WTF is Bill Richardson saying? "keep your powder dry"?

[PretzelWarrior]

my God, the 'establishment' Dems make me almost as sick as the moderate GOP like Voin-o-vich who could have locked down Bolton in committee but now weeps about the idea of him at the U.N. like he didn't have a f*cking thing to do with it.

Now we have Governor Bill Richardson distancing himself from Howard Dean's remarks and saying we supporters should "keep our powder dry cuz we have 3 and a half more years."

Excuse me. But WTF? We have less than A YEAR before we are at the beginning of MIDTERM election season. The work is NOW. The message must get out NOW>

oyy..I hate it when it seems like Noam Chomsky is right and the whole Dem/Repuke thing is a charade.

http://wireservice.wired.com/wired/story.asp?section=Breaking&storyId=1045519&tw=wn_wire_story

[okieinpain]

1. I'm begininng to wonder. I'm really begininng to wonder.

[ChiciB1]

2. I Had Been A Big Supporter of Richardson....

but now, screw him. What is happening in America??? I'm REALLY getting scared.

Where once I thought protest would be beneficial, now it seems we are out here alone. Even our own can't find it within themselves to stand up for us.

I need to take some time to think this all out. Who do we turn to. A third party won't get off the ground, Geez we can't even get the Democratic leaders to take a stand for "we the people"!

Maybe I'll just stop trying, not something I ever thought I would entertain. But why are we beating our heads against a wall. We are being railroaded and any hope I've had is waning fast!

[slor]

3. I will translate...

his statement. "Keep the powder dry...wait until the right-wing thugs have infiltrated our lines and have plunged their bayonets deep into our bloated corporate bellies. Then we will begin to fight back!".

My response to him: I stand with Dean!

[rogue emissary]

4. "He did better than Biden or Edwards"

PretzelWarrior wrote:

Now we have Governor Bill Richardson distancing himself from Howard Dean's remarks and saying we supporters should "keep our powder dry cuz we have 3 and a half more years.

I read it as he was talking about his own presidential possibility, and not to rush to the conclusion he was running.

From the same article:
Richardson has been mentioned as a possible 2008 presidential candidate, but he played down any speculation during his foray to New Hampshire, site of the first presidential primary.

"My message to voters is keep your powder dry. We've still got 3 1/2 years," he said.

I prefer his response to what's came out of Biden and Edwards.
"I believe Governor Dean is a good chairman. He's doing a good job,"
"Nobody's error-free. I wouldn't have made the comments he did."

[billbuckhead]

5. There's a tension between it being a charade and it being dissent

There is a certain intelligence about picking your spots. Howard Dean is no Bill Clinton.

[PretzelWarrior]

7. so what? we don't need another Bill Clinton

we need a Howard Dean and some real Democrats to step up and yank this boat around back to the correct direction.

People are afraid of their shadows.

When our government is blasting people's doors down as they try to eat a meal as a family in Iraq or hang a guy in Afghanistan from the ceiling and beat him until he dies...I'm not too worried about Dean choosing every occasion as the RIGHT occasion to blast these evil power mongers in Washington.

[Cha]

12. No, Dean doesn't

screw around on his wife.

[PretzelWarrior]

6. yeah....I'm not bugged that he provided no diplomatic words

re: stating he still appreciates what Howard Dean is doing...but COME ON. With the beat down the Dems got in 2002 and 2004, how can any responsible Dem leader talk about "pacing ourselves" or kind of slowly warming up to an attack on these people.

Every day that goes by in which these people are in office is an affront to me as a sentient being let alone as an intellectual human.

Every day that goes by in which these GOP scam artists are in WH and control congress is like a giant crime in my book.

I won't abide it. This is how many others who feel robbed 3 election cycles in a row are reacting. We need to hit and hit and hit. The war could be over tomorrow or the war could take 3 years or 5. But we've got to destroy their lies and crimes with truth and strength.

POWER TO THE PEOPLE!

[rogue emissary]

8. "Are you mad that he's warning not to start backing him in 08?"

I must be completely missing something in this article.

[Zen Democrat]

9. I don't think the WHOLE thing is a charade --- just almost all of it.

There are a few mavericks who have conviction. Let's see, Paul Wellstone ... oops, they killed him, right?

I like Leahy most of the time ... but then sometimes he caves with the rest of them. Kennedy is pretty good 90% of the time. As is Boxer. But for the most part we have Joe Bidens and Joe Liebermans and Chuck Schumers who don't appear to believe anything consistently.

I'm for a little more passion in our politics, and a little less listening to K Street and "advisors" like Bob Shrum.

[applegrove]

10. I think since the GOP has ripped the face off of all Dems in the last

two decades Richardson means: not to do anything that would make a great campaign add. For the repukes. I don't think the Dean could use what he said in the election to help Dems.

Why would we give them ammunition?

Think is how do you build up the party if you don't talk to the people in any real grass-roots way?

[Gold Metal Flake]

11. There is NO WAY to defeat *co and th Neocons without defeating corporatism

That means the party is over for a whole lot of fukkers on the teat.

Moderates in power means Neocon resurgence soon afterward.

Richardson wants things to come back a bit, like in the 90s. But, he has no vision beyond that. It's not a vision of change, it's a vision of a small respite before getting our asses kicked again.

[paulk]

13. WTF are YOU saying?

did I read the same article?

All Richardson said was that Dean is doing a good job, but that he (Richardson) wouldn't have made the comments Dean did. The "keep your powder dry" comment clearly is about his own presidential aspirations.

It's quite a leap from there to Noam Chomsky.