OMG! CNN's own words: IMPEACH BUSH

[berni_mccoy]

Note the date on this:

http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/06/06/findlaw.analysis.dean.wmd/

"President George W. Bush has got a very serious problem. Before asking Congress for a joint resolution authorizing the use of U.S. military forces in Iraq, he made a number of unequivocal statements about the reason the United States needed to pursue the most radical actions any nation can undertake -- acts of war against another nation."

"There are two main possibilities. One, that something is seriously wrong within the Bush White House's national security operations. That seems difficult to believe. The other is that the president has deliberately misled the nation, and the world. "

[kliljedahl]

1. By John Dean?

Pot meet kettle


Keith’s Barbeque Central

[Inland]

5. Or someone who's seen it before.

No illusions there, right?

[Kolesar]

6. Give him some credit

He has figured Bush out and trying to enlighten the United States, or more correctly, those who have been lied to in the United States.

[longship]

14. John Dean is a good guy.

He's been writing about CuckooBananas for some time now, always in the same vein as this article.

He's the one Watergate person who, from the moment the mess hit hard, has taken the path of truth. John Dean is an honorable person who deserves respect, IMHO.

[Eloriel]

25. Absolutely. He's one of my all-time personal heroes.

I'll NEVER, for as long as I live, forget his testimony during the Senate Watergate hearings. It was stellar. He seemed to have a near photographic memory, and he was clearly simply brilliant, well-spoken (as he is now when you see him on TV), and, as you say, honorable.

I adore him.

AND, he's still married to his wife Maureen ("Mo"), who was simply beautiful and quite elegant back then.

[Daphne08]

31. I'll never forget it either.

Never.

Dean was articulate, intelligent and yes, quite honorable, despite all the revisionism we've seen lately concerning Watergate.

They can't fool all of us since many of us are old enough to remember it!

Maureen was there every single day sitting behind him.

[longship]

32. Mo at the Watergate hearings.

I've heard that Mo's appearance at the Senate Watergate Hearings was orchestrated. She normally wore her hair down, in a more stylish manner, but it was thought that if she played the role of the conservative, loyal wife there would be more sympathy for her husband. That was the origin of the severe pulled back style. Or, so I've heard.

If that was true, it worked. Not that John Dean needed sympathy. His testimony in front of the Senate blew the Watergate case wide open.

Here's Mo at the Senate hearings.

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

66. according to jim hougan in "Secret Agenda"

she was a call girl servicing democrats and john dean's girlfriend at the time of the break-in and watergate was john dean's idea.

[calimary]

76. Amen! John Dean is a good guy. And yes, here the pot-kettle effect

figures in, too. He, of all people, would be CERTAIN to know and to speak with credibility about impeachment-related issues.

Yes, he's a good guy. He saw the light a long time ago. If you followed his writings on findlaw.com, you'd see he had many misgivings about these jackals practically from the beginning. He's clear-sighted, intelligent, informed, and has been there and back. And yes, Eloriel, he was breathtaking during the Senate Watergate hearings. Breathtaking! I'll never forget it, either. I was mesmerized by his testimony, his composure, and his near-total recall. I think most of the nation was. He came off as extremely credible. And it was he who uttered that exquisite quote (paraphrased): "there is a cancer on the presidency. And it's growing bigger and more deadly every day."

He knows it when he sees it. I wish more people would listen to him. I'm surprised CNN even lets him on the air.

[FreedomAngel82]

33. I think with him

telling the truth about Bush and coming forward with all that in his book "Worse then Watergate" and keeping on whether online or whatever he's been doing good. He has experience in this and knows what he's talking about I think.

[Shrubhater]

2. That's not very surprising.

CNN is liberal.

[Goldmund]

7. Huh?

[mahina]

15. CNN is liberal? Could you please support that with proof?

I would be so very interested to learn what basis in fact you have to support that conclusion. I have concluded that they are working for corporate control of our governmnent, (=fascism.) They failed to report on Bush's missed year in the Guard, his giant tax cuts for zillionaires resulting in a catastrophic debt load we owe to communist china, loss of 1700 American lives and thousands more wounded for a war based on greed into which we were coaxed with LIES which CNN did no better job reporting on than Fox, the head war cheerleader. They have not allowed the truth into the homes of Americans but drip feed us sugar water instead of real information. As democracy depends on an informed electorate and they are misinforming us, they are anti-American in their actions. Their constant negative portrayal of progressive candidates and failure to hold the Bush Crime Empire to the light of day kind of refutes you assertion there buddy.
Whoops.
I'll check back later for your insights all about how CNN is liberal. Really interested.

[Shrubhater]

16. Huh, the only proof I have is that someone told me.

[mahina]

18. Do you feel kind of silly?

Or...something?

Gee you hate George Bush? I absolutely despise the way he has divided us as a country and bankrupted us and killed our military for oil, but I don't hate the man. Do you? Really?

[buff2]

29. I hate the bastard

I'm not ashamed to admit it,either.

[mod mom]

49. * and his cronies are responsible for over 100,000 deaths, has caused our

world to be more unstable with the proliferation of terrorism, ruined countless lives, taken a surplus into our nation's largest deficit (so his war mongering friends can reap profits), caused serious damage to our environment, eroded civil liberties and has passed the notorious (un)patriot act, etc. You ask if we hate the man. I hate all EVIL and * is EVIL!

[mahina]

67. I dind't ask if we hate him.

I asked if "Shrubhater" who tells us that CNN is liberal hates him.
But I feel you.

[Shrubhater]

68. No offense here, but the answer to your question is as follows:

DUH! BTW, I saw your message in my inbox. What's a troll?

[mahina]

69. Okey dokey!

Hope you liked the links to real progressive news. Your question strains even my optimism, good luck honey.

[Shrubhater]

70. Do you mean my question about what a troll is? Because I was serious.

:hi:

[snowbear]

19. Someone at say.... Free Republic?

:shrug:

[mahina]

23. Someone on Fox News said that Howard Dean was nuts,

and that CNN is liberal, and that the Iraq war is fighting for Freedom (Tm) and that John Kerry with two purple hearts was a coward but our AWOL president was a hero. But I hear Howard Dean speak and he makes all the sense in the world, and I don't see our freedoms endangered by Iraqis but by our own government, and John Kerry did what he did, and W did as well. But when they edit Howard Dean down to two seconds and play one clip over and over and over...you would ALMOST think they were trying to manufacture public opinion with propaganda, or something, wouldn't you?

Ya, it stinks to me too, I'm hoping we have an open mind here rather than a troll. I'm amazed at how little friends of mine see non-corporate news. They didn't know it was available. Here's hoping!

Hey here's a giggle for you: http://www.netdisaster.com/go.php?mode=eggs&url=http://www.rnc.org/

Meteors are good too!

[snowbear]

28. LOL... I thought that was real at first....

And I was about ready to eggsit.. er.. exit.. LOL.. :rofl:

[mahina]

30. It is real. you can plug in any website you want.

OK I really was enjoying it and my 16 year old walked in and asked me why the big grin...I know it's childish but I'll take my giggles where I can. Off to egg pigboy, then bomb Fox with meteors.
Wheeee!

[AuntiBush]

36. Glad to see I wasn't the only 1 that caught the Dean "clipping!"

Cutting it like a knife! It was overwhelmingly obvious, as well.

[Steely_Dan]

44. One Person's....

...open mind is another person's Troll."

[dooner]

38. ha.. n/t

[Shrubhater]

85. Not that I know of.

My school's assistant principal told me that CNN was liberal.

[liberalhistorian]

86. Excuse me, but I have to jump in here.

Shrubhater is my son, and he's only fourteen years old. He is most assuredly NOT NOT NOT any kind of troll in any way, shape or form whatsoever and I really don't appreciate how everyone's jumped on him on this thread. He only recently started watching CNN in any kind of regular basis, and he's been told by some teachers and administrators at his school that CNN is liberal. He tends to take things very literally and didn't mean that as a trollish comment.

[TheWatcher]

43. Three Amazing things here.

1. You were actually brave enough to post that.
2. You actually expect to fool us with a Screen name like that and then post something like that.
3. You've actually made it to 650 Posts on this Board.

[Shrubhater]

60. Whoa, whoa, whoa, back up here! Let's look at what you said:

1. You were actually brave enough to post that. First of all, I wasn't being brave with ANYTHING. I seriously thought that CNN was liberal(because someone told me).

2. You actually expect to fool us with a Screen name like that and then post something like that. I wasn't trying to fool ANYBODY. And again, I thought CNN was liberal.
3. You've actually made it to 650 Posts on this Board. Why wouldn't I make it that far? I'm only 14, and I don't know nearly as much about the media outlets as most of you. So you were wrong with over TWO THIRDS of what you said.

[Freddie Stubbs]

48. Would a conservative organization publish this article?

http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/06/06/findlaw.analysis.dean.wmd/

[snowbear]

17. Uhhh..

You coming back to 'splain that one tonight? :o

[gumby]

22. Did you forget

the :sarcasm: thingy?

[Shrubhater]

61. No I didn't. I seriously thought CNN was liberal.

[Mr_Spock]

81. C'mon, nobody here thinks that - you don't have to read many posts

to know that's not true - please - when are you going to laugh at us all for taking you so seriously?

[jfern]

42. Maybe 10 years ago

Not any more

[OneTwentyoNine]

45. Yeah....I could tell how much CNN was against Chimps illegal invasion...

NOT!! CNN Liberal?? Go kick your friends ass for lying to you...

[RetroLounge]

47. WTF?

Have you actually watched it?

RL

[mod mom]

50. Does your name imply you are anti-environment-scrubhater? nt

[Shrubhater]

62. No. The shrub part of my screen name stands for *.

[Zhade]

72. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Are you fucking KIDDING me? LIBERAL?

:rofl:

[Shrubhater]

78. I was serious. Well, I WAS serious.

[Zhade]

82. Sorry, it was just so out there!

No hard feelings!

[Shrubhater]

83. By WAS I meant that at the time I posted it I was serious, but now I'm not

anymore.

[Zhade]

87. I understand, and please don't take my comment seriously.

I'm happy you don't think that way anymore. No harm no foul?

[Mr_Spock]

80. Huh? Explain that rediculous comment now!

No hit and run...

[Shrubhater]

84. I don't have to. Look at some of my other posts in this thread.

[Pinboy]

3. Actually, these are John Dean's words

This is an opinion column by John Dean. It does not represent the views of CNN.

[clydefrand]

4. Rather old piece, isn't it?

[cry baby]

8. WOW...the "I" work from CNN. J. Dean makes a pretty good

case for impeachment. I'm all for it! Can we impeach Cheney, too, while we're at it? He's probably the mastermind behind all of this.

[FreedomAngel82]

34. I think if you get Bush

you have to get them all. From Rice to Wolfowitz. The whole damn gang of thugs. Only person I wonder about is Karl Rove.

[AuntiBush]

37. Remember: No one voted KKKRove in. He's damaged goods, now.

He goes "out" w/the entire package.

[fooj]

40. No kidding! Who the hell gave him permission to hang in OUR house?

:patriot: Time to take out the trash!

[AuntiBush]

55. Think about it. Americans did not CHOOSE KKKROVE to Give Ideas

And orders like:

Trashing out societies security, namely Social Security.
And the rest of the long filthy, oily laundry list!

[geckosfeet]

9. I believe he made similar comments in the Iraq documentary that

came out in Feb/Mar 2003.

[camby]

10. OK - we're there - let's impeach the B*stard

Oh, only one problem.... the Republican majority in the House wouldn't dream of such a thing. The best we can hope for is gaining more Dems in 06 and THEN maybe getting the ball rolling.

[berni_mccoy]

13. No waiting... full court press onward

And claim that any republican congressman that stands in the way would have stood by Hitler as he gassed millions. This is what we need to do to make this happen. The threat of being unseated in an upcoming election is a much better position than letting them hold their seat and trying to convince them after. We just let them know that we can do this the easy way, or the hard way, what's it gonna be?

[camby]

24. Perhaps with a groundswell of public opinion

such as Conyers may be able to command with his petition, we might be able to get something moving. You're right, those who are in a position to fight should do so.

[calimary]

77. Hey, I rawther LIKE that - "let them know that we can do this the easy way

or the hard way, what's it gonna be?"

I like that A LOT. I think that's what we should do now. EVERY time, repeat, EVERY time you call YOUR reps, OR someone else's, the word "impeachment" or a reference to impeaching bush MUST be included in your spiel. MUST. MUST. MUST. It has to get into the zeitgeist now. The concept of impeachment MUST be THOROUGHLY ON THE TABLE so it gets into the debate and the collective consciousness now. It is NO LONGER TABOO. Let's make sure it stays that way.

And YES, press ahead with this whether your rep is a Dem or a republi-CON. Because the republi-CONS MUST be made aware that this movement is gaining momentum out there - even in their own home turf, and they ignore it AT THEIR PERIL. And keep in mind: Nixon didn't agree to resign until PEOPLE IN HIS OWN PARTY came to him and told him he'd lost all support - and specifically FROM THEIR SIDE OF THE AISLE. So, yes, they can be brought along. SOME of them, I believe, are actually redeemable, and may be increasingly willing to consider what's best for THE COUNTRY, over and above what helps their own party.

[Independent_Liberal]

11. They actually used the "I" word!

I forgot all about that. It was said by the one and only John Dean himself!

[Straight Shooter]

12. Didn't John Dean write "More Dangerous Than Watergate"?

I could google, but I'm *cough* taking a break from work real quick.

[marmar]

20. "Worse than Watergate"

Good read. It just reaffirms that the Marquis de Sade is our president.

[Al-CIAda]

21. "Worse Than Watergate" -n/t

[Doctor_J]

26. yes, that was a year ago. And look how much closer we are to

impeaching him :eyes:

[berni_mccoy]

27. Actually, it was 2 years ago

Just after the invasion when people were wondering where in the hell the WMD were and why they haven't found them yet.

Of course, if the DSM had come out then, Bush would never have been re-selected.

[AuntiBush]

35. Read on: This is getting "very interesting...."

SNIPPED from same article:

Now it is clear that many of his statements appear to be false. In the past, Bush's White House has been very good at sweeping ugly issues like this under the carpet, and out of sight. But it is not clear that they will be able to make the question of what happened to Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction (WMDs) go away -- unless, perhaps, they start another war...

Aa-ha. Hmmmm... :popcorn: Interesting.

But, why does CNN & MSNBC place these type of significantly important eye-opening articles on their websites, and NOT on the MSM Tube where most Americans could catch this?

:banghead:

[realFedUp]

52. "many of his statements appear to be false"

Howabout if they just came out and said the
statements were false.

[AuntiBush]

57. News Reports are Sketchy: Some say he basically did.

When bLAIR & Bush were questioned about this, they couldn't deny it. It would have been a "lie," like 1 that took down Clinton.

To think, Clinton had a consenting affair w/an adult. Told a lie and was ousted. How many men, and women have lied over an affair? How many men and women have had extra-martial affairs? How many Repuks are without sin I ask?

We all know the answers to these questions.

Now, how many have done the atrocities this adm has committed, not just to us and our troops, but to the world and how they view us now.

[Supersedeas]

54. throwing a deeply embedded bone to educated readers who no longer watch

[AuntiBush]

56. Is it any wonder w/all Publishers & Tube News owned by Repuks.

[libodem]

39. Woo Hoo

but who is next in line? Shitweasel Chaney.

[LightningFlash]

41. In the year 2003......He had it right back then!

[OneTwentyoNine]

46. BUMP for Impeachment!! n/t

[Coexist]

51. So does this now mean that the admin will "plant" WMD in Iraq

to compensate for their lies about intel?

[Ishoutandscream2]

53. "Is lying about the war an impeachable offense?" Hell yes!

If a sitting president can be impeached for a blow job, then surely Bush can be indicted for war crimes. Can he????????

[derby378]

58. Pssst! Keith Olbermann! Over here!

Hope you're taking a good look at this...

[flordehinojos]

59. is cnn afraid to post a poll asking the same question that the dean

article asks,

Is lying about the reason for a war an impeachable offense?

My bet is that the YES side of the poll would VERY HIGH. AND what would the Senate and the House do if they were to find that people think bush ought to be impeached for lying the reason for going to war in iraq.

[PATRICK]

63. The phrase

"two possibilities" bluntly gets off the neutral path to spin. The only way out of impeachment would be to fudge the record and admit calamitous ignorance, distance and mistakes even in the relationship with Britain.

That is, IF Bush were ever faced down. The fact is, Bush is evading even facing down the call to account. His party stands as a vast host of hypocrisy and cowardice to take all the heat. So much for Bush spending his "mandate". The Dems have noting to lose by keep pounding the call to account. They can only lose my mirroring the GOP cowardice and hypocrisy by pretending to be panicked by polls or press as if that were an excuse to not do their duty. Unlike Bush we need not pretend an outcome has been reached, only that the truth must be held to account.

[Catherine Vincent]

64. Bush/Cheney should be impeached....Nixon style.

[Writer]

65. That's okay, because tomorrow we'll find some reason to call them...

media whores.

[peacetalksforall]

71. Those are not CNNs words...they are John Deans' words. Big

difference.

[berni_mccoy]

73. That depends

On if CNN paid Dean or not for those words. If they did, then they are Dean's words. And NOTE: It is NOT an editorial piece as suggested by others. It is an ANALYSIS peice, a type of story CNN would PAY for.

[Pinboy]

74. It's a reprint of Dean's regular opinion column for findlaw. n/t

[Name removed]

75. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[Cocoa]

79. Senator Bob Graham said the same at the time

he said it while campaigning, and then on national TV a number of times, answering questions about his statement, which was obviously true, that his Niger uranium lie was impeachable.

[Shrubhater]

88. OMG!!

:kick: