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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 01:20 AM
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Poll question: Are Republican Voters Traitors?
I'm conflicted about this one. On the one hand, I'd like to give them the benefit of the doubt that they're just ignorant and not conscious to the fact that they're aiding and abetting anti-American policies.

But then some of the Republicans I talk to are so aware of what they're doing, so full of hate, bigotry and darkness, that I can't think of them as anything else.

And I think that if people I know can see their way through the fog to the truth, why can't they?
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Pryderi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 01:27 AM
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1. Institute Jim Crow Laws For Republican Voters!!! Stupid, uninformed ppl
should not vote!
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Goldmund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 01:30 AM
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2. LMAO
:rofl:
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Goldmund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 01:30 AM
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3. Of course not.
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 01:30 AM
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4. Free the Press!
It's our only hope.
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 01:33 AM
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5. Absolutely not
hey, i think i'm right. but so do they
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 01:45 AM
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6. Shoot 'em all at dawn...
the ones that know what they're doing are plain evil and traitorous.

The ones that are just conned into it are too stupid to let breed, so we have to improve the gene pool.



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bornagainhuman Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 01:47 AM
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7. NO
The great thing about this country is you can be anything you want republican democrat libertarian socialist, and besides most of them don't know what is really going on and because of the mms they have no way to find out, and they have been told anybody who thinks the government is sneaky and is lying to people 98% of the time are conspiracy theorist and therefore nut jobs. They have been told their whole lives not to question authority so they don't and believe you shouldn't either.
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funflower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 01:51 AM
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8. You're talkin' 'bout my momma, pal. That's goin' toooo far.
Edited on Sun Jun-05-05 01:51 AM by funflower
:thumbsdown:
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LiberalVoice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 01:52 AM
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9. Their ignorance makes them traitors.
Having someone feed you their "truth" rather then finding it out for yourself due to lack of interest makes you a traitor and responsible for the reprecussions.
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 02:05 AM
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10. I'm so torn about this question today. Just to explore the option: Yes
Edited on Sun Jun-05-05 02:06 AM by BlueIris
YES. Big, fat, selfish, ignorant traitors. Especially if they voted for Bush KNOWING what a bigoted, misogynist, anti-family, anti-soldier, mendacious asshole he is.

Let's go with what my favorite blogger wants to do with them: Investigate the degree that supporters of Bush actively conspired to unravel the legal foundations of America, and if it's found that any of their motives were seditious? Try them thusly. If they are found guilty? Execute them. I could probably sleep at night after that.

This isn't to say that I condone executing people without first investigating whether or not they committed treason, or putting them on trial if "all" they did was vote for Bush. I want to nail his contributors, though. And the judges and other elected officials who condone his actions. Those people? I have no forgiveness for.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 04:43 AM
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11. I know what you mean, Placebo
I too would like to think it is sheer ignorance and brainwashing that causes people to vote against their own self-interests but the conservatives I know seem to hate certain people - blacks, gays, women - more than they love America.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 04:53 AM
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12. It's not a crime to be dumb, uninformed, mean, self-righteous, or greedy.
Did I miss any?
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 05:38 AM
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13. What about Nader voters? Are they also traitors?
They likewise know what they are voting "for."
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allemand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 06:34 AM
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14. Deluded, yes. Traitors? No. n/t
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 06:54 AM
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15. When they put the needs of party ahead of the needs of the country
Which alot of them seem to do, they are BY DEFINITION traitors.

When a guy like Voynavich can get up to piss & moan & cry about how horrible, inappropriate & unqualified a guy like Bolton is for his appointment - and then vote for him anyway, because thats what the PARTY wants.
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 08:12 AM
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16. The mere act of voting for republicans does not make them traitors
It's a ridiculous question.

The Bush apologists use the same twisted logic against us, because we vote against their boy.

There should be no equivocation about this.

If you want to find out where the act of treason lie, you should focus on actions by people that attempt to supplant the rule of law with a cult of personality.

No one is above the law. No ONE!

If you want to give republicans pause about their support for the illegal acts of a sitting politician, you should come hard and fast with overwhelming evidence that they are supporting criminals instead of the rule of law.

IF this hypothetical republican is a person of honor and your evidence is concrete, as an American who values the Constitution over partisanship they will be convinced that the criminality of our leadership must be corrected.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 08:49 AM
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17. no they have been duped...
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 09:38 AM
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18. They are just extremely fearful and gullible and they are people who live
life based on faiths and beliefs and avoid thinking at all costs. I don't think most are malicious.
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smartvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 09:52 AM
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20. A few, yes. The masses, no. Just gullible. nt
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 10:45 AM
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21. No
This is democracy. They have a right to be wrong.

Are Bush and his neoconservatives aides war criminals? Yes. Has Bush worked to subvert American democracy? Yes. Should Bush and his entire regime be removed from power? Yes. Should Bush and many who have served under him go to prison for crimes ranging from conflict of interest to war crimes? Yes.
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MojoXN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 10:52 AM
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22. It depends...
If you mean Republican voters, no, they're not traitors. Bush voters, on the other hand, are. Simple as that.

MojoXN
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markus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 11:03 AM
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23. No, their largely dupes
We don't punish people when they're cheated in scams. We go after and try to punish the scammers, and we try to get people their money back.

That's the way to approach the GOP. Yes, the core of the Republican party activists is ultimately a criminal conspiracy to divert public funds to their own enrichment.

The non-hardcode Republican voters are no different than the Enron employees who allowed their retirement to be entirely sunk into the pension fund.



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Mass_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 11:09 AM
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24. no
that simple. 62 million people voted for G.W in the last election, and its our job to dissuade them from voting republican next time. It isn't our job to call them names.
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kitkat65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 11:26 AM
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25. The road to hell...
is paved with good intentions.

I've been thinking about that expression a lot lately.

I don't know if the traitor label is a healthy one. I mean, go ahead and consider the question but realize that, at best, it's a sweeping generalization and, at worst, it only divides us further.

Why not frame the debate as what do we have in common as Americans and not political parties? What American ideals can we all agree upon and go from there?

Maybe it's time to be proactive rather than reactive.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 12:20 PM
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26. They're just chickens voting for Colonel Sanders
Stupid, deluded, ignorant, hateful... but not treasonous.
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