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Mark E. Smith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 01:20 PM
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George W. Bush Has Reduced The Right To Apologists For Torture
Surfed the tighty righty blogs this morning (they're just so vulnerable and sad these days), and I couldn't help but notice the one predominate theme running through them all: Torture, how it isn't as bad as everyone says it is, how other people have done it and nobody seems to complain about them, and generally blaming the whole mess on those who have embarrassed Bush and his henchmen by exposing it to the American people and the world.

I wonder if ever in their darkest and most secret dreams they ever would have believed that George W. Bush would someday reduce them to being little more than apologists for, and abettors of, torture.

Here's three laughable examples of just how desperate their attempts to defend and abet torture have become:

Clinton Appointed Judge Orders Release of Abu Ghraib Photos
http://www.pardonmyenglish.com/archives/2005/06/clinton_appoint.html

Pentagon: Detainees Committed Most Koran Abuse
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/6/4/102427.shtml

Aid and Comfort: How the ACLU and the Left Assist in the Al Qaeda Propaganda War
http://blogcritics.org/archives/2005/06/04/120753.php
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 01:26 PM
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1. I just hope that they get to personally experience it someday.
Then their apologies for torture can come from their own knowledge of it and not from third hand descriptions. If it's not so bad, then they really shouldn't mind should they?:eyes:

Thanks for reading the RW blogs so the rest of us don't have to.
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 01:27 PM
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2. Some right-wingers are honest about torture...
They agree with it. These aren't misguided or uninformed people--they're cruel, but nobody wants to say it out loud.
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 01:41 PM
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5. My definition of right-winger...
REQUIRES at least an implicit agreement with the use of torture. If their heroes are doing it, then they must cheer them on. It is just an integral part of the vile, criminal avarice that IS their philosophy.
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The Night Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 01:34 PM
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3. Wow! Those conservative blogs...
It doesn't get any more retarded than that.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 01:38 PM
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4. Didn't you watch the last season of 24? n/t
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distantearlywarning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 01:46 PM
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6. This is the #1 thing that disturbs me the most about the right wing.
I think I could have lived with most of the other stupid crap they say and do. But not this.

The "justification" they engage in about the torture thing is totally unacceptable. This one thing makes me believe that they are the bad guys.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 02:00 PM
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7. Nothing left to lose
wonder when some will wake up and
find themselves with nothing left
to lose.
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Mark E. Smith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 02:23 PM
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9. Some of them have to be in the denial phase by now.
But it is kind of amazing (in a sad sort of way) just how far down the hole many of the reactionary crowd have been willing to follow this guy.

People who initially believed that Bush would give them a moral and values-rich presidency now find themselves making bizarre and irrational excuses for the abusing and torturing of prisoners. Among other things.
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 02:28 PM
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10. We will never know...
because they will never acknowledge it.
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 02:13 PM
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8. Note the 'comments' in the first article.
All slam the blogger.
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Mark E. Smith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 01:22 PM
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11. Great Reply Up There Now
This comes from a guy named Paul:

"Folks, Aaron's viewpoint provides an example of regular people becoming unethical monsters as inspired by the acts of our government. The hazard of conducting a war of aggression (as opposed to one of offense) is that the troops and the population do not have a clear notion of a high moral ideal they are fighting for, as was the case in WWII for example. Thus, the war becomes simply a license to to kill, torture and imprison, much more like Vietnam. And before long, you've got regular people like Aaron, who do not benefit at all from the abuse conducted by our govt, actually defending that abuse. This is how the corruption of our govt trickles down to the American people."



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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 01:36 PM
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12. I thought the ACLU was busy trying to pull OxyRush's irons out
of the fire. They're bad, they're good. They're bad, they're good.

Flip-Flop. Flip-Flop. Flip-Flop.
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