Did Kerry "raise the issue" of Downing Street Memo/Minutes

[orleans]

when he got back to washington monday? like he said he was going to?

i can't find a thing on google about it.

and if he did: who exactly did he "raise the issue" to?

and did it get raised any higher than something like: "so did you hear about the memo? Yeah i heard about it. yeah, me too."

[Freedomfried]

1. I'm waiting to hear something also....

But I'm not holding my breath

[LightningFlash]

2. Kerry apparently did not do it.

Just as well for me. Let Conyers and the others raise the issue, they know what to do with it and they aren't backing down. A whole lot more than I can say for Kerry who has been very aloof and hasn't even mentioned anything about the fraud filled 2004 elections...

[LittleClarkie]

7. "hasn't even mentioned anything about the fraud filled 2004 elections"

On November 19th, in the video link he emailed to everyone, where he said he would present an election reform bill, because it was a travesty that we still can't trust the process. And he did, with Clinton, Boxer and some others co-sponsoring.

On Martin Luther King Day. Got blasted for it too, for doing it on THAT day.

Not to mention that his lawyer in Ohio, Don McTigue, is on the case with a lawsuit still pending. It's being stymied, of course. But then that's to be expected with Repubs in charge.

You were saying...

[JRob]

20. Talk, Talk, Talk, Talk, Talk, Talk, Talk, Talk, Talk, Talk...

Personally I'm tired of talk. How about some results!

With everything out there that could be used to implicate BushCo on... well pick one, it's time to start separating the "doers" from the "do nothings" and doing "something" goes beyond talk.

[Nothing Without Hope]

3. No, and he never said he would do it Monday. Here are two threads

that clarify everything:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3796743
Thread title: "Kerry DSM speech NOT happening today according to his Washington Office."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1834390
Thread title: "VIDEO of Olbermann crushing RW spin re Kerry's DSM Statement - sweet!"

Some very good information and links in the replies to the second thread - be sure to read through all of it.

[orleans]

4. uh....yes he did

""When I go back (to Washington) on Monday, I am going to raise the issue," he said of the memo, which has not been disputed by either the British or American governments. "I think it's a stunning, unbelievably simple and understandable statement of the truth and a profoundly important document that raises stunning issues here at home. And it's amazing to me the way it escaped major media discussion. It's not being missed on the Internet, I can tell you that." "

http://www.southcoasttoday.com/daily/06-05/06-02-05/a01lo167.htm

apparently he met with the editoral board of the paper:

"In a swing through SouthCoast, the 2004 Democratic presidential nominee attacked the priorities of the Republican Party and President Bush, elaborating on what they are sacrificing -- health care for children, infrastructure, Social Security -- in the pursuit of tax cuts.
"The Holy Grail of the Republican Party is a tax cut, whether or not we need it," he said in a meeting with The Standard-Times editorial board."

http://www.southcoasttoday.com/daily/06-05/06-02-05/a01lo167.htm

so, uhhhh, yes he did.

so whoever called his office clarified what would happen--as i said in another post, kerry probably did "raise the issue" monday by talking to kennedy and they decided that kennedy should take it public so kerry doesn't sound like sour grapes to republicans.

[Nothing Without Hope]

13. I guess it's parsing the wording and its interpretation

To me, when he said "When I go back on Monday" it didn't mean that he would give a speech or some other major deal on that same day, only that it will happen after he goes back. What his intentions were when he made that statement I don't know, but that's how it reads to me. It's possible that he and Kennedy discussed it and Kennedy's statement was chosen to the the first.

In any case, I think this point will become moot soon.

[LittleClarkie]

16. Since folks are so hungry for something, anything

they just jumped on that comment and ran with it, assuming "address" meant "major speech" because that's what they wanted. Even so, his office says there will indeed be a speech at some point, hopefully soon.

Why do you think the point will be moot? Because it's getting publicity without him, or because he will speak soon?

[Nothing Without Hope]

17. When I wrote it my thought was that he would speak soon on this.

I still believe that he will, but he won't be the only one. So the point of Monday or not-Monday will become doubly moot.

[LittleClarkie]

5. He didn't make it back into town on Monday

woulda been hard to "raise the issue" from wherever.

He said he would bring it up. Didn't say how. His office said he would give a speech. Didn't say when. I would suspect after he has a little chat with Blair, myself, tomorrow at the breakfast that the Foreign Relations Committee with be having with the man from across the pond.

That meal should be interesting, what with Feingold saying he's going to broach the subject with Blair, and Kerry being there and all. Add in Kennedy and Conyers, and we could have a REAL party.

[FreedomAngel82]

14. Get some popcorn out

Definitley a party. :popcorn: I can't wait to hear how that meeting goes. Will any republicans be there to defend Blair? I hope not.

[unfrigginreal]

6. Who cares?

But to answer your question, if the wind was blowing from the right direction he did, otherwise he was unavoidably detained.

[LittleClarkie]

8. Dat you

Karl?

Mmmm, koolade.

[unfrigginreal]

9. Hmm?

It's your way or the GOP way, huh? Well, you're wrong sherlock, it's because I DON'T drink the koolade that I can see a phony from a mile away.

[LittleClarkie]

10. Yeah, that was a nice weathervane ad they put out during the campaign

wasn't it.

Perhaps some on the left and some on the right who seem to agree on this issue should go bowling some time.

And I, on the other hand, after doing more than glancing, know a GOOD man when I see one.

I wasn't too damn fond of the guy last May either. But I gave him a good hard look. That's what you have to do. He takes a little while to "get". But make no mistake. He is a good man. If you see a phony, it may be perhaps because you never looked hard enough.

So, did you support Kerry before you stopped supporting him? Or did you perhaps vote third party in the last election?

[unfrigginreal]

12. I supported him all the way through

but I never believed in him.

[FreedomAngel82]

15. See you have to get

that in the orginial article where Kerry mentioned the minutes he didn't say HOW he was going to do it. And shit happens. So what if he doesn't raise it up right away. Other people are doing it. Are you going to call Feingold an opportunist too? Since it's thought he's going to run in 2008 and all....

[orleans]

11. (or packing up early to go to another one of arnold's

christmas parties?)

on edit: i guess i'm still a wee bit resentful that he ditched out on us so f*cking soon.

[paineinthearse]

18. Have you asked your question in the Kerry group?

If any DU'ers know, they would.

[blm]

19. Kerry attacked the media's silence on DSM and NOW they're covering it.

Would they have done that if Kerry hadn't pointed out how they refused to cover it?

Kerry also said he'd raise it as an issue when in DC when he returned. Now other Senators ARE beginning to talk about it.

I expect there is more to come and likely will be delivered soon. The Senate is involved in the Brown judicial nomination right now, and I have no doubt Kerry will bring this up shortly after the Brown vote.

[blm]

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