Kerry needs to Justify his record

[pnziii]

Kerry seems more like a republican to me.

Kerry voted FOR Welfare Reform H.R. 3734
Welfare reform approved legislation that preyed on the limited rights of vulnerable groups including children, immigrants, the poor and the elderly in the name of welfare reform. The bill also eroded free speech for not-for-profit organizations, violated the separation of church and state, and damaged privacy rights by establishing a de facto national identification system.

Kerry voted FOR Funding of Religious Institutions S. 1956
Government Funding of Religious Institutions - Included in the welfare overhaul was a provision that could force state governments, under threat of lawsuits, to contract with religious institutions, including houses of worship, to provide taxpayer-funded social services, even if they are delivered in a proselytizing environment. This, too, was a recurring theme in the 104th Congress where opponents of religious liberty repeatedly sought to pass provisions to lower the wall of separation between church and state. In the Senate, the provisions were inserted into the welfare bill by a vote of 67 to 32.

Kerry voted for Internet Censorship S.652
Internet Censorship - As part of a major overhaul of the nation's telecommunications industries, both the House and Senate approved major new censorship schemes for the Internet. The Senate adopted its version, the so-called Communications Decency Act, by a vote of 84 to 16.

Kerry voted AGAINST Medical Privacy H.R 3103
Medical privacy - Hidden within the massive health care reform bill approved by Congress in the stampede for an August recess was a deceptively labeled provision that further eroded the privacy rights of all Americans. The provision, known as "administrative simplification," gives government and businesses access to
confidential medical information about individuals without their consent and establishes a unique health identification number for every patient, health provider, health plan and employer.

Kerry voted FOR National ID Cards S. 1664
National ID Card - One of the most pervasive themes of the 104th Congress has been proposals to establish a national identification system as a means of tracking undocumented workers, so-called deadbeat dads and to monitor health insurance information. Various database schemes have been included in bills as diverse as immigration, welfare reform and health insurance. Since these proposals have been buried in much larger legislation, it was often difficult to determine the position of members of Congress.


Why isn't anyone asking him to justify his voting record.

[DuctapeFatwa]

1. He is not against the Patriot Act. He believes he would be able to put it

to better use than bush.

[Namvet04]

7. Be real careful on the patriot act - it could lead to defeat

Some top dem senators had the aclu and others try to find one abuse of it with americans and they found none. I would not touch it with all the terrorist still out there. Do you really want to win or play with fire?

Win and you can change it.

[bicentennial_baby]

8. What?!

:wtf: Are you for real?

[Namvet04]

16. Check it out, several dem senators had the aclu and others

check to see if there were any problems or abuse to americans. The report I read in the LA times was none.

It was for real.

[bicentennial_baby]

19. Sorry

I am well versed in the ins and outs of the Patriot Act and Patriot Act 2. In fact, I attended an ACLU conference all about it this summer. You are woefully misinformed, and I suggest that you check your facts.

[LostInTheMaise]

31. Can you highlight the items that harm Americans?

I'd like to see it in easy for the layman to understand terms.

[bicentennial_baby]

32. Try here:

This link will give you all the info you need:

http://www.aclu.org/SafeandFree/SafeandFree.cfm?ID=12126&c=207

[DuctapeFatwa]

11. Which candidate can we count on to root out sleeper cells right here in

the Homeland and crack down on anti-American sentiment with a zero tolerance policy that sends the terrorists a chilling message that Americans are not weak and are united?

[bicentennial_baby]

15. Duh....Oscar, of course!

I'm starting to think Oscar may be our only hope. If only he would accept the challenge...sigh.

[DuctapeFatwa]

23. Oscar is currently engaged in the War Against Lutefisk - the real terror

Minnesota intelligence reports that isolated pockets of lutefisk continue to launch improvised insurgent attacks against the digamma fur coalition.

[bicentennial_baby]

26. So he's back from Mexico?

Good to hear! Maybe he can team up with Jesse Ventura while he's in Minnesota...together, they could take out Norm Coleman no problem :P

[DuctapeFatwa]

29. Link to OscarWire inside

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=105&topic_id=663920

[lcordero]

2. No he does not have to justify his record

I'm simply not voting for him whether it comes to the Primaries or the General Election.

[adamrsilva]

3. He also voted against the first Gulf War

and for the second one.

[peacetalksforall]

4. No way Kerry.

Ted Kennedy - you were wrong on your endorsement.

[blm]

5. His lifetime rating is closest to Wellstone's of all the candidates.

You can cherry pick amendments and try to pretend he's a Repub, but where does that leave the others whose records are to the right of Kerry's?

[Namvet04]

12. The only one you could even think of say was a repub is clark

I can't beleive we are attacking loyal dems for years with nonsense like this. Clark has been praising bush not any of the top 3.

When clark was supporting bush, did he also have anything to do with rove? Something to think on.

[Namvet04]

6. Clark was pro bush and war, not any of the top 3

Was clark also friendly with Rove when he was praising bush?

Better title for this would be "Clark needs to Justify his record"

[Avalux]

9. Friendly with Rove?

Please reference a source for this in your post. If you don't have one, then don't write it. Thanks.

[Namvet04]

21. Many on here have told of clark and bush

If your praising Bush like he did, it could be that he also praised team members like rove. He praised powell and others. It pays to think and check things out. All good leaders and team players will check someone out from the other side that comes over.

I just think we as a party should give clark time to prove what he tells us now is what is true. What is wrong with that.

[Democrats unite]

22. Man it would be great if you followed ...

your own advice!

[Namvet04]

27. I do and see what happen to clark in NH, down down down

When the big 3 on the first team came back, people stop looking at the rookie. He could be a good sect of def for one of the 3. Give him time to show us he is a lib dem.

[Democrats unite]

10. oh ye of little faith.

eom

[democratreformed]

13. It's so nice to have yet another person on here

who jumps at every chance to say "What about Wes Clark?"

[Namvet04]

24. That question is why he is sinking in the polls as people ask

it and compare him to the top 3 first team leaders in Kerry, Edwards and Dean. Why bring in a rookie. Clark was ahead in NH but people started to ask, what about clark and they look at the other 3 and he keeps going down and down.

[bigtree]

14. he's a republican

with a voting record more liberal than Ted Kennedy. :eyes:

[Monte Carlo]

17. I feel you are disregarding a lot of good in his record.

No one is perfect.

[oasis]

18. Kerry seem's more like a Democrat toTed Kennedy and Fritz Hollings

So that's two to one so far.

[WiseMen]

20. Who are you to determine what is "Justfied." Kerry's Progressive Score is

higher that Kenedy's (93% vs Kennedy 88%).

What do you want -- 100% or we will kill you?

[HalfManHalfBiscuit]

25. Stupid

We all know his record. Why is any "justification" needed?

[Namvet04]

28. Interesting that he post this and does not answer

I don't think any of the candidates but clark should even be thought of as repubs. They have years of exper with us. Clark just came over from being pro-bush and we should challenge him. He should take sometime to prove he is one of us.

[saltpoint]

30. Your post --

-- has drawn some swift, sharp criticism, and speaking for just myself, I agree with those criticisms of your post. The tone of your post reminds me of Sid in Twain's Tom Sawyer.

None of us enjoys flawless correspondent agreement with our friends, our family, our public officials. Massachusetts voters have returned John Kerry to the Senate more than once. They alone voted for McGovern in '72 the November just before the Watergate tide would sweep Nixon from office.

I trust their judgment.

[sandnsea]

33. Too liberal or not?

I don't agree with all these votes. But the internet "censorship" is a child porn bill, id card is terrorist security (which I hate), and welfare reform is welfare reform. I don't know anything about the medical thing except it looks like it would interfere with computerized medical records which could cut costs enormously and save lives. And I don't like religious institutions either, but that's one of his peculiarities. He apparently figures help anybody, any way you can.

I love that in Florida we've got conservatives operating a prison release program that provides education, housing, counselling, jobs, and on-going support. Conservatives. I don't care if it's a religious program, at this point, as long as we get conservatives to start doing and stop preaching. Once they've done it as long as we have, maybe they'll start learning some real compassion.

I guess he's more electable then we thought, not such a Massachusetts liberal after all.