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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 10:54 AM
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RNC chair starts speech with " my fellow Christians"... (while media use
Edited on Fri Jun-10-05 10:56 AM by AlinPA
Dean's remarks to go after him the way they did with the scream). It will be done by Rpigs and the media over and over and over and over.

<snip from article in Pittsburgh Post Gazette
Behind schedule after a delayed flight, Ken Mehlman last night rushed into a room at the ornate Duquesne Club, Downtown, to address a gathering of the Republican Jewish Coalition.

"First of all, let me say to my fellow Christians, it's good to be here," the Republican national chairman said, cheerfully fanning the partisan flame ignited by his opposite number's comment earlier in the week that Republicans were "pretty much a white, Christian party.''
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http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05161/519567.stm
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 10:56 AM
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1. It's a two fer:
He slams Dean, and gets TO SAY WHAT HE REALLY THINKS IN THE GUISE OF A "JOKE".

Fact is, he would want to say this every day and fucking mean it.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 02:44 PM
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19. that is a Jay Leno tactic (on jacko)
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Ravenseye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 10:59 AM
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2. Ah I get it. ha ha
See, he's Jewish, so he's making fun of Dean by saying that. Ha Ha.

What percentage of people at the meeting were white christians dickweed?

Oh they were all Jewish? Wow!

Wait. This was a hastily arranged gathering of the 50 non-christian republicans in western pennsylvania?

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Surveying the crowd of about 60, Weinroth joked, "We didn't know that there were that many Jewish Republicans."

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I live in Pittsburgh. I used to live in one of the major Jewish neighborhoods. Believe me. On a good day, you'll see that many on ONE BLOCK.
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 11:00 AM
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3. Doesn't RNC stand for Republican National Christians???
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 11:13 AM
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4. What Dean said is a disaster and lets Republicans play the victim
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 11:22 AM
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5. Dean has no control over Pubs 'playing the victim'
And it is not a disaster in any way.

Michael Moore called Bush a deserter and the Repubs cried and told us all how much that hurt their feelings.

Then the Abu Ghraib photos came out and the Rebubs cried about how they were "outraged by the outrage"

If Dean said that it was raining, Repub weathermen would cry and demand an apology.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 11:27 AM
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6. You're so right. We can't possibly say anything bad about the
Republicans any more. It allows them to play the victim.

Hear that, Democrats? Only good things about the GOP from now on!!

;)
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 11:44 AM
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8. They are legitimately victims since what Dean said is false.
Republicans are consistantly gaining with Hispanics, Jews and Asians. They have all kind of tokens in high places and are making publicized outreaches to minorities.

Dean may fire up some of the base but the Dems are full retreat with independent voters and in battleground states. Notice that many of the Dem leaders complaining about Dean's faulty rhetoric are from battleground states.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 11:48 AM
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9. It is true. 82% of the Republican party are white Christians.
IMO, 82% constitutes "mostly," the term Dr. Dean used.
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CanOfWhoopAss Donating Member (776 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 11:53 AM
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12. 82 % is a Man-Date lol
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 01:15 PM
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17. Connecticut and Delaware ain't battleground states
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 11:49 AM
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10. Their Ownership of the Media is the Disaster
EVERYTHING we do or say gets spun around some way to hurt us. Always.
They can get away with it because we have no way to respond.


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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 02:38 PM
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18. I agree with you-TOTALLY. The media is controlled by Rpigs. n/t
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MsTryska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 02:55 PM
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20. So you know what we should do?
say whatever the hell we feel like saying...all day everyday.


eventually it will stick.


nothing like a litte hard cold cruel truth.
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CanOfWhoopAss Donating Member (776 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 11:53 AM
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11. so who's the victim when repukes say
Dems hate America, Dems hate the Troops, Dems have no morals... I suppose they get to say anything they want and we just have to be affable 24/7.

Dean speaks for me!!!
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 12:14 PM
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14. "What Dean said is a disaster"
Get hysterical much?

RL
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walkon Donating Member (919 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 12:56 PM
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16. What's wrong with white christians?
Look at Condi Rice. She became a white christian and she's doing great!
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tmorelli415 Donating Member (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 11:39 AM
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7. Dems should keep fanning the issue
Edited on Fri Jun-10-05 12:39 PM by tmorelli415
the strategy is brilliant as I see it. And a long time in the coming. Foist the label on them and force moderate and reasonable Christians who are only marginally attached to the Repubs to make a choice. They will feel very uncomfortable being associated as a group with the Right Wing extremists and it will force them to come face-to-face with a decision they've so far ignored. I have little doubt that huge numbers of them will refuse to allow the Christian label to be identified with the extremists and then - the REAL magic happens - the fundamentalists and the moderates begin shouting at one another. Next logical step is for the Catholics and the Mormons and the Evangelicals to start shouting at one another because they share very little in terms of theology and world view. It has always worked thsi way in history - as soon as the Revival gains control, they turn on one another (e.g., 'who is a better Christian? Who has it right?') as they can't just stop by winning - each subgroup then has to be the ultimate power broker and then they fall apart. We just need to hasten the day by encouraging the dischord, raising issues that are very uncomfortable, etc. We can't lose by telling them that they are Christians - after all, isn 't that what they say themselves? It's starting, folks... tiny cracks...

I don't believe for one minute that deespite the smiles and giggles in the room, those Jews had a pang of pain and honest distaste in their guts when Mehlman cracked his joke. Funny indeed.

I grew up in a tiny rural town with one small Protestant church in the 80s when the Right wing Christians were just starting to grab power. they took over the town and the school board, etc., and the few of us who didn't agree just kep t quiet. I remember those days very well because I felt then as I do now in many ways - it was very frightening to anyone who could see what was truly happening. (thank God I didn't buy their crap even as a teenager with a graduating high school class of 11 = yes eleven- kids) the next thing they did was turn on one another and divided the little congregation into splinters after that little church had been there for nearly 100 years as a community church. One group refused to meet with the other group, started their own prayer groups, the church board split up, and to this day it is all piss-and-vinegar (ahem) between them with none of them meeting with one another, etc. this is in a town of only about 500 people - a bunch of Christians wingnuts who hate each other because they think the ontehr one is not worshipping or politicizing correctly (if you ask me, they're all pretty off). It always follows the same path with these guys.

I might add that I am not hostile to Christains. I'm a convert to Catholicism as an adult (sometiems I think I became Catholic just to piss those Evangelicals back in my home town - they were aghast). I sat back quietly and let them push me forward without asking the right questions because it all seemed to fit in their minds: I was named the Good Citizen of Washington State by the Governor at *their* urging, was foisted forward without asking and I was supposed to be their prodigal child only to discover at the 'banquet' (seriously) that I was becoming Catholic, that I was gay and <gasp> liberal to boot! they never knew what is coming at them until it is too late because they dont' want to see it. Then the time comes and it is too late - they have to discredit the very people they created. Imagine the divisiveness - distill it into everything you do with regard to these people and their egos will never let them see until it is too late. It sounds somewhat meniacal but in fact it requires just quiet urging and coaxing at most. The Lord works in strange ways (or as my mother would say, "We plan, God laughs") Tiny cracks, remember! Yes, they are building somethign that will last a long time but it is not what they think it is... I'll be glad to hand them a few nails and a hammer for their work...
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chomskysright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 12:15 PM
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15. and back the fundies into a corner from which they cannot exit...YES!
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 12:12 PM
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13. And no one asked him:
"When is the GOP going to stop being the party of rich, white Christians"? Go figure!
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