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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 11:34 AM
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The Impeachability of the Bush Administration
Introduction
First off, I'd like to start by saying that this isn't about impeaching Bush. The subject is clearly about the Impeachment of the Administration. The entire administration, even those who we may find more politically palatable than the rest, need to go given the recent findings in the numerous leaked minutes, reports and internal secret communications of the British government.

Secondly, it is obvious, someone high up in the British government has the moral fortitude, bravery and patriotism to do what's right, not just for Great Britain, not just for the American people, but for the entire free world as we *used* to know it.

Let us address the validity of the documents, for we must have authentic documents to be considered evidence. No government officials, British or U.S., have denied the authenticity, despite what party leader, Mehlman, has said. Any statements that have questioned the authenticity of the document have been soundly defeated, at times by the press directly addressing the point during questioning. <5> British and U.S. officials have passively acknowledged the validity of the documents, and instead have only tried to question the contents of the documents, saying either they represent opinion, are out of context, or mean something completely different. This is a weak argument at best and demands *and* requires an investigation to get to the truth.

Impeachment
Now, let's move on to the question of impeachment. I will say that there is now plenty of hard evidence now to proceed. The leaked internal secret communications of the British government corroborate the testimony of Richard Clarke <1>, the statements in Clarke's <2>, Woodward's <3> and Senator Graham's books <4>, that had been dismissed by the administration as invalid due to the limited access given to these people. I will remind the reader that Clarke *never* gave testimony that the Bush administration was pre-occupied with Iraq prior to 9-11 or in the summary of 2002, but only testified to the effect that Bush's re-allocation of resources to Iraq instead of focusing on Al Qaeda have only caused more terrorism against the U.S. and its allies:

" Hostility toward the US in the Islamic world has increased since 9-11, largely as a result of the invasion and occupation of Iraq."

Clarke's testimony, while damning the incompetency of the administration, in and of itself does not constitute an impeachable offense. And that is why, until the leaked secret communications of the British government, there has not been enough evidence to impeach.

What is required for impeachment? Section 4 of the U.S. Constitution states <6>:

"The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors."

I'd like to also note that Section 3, Clause 1 also states that a conviction of impeachment is an exception to the executive branch's power of pardon.

We start with bribery and treason. No evidence to date demonstrates the crime of bribery. Let's consider treason. Section 3, Clause 1 of the U.S. Constitution states:

"Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court."

If the contents of the Downing Street Minutes <7> and the newly leaked set of secret communications that shows the British Ministers being requested to create reasons for war <8>, then one could say that creating reasons to bring the U.S. to war is in effect 'levying War' against the U.S. If you cause someone to pick a fight with the U.S., by proxy, you are fighting the U.S. This is in effect what was done by the Bush Administration. They colluded with Britain <7>, bombed Iraqi targets in 2002 <10> in an effort to provoke Iraq into U.N. Security Council resolution violation and furthermore asked the British government to create justification for war <8>. This again is corroborating evidence for other challenged testimony that's out there, specifically the statement that the Administration illegally re-allocated $700 million dollars from the war in Afghanistan to the War in Iraq in July of 2002! <11> It's not what many would argue as direct treason (aiding and assisting the enemy), but then again, that definition is being pushed by the republican party recently with respect to Mark Felt, a.k.a. "Deep Throat". In fact, Attorney General Gonzales contemplated charging Mr. Felt with treason <9>. What the administration has done is no less than directly cause the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians, 1700 American soldiers and the wounding of tens of thousands of American soldiers to the point permanent disability.

If treason can not be successfully argued as a result of the secret communications of the British government, surely, there are high-crimes here.

Constitutional Attorney John Bonifaz makes the case for these high-crimes in his letter to Congressman John Conyers <12>. At a minimum he calls for an investigation, but lays the case for the following potential crimes:

A. "Conspiracy to deceive and mislead the United States Congress and the American people as to the basis for taking the nation into war against Iraq"

B. " Manipulated intelligence so as to allege falsely a national security threat posed to the United States by Iraq"

C. "George W. Bush, President of the United States, has committed a felony by submitting a false report to the United States Congress on the reasons for launching a first-strike invasion of Iraq"


Others have been calling for the impeachment of the Bush administration, but now their articles are much more credible given the continuing stream of secret communications leaking from the British government. One particular site that includes violation of the Geneva convention and the use of torture to obtain false statements for continuing attacks and warfare is the "Vote To Impeach" site. Their articles are at: http://impeachbush.pephost.org/site/PageServer?pagename=VTI_articles .

Feasibility of Impeachment
Many, including bloggers here at Democratic Underground, have argued that even if there is massive support by the public to even bring articles of impeachment to the table, the articles will never leave the House Judiciary Committee due to partisan politics. Given the recent actions of Congressmen Sensenbrenner, there is very little chance that in spite of massive and mounting evidence against the administration, that these republican congressmen will allow an investigation, let alone articles of impeachment, to leave committee. This is the shame of our nation, that we have become a state ruled by one party that holds its agenda and politics above that of the American people. What is required is massive outrage by the public to demand an investigation and a hearing. If we don't we are passively approving of these crimes by the administration. If we do mount a successful public pressuring of the Congress, then any who thwart that effort would likely have stood by Hitler when he gassed millions of innocent people.

Sources
<1> 911 Commission hearings, Richard Clarke's testimony: http://www.9-11commission.gov/hearings/hearing8/clarke_statement.pdf

<2> Clarke, Richard, "Against All Enemies", ISBN: 0743260244

<3> Woodward, Bob, "Plan of Attack", ISBN: 074325547X

<4> Graham, Bob, and Nussbaum, Jeff, "Intelligence Matters", ISBN: 1400063523

<5> The Washington Post, June 7, http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/07/AR2005060700474_2.html

<6> The U.S. Constitution Online: http://www.house.gov/Constitution/Constitution.html

<7> The Times Online: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1593607,00.html

<8> The Times Online: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1650822,00.html

<9> http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=1828205 (original link on Newsday is no longer available).

<10> The Times Online: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1632566,00.html

<11> http://www.buzzflash.com/analysis/05/06/ana05019.html

<12> http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=5




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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 11:39 AM
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1. kicked and nominated....
Awesome post!
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 12:09 PM
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5. A people united can never be defeated.
They are unaware that "consent" can be withdrawn.




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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 11:42 AM
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2. Kicked and nominated
:kick:

:applause:
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 11:44 AM
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3. kick!
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 11:58 AM
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4. I'd like to see the RICO ACT applied.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 01:06 PM
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6. Wow, interesting point
For more info on RICO, here's a very good link:

http://www.ricoact.com/

Since we are *just* discovering real evidence of a RICO-applicable crime, the Supreme Court has said we have 4 years to bring it to trial (to avoid the S.C. applied statute).

Furthermore, according to U.S. Constitution, the administration would need to be found guilty first during impeachment and then tried seperately under the RICO act. But I don't see why it doesn't apply.

Excellent idea.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 09:14 AM
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23. Yeah, this administration makes the mafia look like a schoolyard bully.
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chalky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 02:44 PM
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7. Kicked, bookmarked and recommended! n/t
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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 03:39 PM
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8. Recommended
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 04:10 PM
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9. OK, So ...
Who's "politically palatable" in this administration?
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 04:16 PM
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10. Some who have resigned
who were in office during this scandal...

Such as Secretary of the Treasury Paul H. O'Neill. He knows something (most likely why he resigned) and needs to be investigated (even if he's not charged because he refused to participate).
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 04:28 PM
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11. If Congress won't investigate this misadministration
then why can't we do private investigations?

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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 06:50 PM
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12. Point "B" is the one to run with: "Who's the REAL terrorist?"
We simply need to put it to We The People:

"What are you more terrorized by -- a ruler who tells you (falsely) that WMDs could be here in 45 minutes, or 20 guys with boxcutters??"

Pretty simple decision.

When you add to that 2 elections stolen (from the People), looting of the (People's) treasury, running "torturers 'r us" (in the name of the People), and trashing nearly every diplomatic, military, ecological and economic partnership built over decades (for the People) -- you're left with the hanging question:

Who exactly is the biggest enemy of Real Americans at the moment?

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BamaBecky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 08:21 PM
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13. Why can't we add all the 911 EVIDENCE to this growing list? n/t
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 08:47 PM
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14. Please check this source out...
www.recallthecongress.com

>>>>snip

To impeach George Bush for war crimes and covertly implementing PNAC, we have to get a handle on our congress men and women.

This website is created to organize local state efforts to petition the Secretary of State or other official of each state in which laws have been established for the recall process of public officials. There are 26 states in which such laws have been established leaving 24 states in which an effort is required to petition the state legislature for enactment of such a law or alternatively where the initiative has been made law to use that vehicle to bring each state of the nation into a parity of power of its citizens to control the Federal government.

Link for those less legally minded to understand the scope of this site

Status of the lawsuit
Click on http://foundersfreedomdefensefund.blogspot.com/

>>>>snip

Objectives of We the People

To kick George W. Bush out of office, send him packing to Crawford Texas and to seek his future trial for war crimes in the docks of the International Court of Criminal Justice. To this add Dick Cheney and his rogue companions.
That We the People gain control over the Senate and House of Representatives whereby they are bound to perform according to their commitments to We the People or get booted out of office by state court upon complaint of We the People.
To teach the President and the Congress that We the People own America and the government and that every person in each of those entities is in our employ and subject to our termination by way of our reserved electoral right of recall.
To establish that the right of the people to recall members of the US Senate or the House of Representatives is a right not prohibited within the Constitution and is thus reserved to the electors of the States contrary to common myth.
To firmly establish the right of We the People to veto any acts of the Congress within 48 hours of passage which veto is final and cannot be overridden by the Congress.
To establish by use of the recall that We the People are the backbone of our government, not its vassals and that the government must respond to the will of We the People.
Not the last and not the least is that we must re-establish fiscal responsibility to this nation which is heading for bankruptcy under the present administration with the aid and assistance of our congressional delegates.






We the people of the United States

face the greatest challenge in the history of our country

It is greater than the Revolutionary war by which our country was given birth. It is greater than the Civil war which preserved the union.

It is greater than World War II which was waged to eliminate the evils of fascism from the earth. It is unprecedented in world history!




It is indeed a rebirth of fascism in our time in our own country by those who have hijacked the government from their seat in the Administration and by their accomplices within the Congress along with all other inept members of the Congress who have allowed this tragedy to come upon us. Most of these are descendants of fathers who fought and some who died in World War II to free the world of fascism. Don’t know what PNAC is? Most Americans don’t. Read up on it http://www.crisispapers.org/Editorials/PNAC-Primer.htm

How did it happen? By lies and deception and by placing the Nation under a state of fear. But not by accident. It was a well orchestrated event including 9/11 and all the suspicions surrounding it. For 9/11 was a needed event ( As stated by the paper itself) ( Sin of Omission) to implement the Project for the New American Century (PNAC) and first kicked into gear by the ill-informed interference of the US Supreme Court in a States Right matter of the election fraud in Florida in 2000. That interference resulted in an illegal electoral college vote for George W. Bush.

It was further encouraged in 2004 by a conspiracy of silence among members of the Congress on both sides of the aisle to not speak of fascism or PNAC during the election campaign which they knew or must have known was taking over America. Members of Congress who knew and were silent are guilty of treason and high crimes against the country. If they didn’t know they are inept and should be kicked out of their offices as quickly as possible. We don’t need a rubber stamp congress to the further the evil empire builder George W. Bush.

I won’t go into the parallels between September 11, 2001 and February 27,1933 when Germany began to lose its democracy and the Third Reich fascist government began. Thom Hartman has done an excellent job of that. Thom Hartman | When Democracy Failed - 2005: The Warnings of History http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0222-22.htm

We cannot allow George Bush and company to entrench our country any deeper into the un-godly agenda of PNAC. Every American needs to stand up, listen, read and learn what is going on then decide to do something positive about it. I have suggested an:



American Revolution 2005

It needs to be done beginning now and by our use of the powers vested in WE the People
Volunteers needed in all 50 states. If you have the spirit of America’s founders and wish to participate in a non-violent recapture of the freedoms associated with the founding of America, please step forward and make yourself known. A coordinated effort in all 50 states will put America back where it belongs as a nation in a brotherhood of nations.

Contact me for state organizational plans. d.a.wallace@sbcglobal.net For starters copy, paste and print the following document and send it to each member of your state congressional delegation with a request they sign it and file it with the state secretary of states office.



UNILATERAL CONGRESSIONAL CONTRACT

State of ___________________________________
To Be Filed in the State Secretary of State's Office



(SPACE RESERVED FOR FILING STAMP)




For and in consideration of continued employment of the people of the State of ________________________,the undersigned member of the United States Congress hereby pledges to the electorate of the above named state, that I will actively work and vote to promote the impeachment of George W. Bush as President of the United States, Richard Cheney, Vice President and other civil servants involved for their conduct in:

Lying to the Congress and the public in order obtain support for the illegal war against Iraq.
For implementing the white paper of a Non Government Organization Known as the Project for the New American Century (PNAC) titled “Rebuilding Americas Defenses” which calls for global military dominance of the United States with unilateral pre-emptive military strikes against any nation deemed a threat to that dominance.
For violating international law in invading Iraq and for the deaths of innocent Iraqis and resulting unnecessary deaths and maiming of our own troops.
For using fear as a mechanism to establish fascism within the government.
In making this pledge, I understand that I will not be subject to recall by my constituency. I waive constitutional rights, if any, relating to continuity of my holding office and understand that in the event of failure on my part to perform as stated within a reasonable time from date, I may be removed from office by a complaint made to a competent court of my state by 3 or more members of my constituency. My only defense being a showing of performance.

This pledge relates only to the issue of the impeachment of George W. Bush, et al. I understand that from time to time there may be other issues which will require my pledge of support.



Dated this ________Day of _________________, 2005

______________________________________
Printed Name of Signator

______________________________________

Signature

______________________________________

Office held














Witnessed by: _______________________________________

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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 09:56 PM
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18. This is excellent.
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 08:57 PM
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15. Good Post! eom
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 09:10 PM
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16. Thank you. Recommended. n/t
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 09:36 PM
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17. Keeping this kicked!
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 10:11 PM
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19. Superb. Bookmarked. (nt)
Peace.


http://www.intelligencesquad.com/id118.html


www.missionnotaccomplished.us - Please, everyone, don't stop at 500,000 signatures; don't stop at 10,000,000 signatures; don't stop until Bush and the neoconsters are indicted and prosecuted for their heinous crimes against humanity and our Constitution.

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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 10:16 PM
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20. Awesome Graph!
I'm gonna make that my desktop image!

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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 11:54 PM
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21. Brilliant Graph! Checkout Tim Robbins New Video & Web Site, too
Tim Robbins "Embedded Live" at: http://www.embeddedlive.com/

And these interesting linked articles: http://www.embeddedlive.com/did_you_know.html

Michael Moore's site is getting into the heavy thick of things, too:
http://www.michaelmoore.com/
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ngGale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 12:06 AM
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22. Absolutely wonderful post...
Kicked, bookmarked and nominated. :kick:
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 09:37 AM
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24. I also heard Tony Blair gave him a Bee-Jay in the Oval Office
that oughta get the republicans' panties in a bunch.
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 11:29 AM
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25. Any legal experts who can answer the following quesiton for me?
If we are able to successfully argue for impeachment (even with the current GOP stranglehold on our nation) but BushCo is aquitted, is that the end? Is it impossible to prosecute BushCo ever again?

I'm just wondering. Because I agree with the OP that it is the great shame of our nation that "we have become a state ruled by one party that holds its agenda and politics above that of the American people" but that is unfortunately our reality. George Bush could go before Congress and slit the throats of puppies while simultaneously having a three-way with Dick Cheney and Karl Rove on a bed of burning American flags and there are plenty of RW idiots who would still call him a hero.

My goal is to see BushCo impeached and convicted of their crimes. Does that mean we'd be better off waiting until 2006 when we can hopefully get more Dems elected?
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 11:39 AM
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26. If we are going to succeed...
It isn't legalities that matter, it's politics. That is the way the system is designed.

While we have something to hang over the RW politicians' heads (the threat of being compared to Nazis standing beside Hitler) and possibly losing their 2006 bid, there is a chance they will support impeachment hearings.

That chance is directly related to the threat to their losing their seat. The bigger the threat, the more likely they are to go along with the popular choice. It's up to us to make the impeachment choice the popular one.

If we wait until after 2006 and we still do not have a majority in the house/senate, then there is absolutely nothing hanging over their heads... no motivation to impeach.

If the administration is impeached and found innocent in the senate, then we have done what we can and history will need to sort it all out. At a minimum, the administration will lose most of its governming power and respect. Given that the evidence is overwhelming, I can't see Bush wanting to go through the process. The administration knows they are guilty and the best they can hope for is strict party compliance. I don't believe they will get that.

In the end, whatever happens, I will be able to sleep at night knowing that I fought to investigate and bring to light the illegal practices this government has chosen to implement. I, as a citizen, will have served my country. Those who stand in the way are the ones who are against our country.
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 11:53 AM
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27. You give the GOP more credit than I do then.
Because I believe BushCo has every reason to expect strict party compliance. They've done it all along, even when they all have to tell outright and ridiculous lies. Lies that can be easily refuted with a 30-second search on any news website.

That's not to say that I won't fight for impeachment. I actually do see it being the popular choice. I just want so badly to see BushCo convicted and I don't know how that's going to happen.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 03:32 PM
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28. So what's going on
It seems like DU, Conyers, and other sites have nearly gone DARK on this issue. WTF?

:wtf:
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 12:36 PM
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29. Great work.
My strategy is to bring Blair before an international court, obtain all the documents and get the global eye focused on the wrongs through that process and then compel the impeachment of Bush based on the documents and evidence produced in Blair's trial. Only an international court can determine whether Blair and Bush violated international law by going into Iraq without a UN authorization.

In his speech to Parliament on March 7, 2003, Goldsworthy who is Blair's attorney general suggested no country would have the standing to bring and action against Blair in an international court. Is that true? Couldn't Spain bring an action? The Spanish were duped into supporting the war and sending troops. I can't believe that they too were aware that Bush was trying to manufacture grounds for going into Iraq. What about Italy (related to the Sgrini affair)? Could they bring charges?
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