why should people vote for a party that won't stand up for themselves

[CTLawGuy]

how can people expect that party to stand up for them?

How can people expect that the party will do the right thing in a time of crisis and not fold?

Why should people have any respect for a party that won't stand up for itself?

[snowbear]

1. You're right.. the Republican party DOES SUCK..

(LOL)

:rofl:

[CTLawGuy]

2. I agree

but that is not really what I was saying ;)

[snowbear]

3. I know that...

I'm just yearning to see some POSITIVE posts I guess.. :cry:

[Eloriel]

4. That's actually a quote from howard Dean, you probably know

but I want everyone else to know. From during the campaign period.

why should people vote for a party that won't stand up for themselves -- how can people expect that party to stand up for them?

I should also point out that while I don't have the EXACT quote, I can recognize that yours is a mangled paraphrase that nevertheless still gets the point across very well. :evilgrin:

[CTLawGuy]

5. thats probably where I got the idea Eloriel

I knew that idea was floating around in my head and now I know where it came from?

[MasonJar]

6. You obviously have not seen the Dems in today's Patriot Act

session.

[CTLawGuy]

7. no,

what were they doing?

Were they showing some kind of spine?

[KnowerOfLogic]

8. Correct; the dem party does not command respect right now. When

they *repeatedly* refuse to take a stand or seriously fight for anything, they don't *deserve* anybody's vote. For me, the straw that broke the camel's back was they way they all caved and supported bush on the iraq war, and as far as i can tell, they haven't changed a lot since then.

[korvette]

9. the dem party does not command respect right now

I agree.  All we do is say no.  WE need to lead and get the
jump on the 'pubs.  Saying no all the time is just making
farmers in Alabama upset.

[Phoebe Loosinhouse]

11. But know that they do know that the intelligence was "fixed"

why aren't they yelling over the lies and treachery that took us to war? Because they never just throw caution to the winds and say what is right or just or true.

The original poster has it wrong - they do stand up for THEMSELVES, (their campaign contributions, their junkets, their future jobs as lobbyists, their seat in the BuildaBurger cafeteria) but they sure as heck do not stand up for Joe and Mary Average.

They could start framing the issues themselves and start talking deficits, healthcare, jobs, election fraud and war on their, no wait, OUR behalf any second they choose to - so why aren't they?

And you know what? If they can't get the coverage from the MSM they can release press releases and interviews to their home states and all of the small newspapers in those states and they WOULD get coverage. Maybe they have to learn how to make the news, not respond to the news.

[Tom Rinaldo]

10. On Democrats defending other Democrats

Your header question made me think of these comments Wes Clark made at a meeting in Los Angeles during the California Democratic State Convention this Spring. There was a tape running and this is from an unofficial transcript:

"But I want, I want ya to understand... that I believe that no Democrat can win in 2008, unless the American people understand that we're a party of strong convictions. Democrats... Democrats draw lines. We say what's right and wrong. We're not just a party where everybody sort of thinks anything they want, says anything they want, and says, Gee, I don't agree with him, therefore I'm... you know, I don't like him, and I think I'll consider voting for John McCain.

The American people... will trust the Democratic Party to defend America when... they believe that Democrats... will defend other Democrats."