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KaliTracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 12:13 AM
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I was looking for a source for when Powell called some of
Edited on Sun Jun-05-05 12:28 AM by KaliTracy
the information he was supposed to give to the United Nations "Bullshit" -- and found this site!

Indpendent Media TV
Under Reported


History of Deception to start wars
http://www.independent-media.tv/gtheme.cfm?ftheme_id=16


Particulary liked this article:
Case for war confected, say top US officials

November 09, 2003

By: Andrew Gumbel
Independent, The

http://www.independent-media.tv/item.cfm?fmedia_id=3628&fcategory_desc=Under%20Reported

An unprecedented array of US intelligence professionals, diplomats and former Pentagon officials have gone on record to lambast the Bush administration for its distortion of the case for war against Iraq. In their view, the very foundations of intelligence- gathering have been damaged in ways that could take years, even decades, to repair.
A new documentary film beginning to circulate in the United States features one powerful condemnation after another, from the sort of people who usually stay discreetly in the shadows - a former director of the CIA, two former assistant secretaries of defence, a former ambassador to Saudi Arabia and even the man who served as President Bush's Secretary of the Army until just a few months ago.

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.... ah found a reference to my original search: (on a different site)
Ashville Global Report
WORLD NEWS
No. 229, June 5-11, 2003
http://www.agrnews.org/issues/229/worldnews.html#us

US, UK ‘lied’ about Iraqi WMD, still none found

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US News and World Report magazine said the first draft of Powell’s UN speech was prepared for Powell by vice president Dick Cheney’s chief of staff, I. Lewis Libby, in late January.

According to the magazine, the draft contained such questionable material that Powell lost his temper, throwing several pages in the air and declaring, “I’m not reading this. This is bullshit.”

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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 12:17 AM
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1. Good Find! Why won't POWELL speak-out LOUDLY NOW!?!
He would be listened to by the masses, even if his hands are softly dirty. Many would listen to him big-time.

M.G. Is there 1 person up there "NOT" afraid of this gang!?!
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KaliTracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 12:24 AM
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4. He'd have to go on national television where people would trust the
commentator and it was aired live so the Administration couldn't shut it down.

Oprah?
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 12:18 AM
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2. I'm still waiting for Powell to pull a Richard Clark and tell all.
I firmly believe he knows he was used by this admin, and he's not a happy camper about it either!
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KaliTracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 12:22 AM
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3. but when? (I know you don't know the answer to that) -- I just can't
believe he would stay silent on this if he had things to tell. But -- if he was afraid of getting in trouble too....maybe he would. And who exactly would he go to to report/spill the beans -- perhaps the only way would be in a book -- and I believe that books written after you have been a part of the white house have to go to the white house for review....

unless he befriended a really maverick Mainstream reporter who knew how to do legwork after getting bits and pieces of a scoop...


oh, wait, journalists aren't allowed to do legwork anymore, right?
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 12:30 AM
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5. As far as I know, he still does speeches.
At Universities, business clubs, etc. If he spilled the beans at any of them, it would be all over the MSM instantly!

I don't know about that, has to be approved by the WH thing. I suspect that proto call, but I don't know that it's mandatory!
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KaliTracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 12:49 AM
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6. perhaps. It was something an Author on the Daily Show said -- I think it
was the Right Wign ex-senator....Christine Todd. The Author of It's My Party Too: The Battle for the Heart of the GOP and the Future of America

Whoever it was - worked in some capacity at the white house, and after the book was reviewed KEPT the censored pages (blacked out) in the book.

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KaliTracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 12:52 AM
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7. just found this...
http://slate.msn.com/id/2097995/

Who Vetted Clarke's Book?
How the White House decided which tidbits were classified.
By Brendan I. Koerner
Posted Tuesday, March 30, 2004, at 11:10 AM PT


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Any government employee who requires access to classified intelligence information must first sign a nondisclosure agreement, formally known as a Sensitive Compartmented Information Nondisclosure Statement. The agreement typically includes a clause that requires the employee to submit for review "any writing or other preparation in any form, including a work of fiction, that contains or purports to contain any SCI or description of activities that produce or relate to SCI." The review process, then, is solely intended to prevent the release of classified information—inadvertent or otherwise—into the public domain.

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If a former government employee violates his nondisclosure agreement by failing to submit a book for prepublication review, the Treasury Department can seize all proceeds connected to the book's sale. This precedent was set in the 1980 Supreme Court decision Snepp v. United States, which involved the 1977 Vietnam exposé Decent Interval. The case came about after author Frank Snepp, a former CIA operative, refused to submit his manuscript to the agency. The court ruled 6-3 against Snepp, ordering him to hand over all royalties and future gains from Decent Interval. Nearly two decades later, Snepp recounted his legal tussle with the CIA in Irreparable Harm.

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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 12:38 PM
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8. It doesn't say, but MOST non-disclosure agreements are for a
predetermined amount of time. i.e. for the period of five years. It is to protect information, but is assumed that after a certain period of time, the info would be so old, it wouldn't matter.

Sometimes the time limit is very long, as in the release of the Warren Report sealed data from the Kennedy assination investigation. If I remember right, the time limit was 75 years.
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