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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 08:06 PM
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For the record: Wes Clark Proud of Howard Dean
Edited on Sun Jun-12-05 08:13 PM by WesDem
Wes spoke tonight at the Annual Flag Day Dinner--Manchester City Democratic Committee in New Hampshire.

According to WesPAC:

General Clark in his remarks reminded us that we owe it to ourselves and our party to rise above bitter name calling and partisan fighting so we can, as a nation tackle the tough challenges ahead. He said he was proud of our party and proud of Howard Dean for being a fighter.


C-Span was there taping, so his entire speech should be on at some point.

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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 08:07 PM
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1. That is why I support Clark in 2008!
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 08:08 PM
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2. Amen! Clark! eom
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 08:10 PM
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3. Is Wes the Best or what? Supports Dean, Opposed Iraq, is a "libera"
by his own admission.

He's my candidate for 2008, regardless of what Bob Novak says.

Let's make sure they don't steal it from us again.

Contact the DNC and Give 'em Hell About NOT Acting on Election Fraud

NEW LEADERS FOR A NEW DEMOCRATIC PARTY

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FightingIrish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 08:23 PM
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4. Clarke was my first choice in 2004
but I busted my ass for John Kerry once he was the nominee. Let's start building Clark's 2008 campaign now while we witness the wheels coming off the * administration. I think Clark can unite the party and appeal to a lot of disillusioned Republicans. I like Dean stirring up a hornet's nest. From Cheney's remarks I would say he is having an impact.
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Donna Zen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 08:40 PM
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9. Are you now or have you ever been...
Edited on Sun Jun-12-05 08:42 PM by Donna Zen
a card carrying member of WesPAC?

:-)

We want the General's voice out there because he has the credentials to take on the republicans where they live. Wes Clark spent his life earning an average of $50,000 a year, he has no congressional staff and must pay for the trips he makes, only the "roots" can keep him going.

People think I post about Clark because of '08, actually, we need him out there in '06...he can call them out on Iraq and so many other things.

There...I said it. I'm done.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 08:24 PM
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5. There ya go.....
A man after my own heart.

He understand that fighters are what we need!

He didn't say...."I'll kick the shit out of them"....speaking about the Republicans, for nothing!

There will be no fucking retreat!

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MODemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 08:32 PM
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6. Mighty good endorsement
I'm proud of both General Clark and Howard Dean.
Both are fighters and just what we need on our side.

:toast: :dem:
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 08:35 PM
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7. YEEEAARGGHH!
:toast:
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 09:19 PM
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19. I just heard
There was big applause at the Dean line.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 09:21 PM
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20. It's not surprising!
Not at all. :toast:
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 08:37 PM
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8. Thanks General!
I was hoping he'd come out on the correct side of this one.
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 08:42 PM
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10. GO WES!!! Can't wait to see it on C-SPAN!!!!
He's my candidate....
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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 08:42 PM
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11. love general clark!
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Texas_Kat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 08:50 PM
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12. Clark has said time and again that Democrats need to defend Democrats
He's always been one to put his actions where his mouth is.

Wes isn't a 2% Democrat.... He's 100%. The real thing!

Go Wes! Go Howard!
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 08:54 PM
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14. I like, too
That it was in the course of ordinary speechmaking, not in a media trap, but voluntarily offering his opinion. He would have said the same thing had he been asked, but it's nice he didn't need to be asked.
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CarolNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 08:53 PM
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13. I saw this....Yeah Wes! Yeah Howard!
Actually posted about it on the CSpan Clark thread.

Sure are a lot of Clark threads on the board tonight....Hope the Clark detractors don't get too upset....
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 08:56 PM
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15. That was a smart move by Dean...and it's nice to know that Clark
approved of his strategy...stratigist that he is!!!!

The media has hardly mentioned Dean...someone even had a post recently asking...Where's Dean? Well now we know and the media can't stop talking about him. Woohoo! Clark and Dean are going to be our salvation. I can't wait!
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 09:02 PM
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16. Hooo-Ray!

Team Wes Clark
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 09:06 PM
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17. What's even more great is that Wes is the keynote speaker in
this key state. And - he's laying in on the line, from what I hear from the live bloggers!

:woohoo:
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 09:09 PM
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18. I knew he'd stick up for Dean.
Clark and Dean are both fighters, and we need them desperately. Biden and Lieberman and the rest of the DLC losers should just pack up their pink tutus and go the hell away.
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AaronforAmerica Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 09:47 PM
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21. Great to see Dems united
Its great to see the Dems united, especially for the next coming month while the Republicans are feuding and we can still win a few battles in the Senate. I have a feeling we're gonna see General Clark being a lot for vocal this summer and interacting more with netroots activists as the impending Supreme Court nomination comes.

I was hoping some of you may want to help with a petition that several of us former Clark campaign staff members have put up and also get some feedback. I hope you check it out:

www.stopjohnbolton.com

Thanks!
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 09:58 PM
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22. Welcome to DU, Aaron!
:hi:

Any supporter of Wes Clark is a friend of mine! :hug:
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 10:48 PM
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31. Signed, thanks nt
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 10:01 PM
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23. Clark and Dean are more alike than it appears
I'm damn proud both of them are Democrats. Thank you Wes Clark! :applause: :patriot:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 10:03 PM
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24. I heard that Clark said
about the dems criticizing Dean..

"Right after Biden criticized Dean, Clark came out with a line about Democrats needing to look out for each other and only attack this administration."

Smart man..I feel like Michael Moore did after Clark stood up for him!
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CarolNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 06:51 AM
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49. you watch
Any time that Clark has an opportunity to criticize a fellow Dem he will turn it around to criticism of the Administration. Other Dems would be wise to do the same....We really aren't going to win anything if we don't act like we're in this together...and it's SO IMPORTANT that we start winning something....
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 10:04 PM
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25. Another opportunity to display my sig pix.
Here they are now!
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 10:08 PM
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26. Great American heros!
Gives a whole new meaning to the idea of the "Super Friends" and the "League of Justice."

:D
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 10:12 PM
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27. I never doubted it.. Clark appreciates another fighter.
Did you ever see this quote from Clark, taken from some magazine interview he once did:

"Somebody once told me in business that when you're
going to negotiate a business deal, you stake out
(Clark slams the table) your position and stand on it!
Don't go in there and ask what they want. Say, `Here's
what I want!' (slams table again).
"You've got a Republican Party under Gingrich and Tom
DeLay that says, `Here's what I want' (slams table
again.) "Then you've got the Democrats over here
saying, `Yeah, ah, yeah, we could, some of what you
say makes pretty good sense.

"The result is the American people don't see the full
spectrum. Before the 2002 election there were a lot of
Democratic politicians apparently who said, `I don't
have the information. I can't battle with the
president on the information. He's got the
intelligence. What if there is a smoking gun in there?
I can't fight the president in my congressional
district.'

"What we've got to do is stake (slams table again) out
our position. For instance on tax reform, stop (slam)
saying (slam) you agree with simplification of the tax
code. . . . We stand (slam) for progressive taxation.
We're proud of it. If you make more, you should pay
more, period!"
Wesley Clark

Howard Dean is a Democrat who understands that. Of course Clark is proud of him.

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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 10:21 PM
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28. The old slam the table technique
Gotta love Wes :loveya:
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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 11:04 PM
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33. Love that quote!
Edited on Sun Jun-12-05 11:11 PM by Clarkie1
It's one of my top three Wes quotes!

Edit: imagine Clark at Oval Office desk, slamming fist on desk and staking out positions to Republican minority leaders in congress.

It can happen if we make it happen!
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 04:39 PM
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45. I love that quote, never heard it before, Tom
Wes Clark is a priceless asset to the Party.
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FourStarDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 10:43 PM
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29. Bravo! Clark is a man of integrity who sticks to his guns.
Clark realizes who the *real* enemy is, and he knows that Democrats who tear each other apart only end up hurting and weakening themselves. Clark is a real uniter, and a fighter for principles like Howard Dean.
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 10:44 PM
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30. I knew Clark would be proud!
Dean is a fighter! He doesn't let up!
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trillian Donating Member (432 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 10:57 PM
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32. Wes loves people who have starch!!
I'm not surprised he stood up for Dean.

:bounce:
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Donna Zen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 11:07 PM
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34. "Get Some Starch!"
A WesPAC blogger who has been making buttons and handing them out for free, gave out at least a hundred tonight at the Flag Day Dinner. It's the General's favorite of the buttons, sporting one of the blogs favorite Wesquotes: Get Some Starch!

Dean has starch... and now some lucky members of tonight's audience have buttons to remind them of what it takes to be a Democrat.

As for the General? He's got starch to spare. Besides, it's his order to all of us...

...and yes, we must rise up and offer to heal our country's deep divides upon which no house can stand.
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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 11:18 PM
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36. Way cool!!!!
:thumbsup:
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 11:32 PM
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38. He's such a cornball
Who the hell says "Get some starch!" :D

But I so clearly remember him saying it. When Congress is not doing what we think they should be doing, tell Congress, "Get some starch!"

:loveya:

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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 07:33 AM
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42. I so clearly remembered wrong.
Wes was talking about Democrats who start saying "maybe Bush was right about Iraq" -- Get some starch!!
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 11:09 PM
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35. The man is about as close to perfect as I could imagine in a president!
Clark 2008, for the sake of America! :kick:
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 11:25 PM
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37. Nice to hear from Clark
I can't wait to see that on CSPAN. :) I'm glad he supports Dean as well.

:toast:
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 11:51 PM
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39. clark and dean were big enough to fight for kerry and edwards n/t
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 01:07 AM
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41. Amen!
:kick:
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ngGale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 11:53 PM
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40. Good for Clark...
he wasn't one to keep his mouth shut much either. :toast:
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trillian Donating Member (432 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 09:34 AM
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43. Agree!
Clark is never afraid to speak up.

:patriot:
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Texas_Kat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 02:17 PM
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44. The quote:
In case anyone missed it!

snip

He stood behind Democratic National Chairman Howard Dean, who has been criticized by fellow party members for making comments that were perceived as inflammatory.

“I’m proud of Howard Dean. I’m proud of our party,” Clark said. “I’m proud of the fact that we are Americans speaking out.”


http://www.theunionleader.com/articles_showfast.html?article=56196
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 04:45 PM
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46. "We owe it to ourselves and our party to rise above bitter name calling"
This is bigger than just defending Dean, it's a message about defending all Democrats.

DU, Kos, and other public progressive forums, are you listening?
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cajones_II Donating Member (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 04:49 PM
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47. WES CLARK IS A TEAM PLAYER
he's not concerned with DC insider bullshit agendas.

I really admire this guy's style.
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kittenpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 10:07 PM
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48. He's got my vote if he decides to run. n/t
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