VIDEO of Olbermann crushing RW spin re Kerry's DSM Statement - sweet!

[Nothing Without Hope]

This short video clip is from Keith Olbermann's Monday night (June 6) broadcast, courtesy of our wonderful dzika. It not only very clearly lays out what John Kerry actually said last Wednesday about the Downing Street Minutes, it totally demolishes the RW spin, which over the weekend had suddenly mushroomed into a claim that Kerry was calling for impeachment. Amazingly, Keith makes the manufactured RW spin a part of the news story, which it actually is, and proceeds to crush the lies.

It's very, very sweet to see a TV newsman actually digging past the RW spin for the truth so vigorously. Don't miss it. The false claims, it turns out, originated from NewsMax (the "failed presidential candidate Kerry" lead-in was a clue :sarcasm: ) and Al-Jazeera.

Real Media Format:
http://www.edwardsdavid.com/media/olbermann/olbermann_kerry_downing_street_memo_050606-01.ram

Windows Media Format:
http://www.edwardsdavid.com/media/olbermann/olbermann_kerry_downing_street_memo_050606-01.wmv

http://www.edwardsdavid.com.nyud.net:8090/media/olbermann/images/olbermann_kerry_downing_street_memo_050606-01.jpg

And thanks again, dzika! :hi:

(Since people seem to be voting for this thread rather than its originator, I've edited to add the video links directly. The thread where they were initially posted in a reply (#43) contains good information and comments. It's here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1833065)

[Douglas Carpenter]

1. Let's keep the pressure on the Mainstream Media!

:bounce:


Just a reminder of some very, very important links:

To sign Congressman Conyers’ letter

http://www.johnconyers.campaignoffice.com


To put and keep pressure on the Mainstream Media:

http://www.downingstreetmemo.com/takeaction.html#awaken


http://www.afterdowningstreet.org


LISTEN TO THE RANDI RHODES SHOW-to keep up daily with what’s going on with--THE DOWNING STREET MEMO:

http://www.therandirhodesshow.com


Peace
O8)

[Rainscents]

13. Thanks for the post!!! And also, Welcome to DU!!!

:hi: We love newbies here!!!

[Nothing Without Hope]

17. Yes, I second that: Welcome to DU and thanks for all the good links!

:hi:

[Imagevision]

62. When ABC - CBS - NBC still refuse to cover DSM story it speaks

volumes of the "control and restraint" deeply installed in corporate media.

Freedom of the press, what a crock of sh*t! -- sooo... thats why we can't accept the Blair-Bush statement made yesterday as the official response regarding DSM -- How long did Watergate take before it got off the ground? --12-15 months? -- no surrender baby!!

[understandinglife]

2. Nominated. Thank you for posting this. And, thanks to dzika, once again.

Peace.



Emad Hajjaj, Al-Ghad Newspaper, Amman, Jordan



www.missionnotaccomplished.us - How ever long it takes, the day must come when tens of millions of caring individuals peacefully but persistently defy the dictator, deny the corporatists cash flow, and halt the evil being done in Iraq, and in all the other places the Bu$h neoconster regime is destroying civilization and the environment in the name of "America."

[bvar22]

3. Gee, I wonder if NewsMax...

...will offer a retraction and an apology???

[Nothing Without Hope]

4. Seen any flying pigs lately?

Nah, they're all at the trough gorging themselves. :(

[Nothing Without Hope]

5. Email Keith Olbermann to thank him for his upholding of the truth:

[e-mail]

Isn't it wonderful to actually see a TV newsman NOT taking the RW spin as gospel and daring to say it is not true? You KNOW he's going to be buried in freeper outrage, so let's counterbalance that with some well-deserved support. FEEDBACK MATTERS. If Keith can show his editor/bosses many enthusiastically supportive emails, he will have a stronger position for speaking the truth to power next time.

If we can get even PART of the truth about this Administration out to the US people, they are TOAST.

[fooj]

10. Truth is our most powerful weapon!

:patriot:

peace.

[acmejack]

31. Done!

KO is one of the very few voices of truth in the MSM. He is nothing short of heroic. I suspect he is being rewarded in his ratings as well.

[psychopomp]

57. done

n/t

[Triana]

6. Good for Olbermann...I posted here a few times...

...in response to the article that began "Failed presidential candidate John Kerry....." .... "impeachment" that Kerry NEVER said impeachment - never mentioned it. Conyers and Nader did, but not Kerry. This same article called the DSM an "impeachment memo".

I'm glad to see a person with INTEGRITY in the media pointing this out.

What a load of crap that article was. It just chaps my ass that shit like that is allowed to be publicized without question yet a legitimate story like the one from NEWSEEK (RE: Koran abuse) is slammed by the reich as untrue or flawed. Turns out that story IS TRUE. Source iffy (and undoubtedly a Rovian plant to discredit the story and newsweek) but the damn story was TRUE.

In stark contrast, the SHIT reported in that NEWSMAX article about Kerry was just that: PURE SHIT - and it was swallowed whole without question. Why people allow themselves to be spoon fed this type of defecate without question is beyond me.

I think it's about time all of us, Olbermann, Conyers and anyone else start calling the media on this "slinging shit and calling it 'news'" problem we seem to have here. Olbermann has actually given me some hope here. So has Conyers. Bless 'em both.

[Nothing Without Hope]

7. Did you see Conyers' blog on eight NYT articles showing the country

going to hell in a handbasket under GOP leadership? And all from one issue (June 6) of the paper.

http://www.conyersblog.us/archives/00000128.htm

That man must never sleep, bless him. His post on this went up just after 11 PM EST.

[Triana]

9. YES!

Posted it far and wide....emailed it, printed it.

[ahimsa]

11. FYI, Conyers didn't say the NYT is going...

to hell in a handbasket. He said you can see our country is going to hell in a handbasket by just a one day perusal of the NYT. I hope that gets corrected before we start being compared to Newsmax.com.

Unless I've misread Conyers blog, which I don't think I have, in which case, please feel free to correct me. ;)

[Nothing Without Hope]

14. You are CORRECT and I will fix what I wrote if I'm still within editing

time limit. I looked at what another DU thread said instead of what Conyers said himself, and the other DU thread is wrong. Moral to the story: GO TO THE SOURCE. Duh.

Here's Conyers' blog entry link:
http://www.conyersblog.us/archives/00000128.htm

He also links to the NYT articles he is citing.

[ahimsa]

16. Thanks..

for corroborating my interpretation. While I suspect we all think there's plenty of shoddy journalism (including in the NYT), and that's always worthy of discussion here - I don't think Conyers needs us to distract from the point he was trying to make - that would be Rove's job! :eyes:

[Nothing Without Hope]

20. So true. And there is no lack of genuine shoddy NYT journalism. Here's

a recent example, where a huge NYT article in effect GLAMORIZES the horrible illegal CIA practice of "extraordinary rendition," in which people are kidnapped and whisked away to countries where torture and disappearances are simpler to arrange. This one really infuriated me:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=1821261#
Thread title: "CIA's EXTRAORDINARY RENDITION finally comes to the NY Times - sort of"

[kerrygoddess]

8. Kudos to Olbermann

Kudos to Olbermann for speaking out, but this was first debunked on LUTD on Friday - http://www.lightupthedarkness.org/blog/?view=plink&id=1000

Thanks for the links to the Olbermann video. I'm really glad he spoke up, I hope more will follow suit in situations like this and do so quicker!

[Nothing Without Hope]

12. Keith Olbermann was NOT THERE on Friday, there was a guest host. Then

the weekend intervened. I'm hoping that the next time this happens, it's on a day when he can rebut it on his show more quickly. In the meantime, of course, the other corporate news media spokespeople let the RW spin on unimpeded.

Keith addressed this issue as soon as he could. Too bad he's the ONLY corporate media newsperson who did, and he couldn't do it any earler.

[kerrygoddess]

18. I hope so too!

I also hope that left-wingers will learn from this mess not to quote the damned right-wing sources with crap like. I can't begin to count how many left-wing blogs and forums helped to spread the "impeachment" meme!

[Nothing Without Hope]

19. yes, that's a lesson that seems to be fogotten: GO TO THE SOURCE

FOR THE TRUTH. Rumors, spin, and shoddy or deliberately misleading reports abound. We know it. And yet when an exciting rumor comes, off go too many of us.

It happened with the Edwards/Biden/Dean incident too. Edwards put out a statement on this (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1833416), but a lot of divisive damage has been done already. Many DU threads, and many people who still believe the false rumors.

For this Kerry story that Keith debunked, so many people are hoping that impeachment proceedings really will start, they are too willing to believe the rumor.

[Rainscents]

15. I love Keith Olbermann... he is only true MSM Journalist left.

[Nothing Without Hope]

25. You won't get an argument on that from me!

I do think we should email him to express support for stories like this. It gives him some leverage with his editors/bosses when he wants to push to tell more truth and with less poof. Besides, he needs cheering and support in any case - he's in a pressure cooker and telling the truth to power is not a safe career path these days. Plus, he needs to hear that it does make a difference. It's got to be extremely frustrating for him, but he keeps working at it.

His email address: [e-mail]

[orleans]

21. way to go, keith!

would you mind telling the story again tomorrow night. maybe with a bit more detail. i must have missed it tonight. (i'm always off on mondays)

:evilgrin:

[Nothing Without Hope]

23. Check out this BBC DOCUMENTARY on the Downing Street Minutes

Until we can get Keith to make his muckraking of RW spin on important news stories a nightly habit, here's a fine substitute. It is not to be missed, but don't look at it just before you want to sleep peacefully:

http://www.overcast.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/warofterror/iraqtonytruth.htm
Title: " Iraq, Tony & the Truth

Recorded from original transmission, BBC 1, Sunday, 20 March 2005, 22:15 GMT, available in Real Media and Windows Media formats.

[truthisfreedom]

22. bwaha haha haha hahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

woohoo! score! al-jezeera is now a right-wing tool! woohoo!

i hope they're sitting and spinning on this in freeperland. they rely on al-jezeera for their liberal slant?

freeping fools! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!

[Nothing Without Hope]

36. Yes, the irony is truly delicious. And look at what a freeper wrote at

Conyers' blog in response to my post about this video and the debunking of the impeachment meme:

http://www.conyersblog.us/archives/00000128.htm#comments (comment #15)

Nothing without hope:

In case you missed it, Keith Olbermann (among others last night) stated that it was first Al Jazeera that reported that Kerry was going to bring up impeachment and then Newsmax reporting on what AL Jazeera was saying.

Your problem is with Al Jazeera and what Kerry did, or did not, tell them; not with "right wing" news or with Newsmax.

I suggest you contact Al Jazeera and beg them to act more responsibly.

Talk about skewed thinking! We're supposed to address NewsMax's spin by begging Al Jazeera to be more accurate? I thought you guys might enjoy this one.

[TexasLawyer]

47. Bush apologists really don't have a leg to stand on

They can't do much more than thrash around and scream slogans like "liberal agenda", "discredited", "Al Jazeera", "hate America" and the like.

Too bad, so sad... (for them).

[Nothing Without Hope]

24. More on Kerry's future DSM speech timing in this thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3796743
Thread title: "Kerry DSM speech NOT happening today according to his Washington Office."

[kerrygoddess]

26. On LUTD

Olbermann Debunks Right-Wing Spin on Kerry’s Downing Street Memo Statement
7 June 2005


Keith Olbermann aired a brief debunking tonight on the conservative spin on John Kerry’s Downing Street Memo statement last week in the Standard Times, which Ron posted here last Thursday. Newsmax picked up the story early Friday morning and twisted it into a claim that Kerry would call for impeachment. The Conservative Voice quickly rallied to the right-wing spin machine and posted their version, which Ron debunked here first on Friday.

Watch Keith Olbermann’s debunking here: Real Media Format or Windows Media Format

Spin, Spin, Spin and How the Left Helps the Right…

Most disturbing in this classic case of spin is how the left-wing helped the right-wing in perpetuating these untruths. In his statement to the Standard Times, Kerry said that the Downing Street Memo, though not being discussed by the media, had not been missed by the internet. No truer words could have been spoken by Senator Kerry, as the internet took off with his statement to the Standard Times, and blogs and forums, right and left had a heyday with their own versions of the statement.


More & Links - http://www.lightupthedarkness.org/blog/default.asp?view=plink&id=1027

[Nothing Without Hope]

27. Thank you for adding this very important info and link.

Let this incident be ANOTHER lesson to us all on how NOT to run after unsubstantiated rumors. Guess we need the equivalent of this little guy :spank: to keep us reminded sometimes!

[bluedonkey]

28. Originated at Aljazeera and Newsmax??

Isn't that special?
Now how did this come about!Two newsagencies on the opposite site of the spectrum!What do these two have in common?
Where's my tinfoil?

[dalloway]

29. way to go KO!

:yourock:

[flpoljunkie]

30. Olberman did a segment on RNC Chairman Ken Mehlman's MTP appearance

where he answered almost every question with the words, "I respectfully disagree..."

Thanks, Keith for highlighting Mehlman's hapless answers to Russert's questions. No one else would have the guts to do it in today's craven media culture.

[OneTwentyoNine]

32. WHAT?? Newsmax lied about Kerry?? Damn...I'm,I'm shocked...

LOL,Kerry should have said that since Newsmax wants impeachment proceedings brought against Bush I guess we should move forward.

[JNelson6563]

33. There he goes again!

Telling it like it is. :toast:

Julie

[tk2kewl]

34. "...and if this detail is still relevant in these superheated political

times, the story is not true"

Well said Keith!

Imagine, someone actually being concerned with the truth.

[Nothing Without Hope]

35. Here's the link to the Conservative Voice post pushing the false rumor

that Kerry was going for impeachment. This post has the title "Kerry To Push For Bush Impeachment":
http://www.theconservativevoice.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=6057

Moral to all of us - before believing a rumor posted at a questionable site, GO TO A RELIABLE SOURCE AND GET CONFIRMATION. In these days of news spin, finding the truth requires some discipline and effort. NewsMax and the other sites which went with the rumor, both left- and right-wing, didn't bother. The result is confusion and distortion which is difficult to clear up after the fact.

Despite Keith Olbermann's debunking yesterday, I'm sure a lot of people will continue to talk about how Kerry "will call for impeachment."

[Nothing Without Hope]

37. Wash Post says Downing St Memo story won't die:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=1835004#1835149

This is good to hear. Now, if more newswriters and -casters join Keith in trying to get at the TRUTH for a change, maybe these criminals who have stolen our country and traumatized the world for their looting schemes will FINALLY start to be held accountable. Once their lies begin to unravel, I think the truth movement will pick up momentum. People are starved for it, and once their culpability in one horrible scandal is demonstrated, there will be less resistance to seeing what they have done in others.

[kittenpants]

38. I love you KO!

I wish I got MSRNC just so I could watch Keith. The vacant robot Paula Zahn is on CNN in his time slot.:puke:

[pazarus]

39. Nice, but I wouldn't mind if he WAS calling for impeachment. eom

[Nothing Without Hope]

40. Help get the truth out: DOWNLOADABLE DSM FLYERS AND POSTERS

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=106x16193

What a good idea - and someone else has already got them all ready to download and use!

[Imagevision]

41. WE shouldn't allow the "memo" story to go unanswered

[Nothing Without Hope]

42. Be sure to read the freeper comment on this false rumor here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=1834390&mesg_id=1835111

It's too funny! ( We're supposed to WHAT?)

[Nothing Without Hope]

43. Raw Story: Senator KENNEDY speaks out on the Downing St Minutes!

http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Kennedy_speaks_out_on_Downing_Street_Memo_Twisted_intelligence_Distorted_f_0607.html

[Dr Fate]

45. A website is NOT speaking out. Swingvoters will never see it.

Who is he 'speaking out" to in this format? The base? Well, WE already know about it.

Going in front of the TV cameras and saying to their faces, where EVERYONE hears it is speaking out.

[Nothing Without Hope]

48. This is a released statement. I assume the speaking in front of cameras

will come.

[Dr Fate]

49. I kind of doubt it.

That is my instinct at this point.

[Spectral]

44. Wow! I am so glad that KO traced down the lie!

I was so happy to watch this video. Thank you.

[Imagevision]

51. I almost wonder if "they're throwing us Olberman as a token bone

I hope Keith stays with this until it brings about an independant investigation!

[Dr Fate]

46. I wish Kerry WOULD make an outrageous statement.

At least "the memo" would be discussed more.

[Nothing Without Hope]

50. This is not the first time Olbermann has spoken about the DSM:

Here is VIDEO CLIP from a couple of weeks back when he introduced the DSM and had Rep. Slaughter on for an interview:

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2005/05/16.html#a2974

[Imagevision]

56. Keith may start the ball rolling on this "Downing memo" issue

as far as corporate media recognizing the beginning of Bush's downfall...

[Nothing Without Hope]

59. Begala also broke the story May 13 on CNN/Crossfire - watch VIDEO CLIP:

This VIDEO CLIP is short but powerful - Begala was clearly outraged at the DSM's contents and makes no bones about it. His emotions are obvious and honest:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1782122

But that was before the apparent order for suppression on this topic came down from the WH. But Begala should have credit for his honesty and courage in what he said on Crossfire.

http://www.edwardsdavid.com.nyud.net:8090/images/cnn_crossfire_uk_memo_intelligence_fixed_050513-01.jpg

[Pacifist Patriot]

52. I remain amazed that his lone voice is allowed to continue.

Thank you Keith. Keep up the good work!

[Nothing Without Hope]

54. Please consider emailing your thanks to him. It might give some extra

flexibility from his bosses/editors to continue telling the serious truth if he gets enough supportive email when he does.

[e-mail]

Feedback matters.

[Pacifist Patriot]

58. Constantly!

[Catherine Vincent]

53. Yes, Dzika is wonderful.

:-)

[bleever]

55. Rec'd, and...BTW, Hope:

:yourock:

Thanks for your work, for your spirit, and just thanks!

:hi:

[Nothing Without Hope]

60. Thank you, bleever

I like your work and spirit too - I DU BELIEVE. The stakes are far too high for the spoiled luxury of cynicism, and it's something I work hard to avoid in any case. At times it's so hard to avoid slipping down that dark, too-easy slope, and then the support of the DU community and my friends here in particular are a great help.

Together we are stronger in every way. The truth and people's hopes are on OUR side, and we WILL prevail over the criminals.
:grouphug:

And you've made me laugh out loud on those KOEB threads so many times, with that off-the-wall, whimsical - but never malicious - humor. In addition to your "serious" work, thank you so much for sharing that imaginative whimsy and the helpless laughter it causes.
:pals:

[Nothing Without Hope]

61. Kick for those who haven't seen this. Good links in the comment thread

too.

[Nothing Without Hope]

63. one more kick n/t

[Nothing Without Hope]

64. Keith Olbermann BLOGS on the Kerry/DSM incident, makes good points:

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/8085423/#050607a
June 7, 2005 | 9:15 a.m. ET

Kerry on impeachment (Keith Olbermann)

(snip)

The words of the Democrats' 2004 standard-bearer?: "When I go back (to Washington) on Monday, I am going to raise the issue. I think (the memo) is a stunning, unbelievably simple and understandable statement of the truth..."

(snip)

By Saturday, those quotes, and the original New Bedford story, had been transmuted by a series of foreign and conservative websites into an article that included the line: "Failed presidential candidate Kerry advised that he will begin the presentation of his case for President Bush's impeachment to Congress, on Monday."

Blogs and websites pulsated with the news: Kerry was going to call for the impeachment of President Bush! My inbox pulsated with the missives of angry conservatives ("you're covering up Kerry's traitorous comment") and angry liberals ("corporate lapdog! Why didn't you cover this? Do your job!").

Once again, the first law of the Non-Mainstream Media was being ignored. Be suspicious of everything you read on the internet, not just those things with which you most agree, or about which you live in the greatest fear.

(snip)

Keith points out the striking irony of venues at opposite ends of the political spectrum - Al Jazeera and NewMax and Conservative Voice - ALL pushing a false rumor. One group WANTED it to be true and the other WANTED it to be false. Both were very excited and both were wrong.