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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 07:48 PM
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How did the rumor that Kerry was going to speak about DSM today begin?
This seems to be a HUGE issue here today. I must have missed the original discussion though. Did he or his spokesfolk state it would be today? And is he really going to say anything at all? Did he say he was?
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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 07:50 PM
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1. I believe he was going to give a floor speech on an unspecified topic.
I did also hear this morning that it got delayed. Although, I can't be 100% sure about it :-P
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 07:51 PM
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2. He said he was going to. It was reported in a newspaper and
spread all over the Net. I'm sure someone can provide the link.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 07:52 PM
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3. So then he decides to be out of town instead!
:wtf:
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 07:53 PM
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4. He said he was going to bring it up when he got back to Washington
on Monday. He didn't say how he was going to bring it up. He didn't specify at all exactly. We got reports from his office that he was definitely going to bring it up on the Senate floor. But since he's not back in Washington yet for whatever reason, he didn't give the speech. But we're being told that he definitely will give one, most likely this week, possibly tomorrow.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 07:57 PM
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5. If I were going to approach this in a cynical manner,
I'd say it was a cheap shot to get some online publicity without acatually doing anything. But I guess time will tell.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 08:02 PM
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11. Time will tell indeed
Considering it was a small town newspaper that broke the story, it would be a damn funny way to get publicity. You'd think he'd have tried for the Globe at least.

That said, we are told he will definitely be giving a speech. We will have to see about the timing.
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eek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 07:58 PM
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6. DSM?
the mental disorder thing?

sorry but I have been out of the loop
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 07:59 PM
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8. LOL! Some on the other side might agree! :0)
It's the Downing Street Memo.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 07:59 PM
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9. Downing Street Minutes/Memo
The 2002 document that shows that Bush was wrapping intelligence around his policy and not the other way around.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 08:01 PM
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10. Nobody makes a major speech or action on Monday
Most Senators stay in their States and take care of their local affairs, so there is nothing surprising that he was not there today.

I do not know how he plans to do that. I have seen the same reports you read, but honestly, there are so many rumors on the Web that I trust very few people with things like that.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 07:58 PM
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7. Here is the exact quote from an interview in a MA newspaper
Edited on Mon Jun-06-05 08:08 PM by Mass

"When I go back (to Washington) on Monday, I am going to raise the issue," he said of the memo, which has not been disputed by either the British or American governments. "I think it's a stunning, unbelievably simple and understandable statement of the truth and a profoundly important document that raises stunning issues here at home. And it's amazing to me the way it escaped major media discussion. It's not being missed on the Internet, I can tell you that."


He never said that he would make a speech on the senate floor or how he would raise the question. He never said he would do that on Monday.

Unfortunately, the rumor was all over the Internet before it was too late.

This said, whoever know how the Senate works knows it is not the day for a major speech as most Senators are out of state, so, even if Kerry planned to make a speech on the Senate floor, he probably would not have made it Monday.

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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 08:04 PM
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12. News Max .....
..... a freeper paper they do the dirty work for Creative Response Concepts .....

This was a preemptive strike so as to make the issue John Kerry not the
DSM ......
Just like F 9/11 became about Michael Moore not about *.

Distract and attack ..... no lie is too big ..... when you have no morals and
stole 2 elections ..... this is just SOP
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 08:05 PM
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13. So he didn't really issue that statement?
I really am confused by this.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 08:09 PM
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14. I posted what he said just above.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 08:10 PM
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15. I was questioning what Botany said.
He said it was a rumor spread by Newsmax.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 08:12 PM
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16. Newsmax amplified the rumor and spoke about a speech and impeachment
Edited on Mon Jun-06-05 08:14 PM by Mass
both things Kerry did not speak about at all.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 08:15 PM
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18. Lol, OK. That does not surprise me a bit.
I hope Kerry speaks a lot more than once on the Senate floor. This needs to be blasted day and night by every friggin one of our elected officials.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 08:14 PM
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17. This thread:
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 08:16 PM
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20. Looks like the Monday thing was wrong.
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 08:15 PM
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19. Kerry's original statement...
Has been hugely distorted by the right wing spin machine.

As "Mass" has already posted the original quote, I won't post it again but here's a link to the entire article the quote is from - http://www.lightupthedarkness.org/blog/default.asp?view=plink&id=994

And here's a link to the conservative spin on his quote - http://www.lightupthedarkness.org/blog/?view=plink&id=1000

From an off the record source, I am told he will speak on the issue at some point soon. When I have more info I will post a heads up.
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