's the real Clinton plan.

[aldian159]

26. If Rudy runs in 2006

she might not win so easily.

[IndianaGreen]

11. Hillary voted for IWR and PATRIOT

and she went to Israel and refused to meet with any Palestinian leaders or representatives, unlike Joe Lieberman who did.

Lucky for you that Hillary is not running this year.

[INTELBYTES]

12. Hillary? No thank you.

nt

[Renew Deal]

14. I don't want Hillary now and I don't think I want her then.

It is fun to watch all the freeper heads explode, but other than that I'm not interested. Besides that, I plan on winning this election.

[Bolo Boffin]

15. Hedge your own bet.

Hillary can do a second NY Senate term, and be tanned, rested, and ready for 2012.

That's the Clinton plan.

[no name no slogan]

17. No bleeping way

Hilary is a symptom of what's WRONG with this party.

We don't need another Corporocratic president. Slick Willy did enough damage to this party in a scant eight years to last us a lifetime. He's made us all be irrelevant to blue-collar workers, who were once one of our core demographic.

IF indeed she is drafted in 2008, I will work my ass off to keep her from the nomination. One Clinton presidency every century is one too many.

[JohnLocke]

18. Never!!

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[INTELBYTES]

30. So, whada ya think John Locke?

[JohnLocke]

38. Is that a joke?

[Bombtrack]

19. The GOP wants to face Hillary even more than they do Dean

which is a whole lot

She'd be a landslide loser in all probability, we can do much better for the first female nominee. Mary Landrieu, Dianne Feinstein etc.

[adamrsilva]

24. A Hillary candidacy would bring unmatched Republican turnout

Most Americans like her, but the Republicans would be out in full force like we will be this November.

[Cocoa]

20. why?

why would we want to draft her, and why would she need to be drafted, why wouldn't she run on her own?

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[K8-EEE]

22. Hillary Won't Run Against President EDWARDS!

YEOW! He's my dream Prez....tell Hillary to help HIM!

And HELLO -- 2004 comes before 2008!

[JohnLocke]

39. kick

[adamrsilva]

23. Hillary supports the war in Iraq

and she's way too centrist. Might as well vote for Daschle while we're at it.

If it's true Al Gore was looking for a new base with his Moveon speeches and Dean support to make another run, than it worked. I'd be supporting him.

[pacifictiger]

27. your timing is about as

sensible as bush wanting to go to mars in this economic climate!! Makes we wonder if your post isn't an opposition plant.

[Stuckinthebush]

29. News alert!

This is 2004. We have an election to win NOW. If we win, I think we would be best to support the guy in office in 2008 over Hillary. Dontchathink?

You're hitting this way too soon.

[CrazyRP]

31. You're right....

in a sense. We shouldn't undermine this election and I am determined to win. (A Poll today showed Kerry beating Bush by 2%, very encouraging.)

But, god forbid, we don't win I think we need a superstar candidate to devastate the 2008 or 2012 Republicans and think that we need to get the wheels moving on this bus as soon as possible.

I don't know if you guys have been following her, but she has become the practical head of the Democratic Party. She still beats all of the other candidates when polled. So if she can beat John Kerry in a heartbeat, and Kerry can beat Bush, the Hillary should be able to take him on, or any of his neoconservative allies.

(BTW...Some of you might remember me from my several thousand posts as rpf113. I'm waiting for my password.)

Now I'd appreciate it if people didn't post anymore negative opinions on this thread. I can't believe the venom Democrats have for Hillary. You sound exactly like Rush Limbaugh, and that's pathetic. Hillary is a good, honest woman, a shrewd politician and a sure winner in 2008 or 2012. She is immensely popular.


SO IF ANY OF YOU WOULD LIKE TO JOIN ME ON STARTING A DRAFT HILLARY WEBSITE WHICH WE WILL DEBUT AFTER THE 2004 ELECTION, SHOULD BUSH WIN, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.

[arcane1]

32. "she has become the practical head of the Democratic Party"

that's news to me...

[Blitz]

36. "Now I'd appreciate it . . ."

". . . if people didn't post anymore negative opinions on this thread."

LOL!! Wait, let me pick myself up off of the floor.

Also, I'd like everyone to stop blinking for about an hour.

Just as realistic. :-)

[Namvet04]

33. We do not need this nonsense at this time and she does not want it

We need to focus like a laser beam on this election.

Hillary can get in the back of the line behind the next president if from our party, or of we do not win, gets at the back behind experience people like Kerry, Dean, Edwards, Clark, Gore, DK, Al, Carol and then she can start at the back.

[Cuban_Liberal]

34. I'll pass until 2007.

There are a LOT of good Democrats 'in the wings', my own state's Governor among them, who may decide to have a go at it in 2008. Until that picture starts to come together, I won't decide or be a party to 'freezing anyone out'.

[Kipepeo]

35. I agree with others here

That this is silly when we haven't even had the 2004 elections yet. We should be focusing all of our energy on getting Bush out this year.

And Hillary is too centrist for me anyway.

[youngred]

40. Sorry, No

that'd be a disaster

[frustrated_lefty]

41. No, not at this time

Sorry, that seems to support the idea that we're going to lose in 2004. We're not.

[AntiCoup2K4]

42. Hillary won't even get my vote in 2012 now

Not after she gave Junior a standing ovation when he LIED about his invasion of Iraq "making America safer".

And in 2008, I'll be supporting President Dean's re-election anyway :)

[Leilani]

43. Why are you assuming

that a Dem will not be running for reelection?

Forget about it.

[Ilsa]

44. So, are you even bothering to work in this election?

How about making 2004 happen instead of sitting about for four years?

[VirginiaIs4Lieberman]

45. Something scares me

about Hillary in charge of the military and numerous WMDs. I honestly think she is evil. I'd hate to say it, but I'd rather have Bu$h.

[NNN0LHI]

46. You would rather have a drug and booze addled deserter? OK n/t

[VirginiaIs4Lieberman]

48. It's a close call

but I don't know about a power-hungry anti-semitic liar either.

[ramapo]

47. No thanks...bad idea

Hillary should stick to trying to be a Senator. We don't need the pain of her candidacy

[Padraig18]

49. No, thank you.

When 2008 arrives, IF I believe that Sen. Clinton is the best candidate for POTUS our party has to offer, I will support her. Until then, I'll leave the mental masturbation to others, and concentrate on getting HD the nod, and the WH. :)

[union_maid]

50. Not right now

If I was to think about 2008 at all, it would be about re-electing the Democratic president that uprooted the Shrub back in '04. That's got to be the whole focus of every Democrat. And, if we should not prevail this year, and if there are still free elections in 2008, who knows who'll be looking good by then. Might be one of these guys..might be someone we're not even thinking about yet.

[question everything]

51. Too many negatives

I think that she is a wonderful planner and visualizer of policy but she has too many negatives - like Howard Dean now.

I hope that she will have a place in a cabinet as a senior adviser and this time, on her own account.

[Moderator]

52. locked