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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 10:16 AM
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"Freedom Fries" Congressman throws in the towel.
On "This Week." Loved the video of him advocating for Freedom Fries in the House cafeteria. Oh how the worm has turned. He's introducing legislation calling for a timetable of a withdrawl from Iraq AND implied that we were misled.

I call them Freedom Fools. Is anyone keeping a list? Rod Norland also threw in the towel this week.
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 10:17 AM
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1. He pointed the finger at the neo -cons...
about time!!! And the freedom fries congressmen... wow.
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 10:19 AM
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3. I give him a lot of credit
for personally writing to the families of the war dead.

Not quite sure why people watch the babbling fossils on MTP.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 10:18 AM
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2. who he?
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 10:22 AM
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4. He is Walter Jones (R) - North Carolina.
Introduced Freedom Fries and Freedom Toast because he was mad at the French. A pro-war Republican who has thrown in the towel.
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 10:26 AM
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5. MTP-except for the idiot round toble-was as serious
as the proverbial heart attack, this morning. The sense of dawning realism was palpable. Wonderful beginning!
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 10:42 AM
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9. So I should catch the repeat?
With this admin, my heart can take just about anything.
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 04:42 PM
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24. Absolutely - Without doubt
It sounded like a serious discussion from thirty years ago.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 10:29 AM
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7. Ah, so he was the one.....any connection I wonder to the....
...Bob Jones University, which I know is located in Greensville SC.

http://www.bju.edu/
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 11:46 AM
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15. Walter Jones territory in eastern NC includes
the large marine base Camp Lejeune and related installations. So he obviously is responding to his consituency's concern about the war.
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 07:03 PM
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30. He represents Camp Lejeune?
Bet he's been at a lot of funerals. Unlike *.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 12:59 PM
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20. Great!
Now, does he also realize that he was lied to in order to get him and his fellow congresscritters to agree to war? If he does, perhaps he would like to bring articles of impeachment?

Hello? Hellllooooooooo?
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yorkiemommie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 10:27 AM
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6. our local mall had a restaurant called Vie de France


which closed just after he started his anti-French crusade and while I can't blame him for its closing I can't help but wonder either. Because my brother was sort of taunting the restaurant's closing because of it's so-called Frenchiness. ( Is that a word? )

I pointed out to him that in this area, SoCal, any restaurant is likely to be owned by any ethnicity!

I think this guy's actions had some unintended effects.
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 10:40 AM
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8. Freedom Fool
3/11/03 - CBS News
"Also leading the anti-French campaign was Rep. Walter Jones, R-N.C., who noted in a letter to colleagues that Cubbie's restaurant in Beaufort, N.C., in his district, was now serving "freedom fries."

"Watching France's self-serving politics of passive aggression in this effort has discouraged me more than I can say," Jones said."
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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 10:50 AM
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10. Her's a little more detail on him:
It was a culinary rebuke that echoed around the world, heightening the sense of tension between Washington and Paris in the run-up to the invasion of Iraq. But now the US politician who led the campaign to change the name of french fries to "freedom fries" has turned against the war.
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Now Mr Jones appears to agree. Asked by a reporter for the North Carolina News and Observer about the name-change campaign - an idea Mr Jones said at the time came to him by a combination of God's hand and a constituent's request - he replied: "I wish it had never happened."

Although he voted for the war, he has since become one of its most vociferous opponents on Capitol Hill, where the hallway outside his office is lined with photographs of the "faces of the fallen".

"If we were given misinformation intentionally by people in this administration, to commit the authority to send boys, and in some instances girls, to go into Iraq, that is wrong," he told the newspaper. "Congress must be told the truth."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1491567,00.html

pnorman


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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 11:23 AM
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13. Passive voice.
"an idea Mr Jones said at the time came to him by a combination of God's hand and a constituent's request - he replied: "I wish it had never happened."

So God was wrong or he was misreading the signals. What is "it?"
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 01:24 PM
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23. This is exactly what we need. This is what will bring Bush down, when
former RW Congressmen from RED Districts start to turn their venom on him. That's when the "wake up" will get momentum.... Sort of like if Falwell woke up one morning and said "God Spoke to Me and said 'Bush is the Devil' and we need to drive him out."

Jones at least has some conscience and sense of humanity to honor those we've sent to die by putting those photos outside his office. Would that others had that courage.

(Have to admit he wasn't the most popular person for us NC Democrats especially with that "Freedom Fries" thing....but if he's now seen what the deal is with the Bushies he has some honor.) :shrug:
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 11:17 AM
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11. The repubs with a half a brain may be running for cover
Between the DSM and the news of the Iraq quagmire, repubs with half a brain will distance themselvse from the scandels and possible fall of this criminal administration.

KEEP THE PRESSURE ON


NEVER GIVE UP


:KICK:
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 11:21 AM
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12. "Freedom Fools" lmao -very good. n/t
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 11:24 AM
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14. Hey I am still trying to figure out how a war in Iraq
is protecting our freedom????
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 11:54 AM
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16. You refer to the question that must not be asked by the American media.
Even when polls are beginning to show the American people finally waking up to what the Downing Street Memo spells out in black and white. Too many Americans believed what "their President" told them about Iraq.

The corrupt media, on the other hand, acted without honor, and cheerled the nation to war for increased ratings and financial gain.
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DuaneBidoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 11:55 AM
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17. The question: is he still pissed off at French for being more perceptive
than he was?
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DuaneBidoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 11:55 AM
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18. He owes the French an apology for daring to be right.
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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 12:07 PM
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19. I admire Walter Jones
He attended funerals of those who died in the war and was so moved by what he heard that he began to question the war and the lies that were told to justify it.

He said he is voting his conscience no matter what the consequences are to his chances for re-election. America needs more Republicans to be like Walter Jones.

I'm sure Jones is off the White House Christmas list by now. The question is whether Rove will be able to take him down in the primary.

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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 01:18 PM
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22. any congressperson who was vocally for this war and then speaks out
against it is pretty ok with me
considering the climate that is politics it takes guts. this is someone who actually believes what he states instead of the puppetry we get from the likes of santorum mehlman etc

by the way - on the subject of speaking your gut-wrenching feelings.... did you see dan rather on cspan last night talking to the investigative reporters and editors conference in denver?
very moving. mr rather so clearly loves this country and knows what is going on out there, he encouraged these people to not be fearful in their reporting
wow. he choked back tears several times
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 06:02 PM
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27. He struck me as a man of integrity, in the best Southern gentleman way
He was intelligent, thoughtful, and able to explain his convictions. He stands for what he believes is right. the Freedom Fries thing was obviously misguided, and he sees that now. I'm willing to forgive him that mistake, especially in light of the principled stand he is taking now.

Reminded me of Mr. Smith goes to Washington in a way.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 01:08 PM
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21. Jones may have figured out that Chimpco was wrong on Iraq...
..But he's still drinking the Kool Aid, because he made references to Iran and North Korea, in the context that invading those countries might still be neccessary, but impossible with troops tied up in Iraq.

Wally, here's a clue: If they lied about Iraq, then they lied about ALL of it.
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Chauga Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 04:44 PM
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25. Jones is a nutjob but at least he's making sense about Iraq
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DarienComp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 05:17 PM
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26. Why does Walter Jones HATE FREEDOM?!!?!!
:eyes:
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Spectral Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 06:41 PM
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28. We must be losing over in Iraq
And Mr. Freedom Fries is the guy the party picked to let * know that the game is up because his administration couldn't win it.
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Geek_Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 06:59 PM
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29. Are any of these Ass Hats Running for re-election
I hope this is genuine and not some ploy to win over voters since their pro-war poll numbers are going south.
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