If Dean is forced out will you go with him?

[mrgorth]

I still think that this is all planned out BUT, if the appeasers were worried about what would happen if Dean didn't get the chair gig they should really be worried about what happens if Dean is forced out.

[Carolab]

1. YES I WILL LEAVE THE PARTY.

He is the ONLY reason I became involved at all. If he goes, I go.

STRAIGHT to the Greens.

[xynthee]

2. That'll be it for me!

I can't believe I haven't left already!

[nadinbrzezinski]

3. Yes

[Deep13]

4. and go where?

Dean is the lawfully elected DNC chairman. He has broadbased support among people who are sick of losing elections. He is not going to get "forced out."

[Justitia]

5. I will not encourage division in my party, BUT I am making lists of

people who will never receive my support again.
I will happily explain to each of them why when I receive their snail mail w/envelopes included.

Dems will never survive by eating their own, and demoralizing their grassroots support.

[nadinbrzezinski]

6. which is exactly what they are doing

[Justitia]

14. Yes, they are. We are in total agreement. I should clarify...

I am livid about the "dems" who are taking potshots at our chairman and public swipes at him in order to increase their standing with the republican party.

I refuse to support such traitors to our party ever again.

To them I ask - "Why not go after the Bush admin the way you go after Howard Dean???"

[DianeK]

7. maybe division is exactly what we need right now in order..

to be able to reunite as a stronger party with a chrystal clear vision. if a civil was must happen within the party, it must be this year

[XemaSab]

8. I'll tell you what

if Dean leaves they're never getting another cent from me. I have only given them 60 bucks since the election, but it's 60 bucks the party never would have seen from me without Howard as chair.

[bluedog]

9. I'll leave the Party

and take MY VOTE with me.............if Democrats cannot see what is happening.then they deserve to lose...you don't win by kissing asses along the way.you lose your standards...your integrity and your aspirations.........Dean is telling it like it is..........and the party knows it............don't whitewash the fact.the GOP has destroyed this country.bitch all your want....when they think Dean no longer speaks for our party.....then they lose mine and my families VOTE!

[SnoopDog]

10. Considering the Democrat Party...

is nothing but Repub-lite, YES. There are only a 10 to 12 Reps in the House that are truly Democrats and barely 5 Dem Senators.

As citizens, we are being SLAUGHTERED. We need to burn our government to the ground and start over.

[BR_Parkway]

11. Yup! I wish he'd said FAKE Christians that are hijacking real people's

faith in their hate war to hang on to power, but dear lord, Lieberman and other apologists would have shit right on the Senate floor if Dean would have told that much truth all in one soundbyte.

They are all so worried that Dean's support is going to hurt them when they want the Pres nomination in '08.

We've got DSM, Bolton held up, Shrub's poll numbers tanking, Rethugs seriously concerned that their party has led them down a path they don't like and what are the Dems doing? Circular firing squads. Any politician who is so concerned about how things LOOK or SOUND will NEVER, NEVER get another vote or dime from me.

I raise sheep, they can be pretty dumb creatures - sometimes the only way to get their attention is to rap them on the head pretty hard! That's exactly what we're having to do with MSM to pay attention and report something!

[medeak]

12. over reactionary people

why are we going down this negative road?

[bunkerbuster1]

16. Dean's not going.

Please. A few DLC and New Republic nerds getting hissy-fits do not a coup make.

[Al-CIAda]

13. I may leave regardless. The spineless pukes are sickening to my stomach.

We are so screwed.

[Mist]

15. Between Dean and the Democratic Party--I'd stick w/Dean.

HE has integrity and courage.

[name not needed]

17. No.

I'm not leaving the party just because Dean might not be in charge at some point in the future. I'm amazed how much of DU actually enjoys the division in this country.

[Selteri]

18. Yup, I'm only with the Democrats now because I can't stand the

the only other option in our political scene. It seems we need a new party.

[bunny planet]

19. Is there talk of them forcing him out? That would be a supremely stupid

move.

[Mass]

30. Of course no

but some people need to vent, so they will say anything.

[brentspeak]

20. Only people who want division in the ranks will leave

FACT: The DLC can't do anything right, don't know how to win elections

FACT: Dean makes a spectacle of himself all too often, and the average person will look at him as if he's a kook.

Basically, we have to get our act together or we're really screwed.

[comsymp]

24. That makes absolutely no sense

If people want division in the ranks, it would behoove them not to leave, but to stick around and encourage discord, wouldn't it?

Seems to me that, by leaving, people would be removing division from the ranks.

And, though I doubt that Dean's detractors would have the balls to force him out, if it came to it, yeah, that would be it for me.

[Skidmore]

25. More FACTS!

1. The DLC does not represent the interests of the working man, just the working corporation--they have no clue about populism.

2. Corporate Dems tend to vote with Republicans and if me or mine want to support Republican policies, we will vote Republican.

3. Howard Dean articulates best the concerns of working people and has my family's full support.

4. Unless the Democratic Party rediscovers how to be the party of the working man and woman, my family and I will go too.

5. Good luck with converting Rs.

[Neshanic]

21. He goes, I go.

[chaska]

22. I second that.

[pocket]

23. Hell yes

.

[KoKo]

26. Yes......I've been thinking about the Green party...but am working Dem

on Election Reform within party and am Precinct Delegate. I'm getting sicker and sicker of fighting the do nothing, status quo types in our party who resent us and Dr. Dean.

If they force him out they will lose their activists. And, maybe that's the intention. To "marginalize us into oblivion." It's a mistake for them though because we learned how to organize during the last four years in the wilderness and we are a voice to contend with. I don't know that they see it that way, and maybe I overestimate the power of the Activists, but I'm not going to give up fighting to save our Constitution even if I leave the Dem Party, and neither will the rest of us if we are forced out with Dean.

[AntiCoup2K4]

27. If the DLC succeeds in assassinating Dean AGAIN, this party is......

Officially Pronounced Dead

[ClarkUSA]

28. See what Dean had to say after meeting with Reid today

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=1842221#

[jmaier]

29. Y'all need to calm down.

The controversy is hyped up in DU way beyond regard for its basis in reality.

[JNelson6563]

36. You are correct

DU is like a pressure cooker in regard to this sort of thing.

It was in a different universe during the primary season. Here people from the various camps were at each other's throats, in the real world we all worked on our party fundraisers and various other things without regard to who supported who.

I have learned to basically disregard reaction on DU as representative of the real world. There is no relation.

Julie

[Adelante]

31. Of course not

This is ridiculous.

[welshTerrier2]

32. only if he calls for withdrawal from Iraq

i already belong to one occupation-supporting party ... who needs another one ??

if Dean, and his supporters, genuinely provided an alternative to the hawkish Democratic Party, although i did not support Dean in the primaries, i would have to give a new party some very, very serious consideration ...

[LittleClarkie]

33. I didn't join because of him in the first place

though I supported him for chair.

No, I'm staying.

[stickdog]

34. Damn right I would. And I'm not the only one. Fuck the fascist enablers.

I've had about as much of their loser crap as I can take.

[usregimechange]

35. That isn't going to happen