A Clark and Dean collaboration might win

[quinnox]

I am a Kerry supporter, and I am worried that should either Clark or Dean decide to ally with one another, they can topple my boy Kerry.

This is worrying, I have to admit. If either one ends up dropping out and then endorsing the other, it might be very potent.

Maybe they have bad feelings between each other though. I don't know what is happening behind the scenes.

[wyldwolf]

1. Dean: "Now that I think about it, maybe I DID offer the VP to Clark!"

</sarcasm>

[bearfartinthewoods]

11. interesting that someone feels it would take two to beat kerry

[bain_sidhe]

16. Splitting the outsider vote

If you look at the Dean + Clark votes, more people are voting for outsiders than insiders.

Plus, as I've said before (and I'll KEEP saying till somebody notices!), both Dean and Clark are talking about growing the party. They have different strategies for doing that, but they both recognize that "Current Dems + picking off a few swing voters here and there" is not a winning strategy. I believe (and, I believe *they* believe) that we must change the inputs before we get a new output. Sorry if that doesn't make as much sense on the screen as it does in my head, but my laundry's done and I gotta go get it out of the dryer before it wrinkles.

I'll be back later to expand (or, expound, as some might charge).

[bearfartinthewoods]

21. you forgot Edwards who is the best mix of insider/outsider

how does he figure in?

[wyldwolf]

22. Yeah? But that wouldn't be me...

[Andromeda]

26. It took four to beat Dean in Iowa...

:evilgrin:

[KittyWampus]

27. In NH It Isn't JUST Kerry. It's Kerry & Rightwing Propaganda Selling Him

[blm]

2. I doubt it. Clark and Dean are in proClinton and antiClinton camps.

Kerry and Edwards are in the proClinton camp. No way Clark and Dean will join.

[quinnox]

4. Thats a good point

n/t

[xultar]

5. Yup, I heard a Dean supporte ron C-Span say when she heard that

Clark was "backed" by the Clintons she dropped him like a hot potato.

So it goes...

[Loren645]

6. Politics makes strange bedfellows.

Or hadn't you heard? :)

[blm]

7. Yup. I'm a Socialist Democrat and my spouse is a commie.

heheh.

[KC21304]

3. I think Kerry and Clark would ally , way before Clark and Dean.

[funky_bug]

8. Clark and Dean Camps won't combine? I beg to differ!

Have you seen the NH flyers your candidate is sending out? If you think for one second that the Clark supporters are going to play ring-around-the-Kerry, you're wrong.

I'm ABB, but that's what it will take for me to support Kerry now... that, or an apology.

And as to the original topic of this thread... look around. Lot's of Clark and Dean supporters have buried the hatchet. At this point, Dean is now my #2. Any Clark or Dean supporters want to affirm or deny this?

[bicentennial_baby]

10. Agree on all points

You got it Wife of a Wes Freak! :toast:

[bearfartinthewoods]

12. i find it interesting....

we are about to step into the ring with some of the dirtiest fighters around, yet people are alligning their votes against kerry because he's being agressive.


we are sooooo screwed.

[funky_bug]

15. I'm not going to equate

attacking the enemy, GWB, with attacking fellow Democrats.

[bearfartinthewoods]

20. well will you equate winning with winning?

you can't beat bush if you can't beat the others

[EXE619K]

17. I'm seriously looking at Clark.

One of the big reasons I firmly entrenched myself in the Dean camp is because of the simple truth....there needs to be change in the Democratic Party.

The "old guards" of the Democratic party have failed and continues to do so.

I understand why there are people leaving this party to the Greens. The Democratic Party has lost it's identity and have not addressed this issue and continues to disenfranchise the base.

In my opinion, this election is not just about kicking Bush out of the White House. I firmly believe that the party needs to finds it's identity and that's a lot more important to me than simply eliminating the bush Regime. If the Democratic party wants to win the hearts and minds of Independents like meself, they need to change.

It's been almost four- years comming since 2000....The "old guards" of the Democratic party have failed us in 2002.

The Dems need to change if they think of getting votes from me.

But, that's just my opinion.

[blm]

18. That's typical politics. Why overreact?

Clark's camp was making hay that Kerry was a Washington insider. Kerr's campy countered with the insider work that Clark performed. What's the BIG DEAL?

You really think there is no back and forth expected? Clark's camp expected it when they first played their Washington insider card. That's what campaigns do.

[BuelahWitch]

23. I'm a mirror version of you Wife!

:hi: Dean is my #1 but Clark is once again my second choice. If Clark is still in the race by the time my Caucus comes around, I'll support him after Dean. Let's hear it for the outsiders! WOOHOO!

[Lydia Leftcoast]

9. Given the way the Dean and Clark supporters have been

playing Mutually Assured Destruction on this board since last summer, I wonder if the candidates feel the same way about each other.

[FreeperSlayer]

13. ABB!

[11cents]

14. The Clinton vs. anti-Clinton thing was bogus

It was just a (not particularly smart, IMHO) political tactic that the Dean campaign deployed. Dean himself was very much a Clinton Democrat while he was governor, and 90% of the Dean supporters I've encountered were all about the Big Dog until the Dean campaign decided to run against *the notion* of the DLC. I have no idea if the Clark and Dean campaign could or would actually ally themselves in some fashion, there's no real ideological divide that would prevent them from doing so.

[Bombtrack]

19. Dean brings nothing to any swing state

including New Hampshire.

We need to keep him away from the presidential ticket if we are to win the general election

[ramapo]

24. Don't think so...

I don't believe Clark is interested in being #2. I don't think Dean would bring much to Clark.

Clark has been disappointing but he is a novice.

We'll see what happens over the next 10 days.

[snyttri]

25. Hillary Clinton, Al Gore and William Safire can broker a deal.

[Mobius]

28. With all due respect:

I will NEVER vote for Bush's fellow Scull and Bonesman, Kerry.