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Sat Jun-11-05 10:45 PM
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Donna Brazile spreading inside conversations to the media |
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One starts to question which side she is working for.
"Privately, people have said they don't want Howard Dean to become the story because we have more important issues to talk about," said Donna Brazile.
New rule: Tell Donna nothing in private because she scurries as quick as a bunny and blabs to the press.
Also, Donna knows diddly-squat. The story was that Dean said the GOP is full of white christian men. That's the story. GOP is elitist. If Donna is so worried about Dean becoming the story then she should be sanctioning the Dems who are trying to turn the story away from the GOP being elitist and towards criticism of Dean.
With friends such as Donna . . .
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Sat Jun-11-05 10:48 PM
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1. I would not want to have Donna sitting behind me like "Dean " did today. |
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Sat Jun-11-05 10:48 PM
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2. WTF? She's SO useless anymore. |
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She should be fired from whatever she's doing.
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Sat Jun-11-05 10:49 PM
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3. She's just the sort we |
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can do without. During the election I would occasionally put myself through watching CNN and she was always so buddy buddy with Bay Buchanan. Don't they get that these people are not to be trusted, they are not our friends. She also talked about how she and KKKRove was friends too.
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Sun Jun-12-05 09:42 AM
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25. Anyone that claims Rove as a friend is NOT a friend of mine!!!!!!! |
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Sat Jun-11-05 10:53 PM
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4. She is not to be trusted. She has her own "agenda". |
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Sat Jun-11-05 11:04 PM
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5. It's interesting to me that the critics of Dean |
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like Brazile, Biden, are the problem. They can't win national elections and they don't want Dean to do it because that would make them feel even more like losers. I like Edwards, but he didn't win in the last election either. None of them have any ground for criticizing Dean in my opinion.
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Sat Jun-11-05 11:30 PM
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10. But the ones they wanted to win DID win. |
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Sun Jun-12-05 02:41 AM
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13. exactly, exactly, exactly. how can any of them complain when |
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their track record is shit.
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Sun Jun-12-05 06:51 AM
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17. Let's all consider helping the good folks folks of Delaware - |
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Elect another, more honest, Democrat to the Senate? Any above board way that's legal - Biden's opposition will be fully supported by me.
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Sun Jun-12-05 09:43 AM
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26. Who has Brazile campaigned for that won? |
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Sat Jun-11-05 11:07 PM
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6. Sitting behind Dean today I could see that obvious devious smile |
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Edited on Sat Jun-11-05 11:11 PM by candy331
on her face. She is to watched at all cost, especially if it is true as has been said (true/not?)that she is chummy with Rove.
Dupe : dang not paying attention posted twice
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Sat Jun-11-05 11:10 PM
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7. Sitting behind Dean today I could see that obvious devious smile |
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on her face. She is to watched at all cost, especially if it is true as has been said (true/not?)that she is chummy with Rove.
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Sat Jun-11-05 11:21 PM
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8. I've wanted to smack her since November |
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After Kerry lost, she was all over the place saying how we could have done better.:spank:
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Sun Jun-12-05 09:44 AM
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28. Someone should had come back with "Then why the hell didn't you?" |
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Sat Jun-11-05 11:29 PM
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9. More "some people say..." crap |
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As though these weasels are talking about the important stuff.
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Sun Jun-12-05 12:43 AM
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11. "That's the story. GOP is elitist." !?!?? |
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I thought they were trailer park dwellin' knuckle-draggers.
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Sun Jun-12-05 12:55 AM
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12. That may be true about Tom Delay, but the rest of them are rich white |
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men who pass laws which favor the rich and use religion to dupe the masses.
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Sun Jun-12-05 09:50 AM
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30. Some call you the elite, I call you my base.... |
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Sun Jun-12-05 06:30 AM
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14. Can't they give her a retirement package and say goodbye to her already? |
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She's been useless for years, and everyone has been complaining about her inability to perform for the past two decades. She's like the houseguest who just won't leave. Recently she bragged about being friendly with Karl Rove. She's doing a nice job for him too.
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Sun Jun-12-05 09:45 AM
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29. Give her the United Airline employee retirement package |
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Sun Jun-12-05 12:49 PM
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37. Agreed. She's been useless furniture... |
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for a long time. Now she is a liability. Showing her the door won't shut her up, but it will remove any stamp of party approval she may have assumed.
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Sun Jun-12-05 06:38 AM
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15. If you are surprised, you must have sleptthrough 2004. |
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Sun Jun-12-05 06:48 AM
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16. Donna Brazille is a turn-coat ... she has no voice IMO for Dems! |
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Sun Jun-12-05 08:00 AM
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18. Publicly Howard Dean said he doesn't want Dean to become the story... |
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...because we have more important issues to talk about. Gosh, I hope I'm not revealing something private. I saw his say that while standing next to Harry Reid, claiming all the focus on a few comments he made was just a Republican diversion from the real issues that the Democrats planned to talk about. I thought it was a public Press Conference...
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Sun Jun-12-05 08:04 AM
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19. she should have her own tv show entitled "its all about donna" |
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she is a perfect example of the peter principle. her work in minority voter registration and activism really was a good thing, but her ability to function as a cog in the wheel of the democratic party is sorely lacking. her inability to work and play well with others did no benefit to gore's 2000 campaign and her antics alienated rank and file democrats all thru that campaign.
what i would like to know is what credientials she has that allows the media to consider her a spokesperson for democrats.
from my perspective she is a judas goat who is presented by the press as a "two-fer," an african-american woman with previous democratic party credentials who is willing to disparage democrats at the drop of a hat.
no one in the press would give a damn about what she has to say if she was a he and white. she knows this and plays it to the hilt. she has become that which is most common of political operatives whose time has past, a media whore for money.
my personal opinion is that she did more than anyone else in the democratic party to undermine al gore's 2000 campaign and she did it because of her ego.
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Sun Jun-12-05 08:27 AM
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20. Please don't crucify me here... |
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I've spent the last week defending Dean and decrying those who would publicly criticize him but I don't understand what is so bad about what Donna said.
I'm not trying to defend Donna...Truth be told, I don't have much of an opinion on her one way or the other.
But, are you guys saying that you think that Dean should be the story? I think Howard himself would agree that we should be more focused on the issues than the personalities, no? Didn't he say as much himself as Tom mentions?
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Sun Jun-12-05 08:52 AM
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21. you (and Donna) are absolutely correct |
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We DON'T want Dean to be "THE story." We want the issues to be the story.
What you see happenning here is that any quote about Dean that isn't obviously glowingly positive is taken as an attack by the more passionate Dean (the candidate) supporters.
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Sun Jun-12-05 10:28 AM
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Also, it seems that some people don't quite mind Dean being the story. *sigh* At least the Chairman would agree with me that this should not be so, I think.
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Sun Jun-12-05 11:05 AM
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33. why don't you tell the democratic leadership that? |
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instead, dean makes a comment. it is not given IN context, or twisted, (or they fail to even read it IN context before they spout off a reply to it) and the so-called democratic leadership starts screaming that dean is NOT talking for them, the party, OR the dog catcher.
please!
we may be passionate about a man who is FINALLY walking the walk and talking the talk, instead of mealy mouthing platitudes every time we get spit on, but we also realize that the so-called leadership is a major part of the problem, and has no intention of being a part of the solution.
THEY are making the man the issue, when he is only doing what WE, the real party grassroots, asked of him.
as long as he continues to speak the truth, i don't give a damn what the so-called party leaders think.
WE grass roots members, need to take a BIG enema, and flush ourselves free of our so-called leaders.
There are plenty more to take their places who would actually work for the good of the party, and not for the good of their continuance of power.
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Sun Jun-12-05 11:21 AM
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34. So you agree with Brazille then |
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that we have important issues to talk about instead of the Party Chair. That, in fact, is what Chairman Dean and Sen. Reid said at their press availability this week, too.
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Sun Jun-12-05 12:18 PM
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is that the media bothered to pay attention. The media printed the statement that the Dem spokesman said the GOP is a very small exclusive club. Dems can hold conference after conference but the only one to pay attention is CSpan and that is when we bug CSpan to cover it.
To the media, anything Dems say is not important so they do not print and the Dem message does not get out. Except for Dean. When Dean goes out and starkly presents facts, the media prints. Yes the politicos are all upset by Dean, but the masses out there also got to hear that the Dems believe the GOP party is full of rich white men only.
Then Donna comes along and wants to make the story all about her and what she thinks the party should be saying. Well Donna, if the party keeps following your advice, no one in the media will pay attention so the message goes nowhere.
If Donna was working for the Dems she would have promoted the idea Dean started by saying she agrees the GOP is against anything which does not help the elite. But no, Donna made it all about her and her self-promotional thoughts.
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Sun Jun-12-05 09:06 AM
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22. Dean has plenty of real enemies |
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It isn't necessary to group in people who don't always defend Dean as strongly as we like in with them. It doesn't help Dean, and it doesn't help the Party. Think what you will of Brazile for whatever reasons, but she is not among those who are out to get Dean. A friend was taping CNN the other day when she was on at the same time as Robert Novak, who predictably was blasting Dean. Brazile responded to one of Novak's insults by saying that "Dean would go down in history as one of the best party chairs." She also pointed out that Dean has strong support from Democrats outside the beltway. You didn't hear that from Biden.
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Sun Jun-12-05 09:31 AM
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23. I lost all respect for her when she started ripping Michael Moore, |
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If she is so intent on being good friends with the GOP, she might as well be one. So many democrats simply aren't on our side, I swear, they join the democratic party simply to get on a higher level with the neo-cons years later, like zell miller.
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Sun Jun-12-05 09:38 AM
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24. She needs a career change |
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She's never run a successful campaign, her advice and strategies are useless and she knows next to nothing about voters.
This really isn't a good career choice for her, perhaps she could go the way of the rest of the Dem driftwood and get a talk show or something.
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Sun Jun-12-05 09:43 AM
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27. I agree with your criticism. Its as though she implies the hatchet job |
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press and its right wing talking points on Dean is valid.
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Sun Jun-12-05 10:40 AM
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32. excellent clarification |
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Sun Jun-12-05 11:58 AM
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35. Write and tell her what you think. |
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Sun Jun-12-05 12:53 PM
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it just occurred to me to write to her and here you are with the link!
Thanks.
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