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Hosnon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 07:20 PM
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Bush Impeachment Effort Reaches Georgia
I was driving in Augusta, GA today and was in an upper-class area of town called "The Hill." Turning on to one road there was a big sign that said in red letters: IMPEACH.

I'll be damned...if it is starting to emerge around that area perhaps the effort is actually gaining real momentum!
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 07:23 PM
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1. It is... time to renew all our efforts
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 07:23 PM
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2. Good News
I'm glad somebody in the south has the sense to realize that Bush is a corrupt liar.
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 07:27 PM
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9. Believe me, many of us in the South think that * is a corrupt liar.
The south is purple not red. There are many blue islands in the purple seas as well. We are fighting the good fight daily!

Cheers!
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 07:24 PM
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3. I've said this before
But this is just talk. A lot of people here are getting their hopes up for something that will just never happen. A lot people here are going to be dejected and at a loss for words when they eventually realize that this impeachment talk will never get much beyond the blogs and Air America radio. Wehether or not he committed impeachable offenses is not relevant. This Congress will just never allow that process to take place. Even with a Democratic Congress, there would likely be too many Vichy Democrats to make impeachment a reality. Fight the battles that are winnable.

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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 10:15 PM
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30. That's a defeatist attitude
The right has never worried about whether its battles are winnable. It attacks wherever it sees an opening. It wins some, and even when it loses, it manages to define the dialog.

That's what we need to start doing. By getting the idea of impeachment out there, we make a very strong statement about the nature of Bush's crimes. By talking about impeachment, we force the dialog onto our terms.

Frankly, I think it's an insult to DUers even to say, "A lot people here are going to be dejected and at a loss for words when they eventually realize that this impeachment talk will never get much beyond the blogs and Air America radio." Do you really think we're such fools? Do you really think we'd play into the Freepers' hands that way?

If we could get Bush defined in people's minds as "the president who ought to be impeached but won't because the Congress and the media are too corrupt," that would be an enormous victory. That's what I'm aiming for. But we need to put our all into the larger effort -- to visualize actual impeachment, if you will -- to make even that redefinition happen.
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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 10:20 PM
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32. So, concentrate on the elections?
And forget the legal stuff, huh.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 07:22 PM
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35. We should fight the battles that get our side better organized:
since we can learn only by fighting the fights, waiting until victory is certain is a prescription for constant defeat.

Fighting may mean losing a number of battles; but we can make the other side's victories costly and strategically disasterous for them, so that what they at first consider "wins" turns out in the end to have been a series of terrible mistakes.

The territory is public opinion -- a shifting, uncertain ground that is easily misread from afar ...
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candy331 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 07:37 PM
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36. Believe me when the tide changes and the media see their dollars
Edited on Sat Jun-11-05 07:37 PM by candy331
slipping even further down the tube they will be glad to sing the impeach song irregardless of whether he will be or not. It will be good even if he is not that he goes down in history as being the worst President in history and could not be impeached because he owned every branch of govt and cowered the news media too.. That will be a great legacy if no impeachment. Even if the Dems were in power they would NEVER impeach him, they are enablers w/o fight.
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cdb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 07:24 PM
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4. that guy is a pariah
he will soon find a cross burning brightly on his lawn.
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 07:24 PM
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5. Holy Cow! That is good news. I'm in GA and haven't seen any such signs
even in the liberal college town where I live.
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gademocrat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 07:24 PM
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6. Wish we had IMPEACH
signs here in Atlanta. I live in repug neighborhood. It was difficult to keep my Kerry Edwards signs up.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 07:29 PM
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10. there's at least one island of sanity, the neighborhoods around Emory
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chomskysright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 07:54 PM
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25. PLZ: h-emeroids: hi $ neighborhoods w/ fat catz' chillen
OK OK.

I'm over in Grant Park.

Never have liked Emory area: too much traffic and people too stuck on themselves.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 07:56 PM
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26. I've always enjoyed being around university neighborhoods
and its close to Decatur which I also like.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 07:25 PM
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7. Yay!
That's great for being in Georgia. Was this a more republican area?
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Hosnon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 07:36 PM
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12. I would guess more probable than not
The Hill is where all of the rich folk moved to escape the floods of the Savannah River. Today it is pretty much where the blue blood of Augusta lives.
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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 07:26 PM
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8. In a wealthier part of Georgia?
That's interesting. Do you think it was an anomaly, or is there a more general feeling out there?
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 07:31 PM
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11. Many of the old neighborhoods and grand homes in Augusta
are occupied by Democrats. The Republicans tend to have fled to the all-white Suburbs. Augusta is a very old and historic river town. Same with Athens where I live. Lots of well-off Democrats in the town. Most Republicans live in all-white neighborhoods in the nearby counties with low minority populations. Wouldn't want the kids to go to the "black schools" you know.
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Hosnon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 07:38 PM
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14. That's true but there are many private schools around the
hill area so that rich whites can still remain on the hill.
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 07:39 PM
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15. That is true! Many of the rich folks in Athens send their kids to private
schools which were started in response to desegregation.
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Hosnon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 07:40 PM
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16. I just graduated from UGA in 04 - I am thankful I was there
for the protests before the war. How are things looking in Athens regarding impeachment?
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 11:34 PM
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34. I'm not sure about our local impeachment efforts.
Edited on Fri Jun-10-05 11:58 PM by CottonBear
I've been swamped with work and family obligations. I'm royally pissed off at my congressman (D-GA John Barrow, our former county commissioner and my friend because he voted for the Schiavo bill and, He's been re-distircted once again and is positioning himself to run in a district NORTH (Republican) of Athens. Holy crap. He's desperate and Max Burns is running again in 2006. I'm fighting a Repub takeover of the A-CC gov't. I'm going to be involved in the next mayoral race. I'm involved w/ local Dems. And, I've got a family and a horse and 3 cats and fish! Mr. CottonBear and I are going to the big Rainbow Push coalition protest in Atlanta in August.

Peace. CB :patriot:

Edit: What did you study? Go Dawgs! :)
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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 07:41 PM
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17. Thanks for taking the time to explain that to a Californian :)
That makes it more understandable.
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candy331 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 07:44 PM
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37. CottonBear I lived in Athens for a couple years worked for Advantage
Behavioral Health Systems on North Avenue there. I found the town quite behind (being a major University town) even more so than the little town I later moved to in South Georgia. I think the uppers live in Oconee county.
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Hosnon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 07:36 PM
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13. Probably an anomaly but what a place for it to be!
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 07:41 PM
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18. I find that shocking.
Pleasantly so.
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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 07:41 PM
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19. it IS the peach state. are you sure you didn't misread it? eom
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Hosnon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 07:45 PM
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22. Positive...my Gf voted for Dumbass (wasnt dating her at the time) and
saw it too.

Plain as day
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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 09:39 PM
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29. good!
just checking. ;-)

ellen fl
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Chipper Chat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 07:43 PM
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20. Maybe that was just a subliminal message to tourists
that Peach Season in Georgia is just around the corner.
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Hosnon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 07:45 PM
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23. Yea I did think about the possibility it was something to do with
peaches but it was in a major intersection in a residential area.
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 07:43 PM
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21. Glad to hear it. We're doing our bit up here too.
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 07:53 PM
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24. Great! I sure do miss my southern family & friends.
What we need are most Americans from a broad range of agendas (religions, creeds, races, etc.) to join together and bring out country back from the brinks of pure, unadulterated HELL!

A positive post. Great and thanks!
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 09:13 PM
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27. You sure that sign wasn't left over
from the Clinton era? After all everything is Clinton's fault
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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 09:19 PM
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28. That sign would have to be over 6 years old if it were
I'll bet it's shiny and new and put up by people who are sick of being lied to.
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 10:20 PM
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31. Good question.
I see that as far more likely given the area of the country.
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Th1onein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 11:29 PM
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33. If we all put up impeachment signs, it would serve the same purpose
as an actual impeachment.
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