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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 08:42 AM
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Wag the Dog. I'm looking for TRUTH
Were Clinton's so-called "Wag the Dog" raids worthless and only politically motivated?

I went on Google to do research and found a preponderance of right wing articles. I'm convinced Google has gone on the dark side, at least on this subject. Does anyone have a definitive piece on those raids?
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 09:05 AM
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1. Right wingers were the ones with bugs up their asses
about anything Clinton did, plus there was and still is a bias toward publishing only the right wing side of things, so of course you're going to find mostly right wing articles on the bombing raids. I don't know what the politics of Google management might be, but that's the reason for all the rightwingnuttery.

At the time, sensible people realized that the bombing of Iraq took out the last remaining infrastructure capable of manufacturing chemical weapons. The bombing raid against Al Qaeda camps in Afghanistan should speak for itself. The bombing of the Sudanese pharmy factory was based on the fact that reagents for pharmaceuticals can possibly be used for the manufacture of chemical weapons and bin Laden owned the plant. It later turned out that all they manufactured there was pharmaceuticals. Oddly enough, aspirin wasn't one of them. The anti American and delusional Clinton-bashing and drug addled Lamebawl and bin Laden himself were the only people calling it an aspirin factory. The right wing nuts dutifully took up the lie.

Given the incredible bias in the mass media, I'm not surprised all you're finding are right wing articles critical of Clinton. That's about all there were at the time.
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 09:09 AM
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2. I highly recomend...
reading The age of Sacred Terror by Daniel Benjamin &Steven Simon and of course My life By William Clinton
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 09:28 AM
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3. The Pharma Plant was owned by the bin Mahfouz, heavy UBL supporters
Edited on Tue Jun-07-05 03:28 PM by Skinner
There's a wensite that has lots of related articles that provide the dots that tie together the Saudi 9/11 financiers, Republican activists and law firms, with BCCI and related scandals. The so-called wag-the-dog cruise missile attack was a shot across the bow of these elements by the Clinton Administration in 1998. See, www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=20065 The site is a bit rightist, perhaps, but the board is not and a lot of the material is useful and from MSM sources.

Saudi Money Aiding Terrorist bin Laden

USA Today
By Jack Kelley
October 28, 1999

WASHINGTON - More than a year after the U.S. Embassy bombings in East Africa, prominent businessmen in Saudi Arabia continue to transfer tens of millions of dollars to bank accounts linked to indicted terrorist Osama bin Laden, senior U.S. intelligence officials told USA TODAY.

The money transfers, which began more than five years ago, have been used to finance several terrorist acts by bin Laden, including the attempted assassination in 1995 of Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak in Ethiopia, the officials said.

<SNIP>

According to a Saudi government audit acquired by U.S. intelligence, five of Saudi Arabia's top businessmen ordered the National Commercial Bank (NCB), the kingdom's largest, to transfer personal funds, along with $3 million diverted from a Saudi pension fund, to New York and London banks.

The money was deposited into the accounts of Islamic charities, including Islamic Relief and Blessed Relief, that serve as fronts for bin Laden.





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The White House Connection: Saudi `Agents' Close Bush Friends

Boston Herald.com
By Maggie Mulvihill, Jonathan Wells and Jack Meyers
Source Article
Tuesday, December 11, 2001

A powerful Washington, D.C., law firm with unusually close ties to the White House has earned hefty fees representing controversial Saudi billionaires as well as a Texas-based Islamic charity fingered last week as a terrorist front.

The influential law firm of Akin, Gump, Strauss, Hauer & Feld has represented three wealthy Saudi businessmen - Khalid bin Mahfouz, Mohammed Hussein Al-Amoudi and Salah Idris - who have been scrutinized by U.S. authorities for possible involvement in financing Osama bin Laden and his terrorist network.

In addition, Akin, Gump currently represents the largest Islamic charity in the United States, Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development in Richmond, Texas.

<SNIP>

EDITED BY ADMIN: COPYRIGHT
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 02:23 PM
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7. leveymg
Per DU copyright rules
please post only four
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Spectral Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 02:52 PM
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9. leveymg, I have a question
"The so-called wag-the-dog cruise missile attack was a shot across the bow of these elements by the Clinton Administration in 1998."

I'm confused about what you mean here.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 09:47 AM
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4. see what oneil and clark say about it
they had a handle on things at that time.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 01:52 PM
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5. O'Neill?
I know Dick Clarke was part of the Clinton admin at that time but I thought Paul O'Neill was a private citizen before his stint with the Bush admin. Maybe I'm wrong. I should read his book. I did read Clarke's and I should probably go back and read the part about the Wag the Dog incident a little more closely.

Thanks!:hi:
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 02:16 PM
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6. john oneil i believe. i went blank on his first
Edited on Tue Jun-07-05 02:46 PM by seabeyond
name, why i just put last. but i think it is john oneil. he was fbi. it seems like one of the two had good information on that. oneil was working ny fbi and the cole bombing. he also is hte one that left the fbi and was security in the towers. i watched a really long segmented movie on him that was just kick ass
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 02:39 PM
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8. Yes! I remember reading about him in Clarke's book
It was very moving. Clarke's book remains the best I've seen on the real war against terror, not this Bush crap.

Clarke is great when he goes on GMA to analyze terrorism-related events. Smart guy. Clinton musta loved him.
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cestpaspossible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 03:15 PM
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10. Good Old Shoe
daddy had a hound dog used to call him blue
he followed me around, used to stick to me like glue
and his favorite thing to play with, used to be that good old shoe

good old shoe good old shoe whatever road you're walking he will get you through
good old shoe good old shoe stand up straight and tall the way he taught you to
and you might even get to heaven with the soul of a good old shoe

well I wish I had a woman, who was half as good and true
to keep me outta trouble the way you used to do
someone I can depend on, just like my good old shoe

good old shoe good old shoe whatever road you're walking he will get you through
good old shoe good old shoe stand up straight and tall the way he taught you to
and you might even get to heaven with the soul of a good old shoe
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 03:36 PM
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11. Let's put it this way
At the time, the Republicans screamed "wag the dog" everytime Clinton took action.

Now they scream he didn't take enough actions.

Oh those wacky republicans!
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 07:57 PM
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12. thank you wyldwewolf
I appreciate your remarks.

THis has been a tough thing to nail down. I do have Clinton's bio and also Hillary's, but so much I have found on Google is all right wing. I am trying to build a notebook of Repubuke lies and this is one I want to reveal: their lies about the air strikes that Clinton took to help us with our safety against terrorism.

Thanks to everyone who responded to my post. I have taken down notes!

I am adding to my Truth Portfolio of documents. Anything anybody wants to add is welcome, if you have a website or a document you know is out there.

We will overcome!
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