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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 01:27 PM
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Bush Poll Not Accurate, GOP Says
By Carolyn Bolls
CNSNews.com Correspondent
June 13, 2005

(CNSNews.com) -- A recent poll reveals that only 35 percent of adults believe the United States is on the right track under President Bush's leadership. The media, some say, might have contributed to Bush's low ratings, while others disputed the accuracy of the poll.
The phone poll, conducted by Ipsos for the Associated Press from June 6 through June 8, surveyed 1,001 adults, 854 of which were registered voters. Forty percent of those surveyed said they were Republicans, and 50 percent Democrats. The largest age group, 31 percent, was between the ages of 18-34.

"This is a closely divided nation, and the poll does not accurately reflect that," Danny Diaz, the Republican National Committee's Deputy Communications Director, told Cybercast News Service.

When asked if the media is responsible for the public's opinion of President Bush, Diaz said that it is "difficult to glean any conclusion from a poll that doesn't accurately reflect the demographic makeup in this country."

http://www.gopusa.com/news/2005/june/0613_bush_poll.shtml
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 01:28 PM
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1. At least Diaz admits we're the Divided States of America. eom
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 06:22 PM
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50. how would bush know if the polls are accurate or not
he doesn't look at them - at least that what he says - or is he lieing? again.
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 01:28 PM
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2. Yeah, it's just a focus group.
...
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 01:29 PM
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Oh goody, we're going to get "faith-based" polls now from the Bushites.nt
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 01:29 PM
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3. no. no, no, they know the gig is up, serious
why are they this defensive?
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 01:29 PM
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4. You Spin Me Right 'Round, Baby, Right 'Round..."
The centrifugal force from that spin would flatten you right against the wall.
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Ready4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 01:29 PM
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5. He's in denial
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 01:37 PM
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16. That's the purdiest graph I've ever seen...
...even without the colors it would be purdy. :evilgrin:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 01:30 PM
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6. why worry about the polls--bush said he is not worried. te he
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 01:30 PM
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7. Or perhaps the polls are finally telling the truth....
Edited on Mon Jun-13-05 01:32 PM by Dover
and our nation is NOT so "closely divided" as the Bushies would have everyone think!
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 01:30 PM
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8. So where were these naysayers when polls showed Shrub at 90%?. . .
n/t
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 01:31 PM
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9. scientific data always lies
Republicans never do. Oh unless it's about war, money, torture, the future of SS, or global warming.

Just the trivial stuff ya know?

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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 03:08 PM
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41. if data that lead to less than positive news for Repub Campaign Contrib
utors...then, its faulty
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 01:31 PM
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10. Keep talking like that
and those 30 +/- percent will know you're lying every time the lips move too!!
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 01:32 PM
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11. YUM!
Me likely.

I think the new GOP myth is that the population will always be 50/50 republican/democratic.

Maybe DIEBOLD should run these oppinion polls. Then they'd get the numbers they like.
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 01:32 PM
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Polls mean little to the BFEE...
they can rig the machines and give family and friends cushy jobs in the state election offices.
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libra Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 01:32 PM
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12. Yeah, they're probably not accurate . . .
They're probably lower . . .
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Hard_Work Donating Member (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 02:03 PM
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28. graph shows that
this poll is trending right along with the others listed. It is easy to make a single set of data lie, much harder to do with several sets of data from several sources.

Data trending presents a much more accurate picture. This picture shows BushCo in the toilet, and the flush is coming...:hurts:
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finecraft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 01:33 PM
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13. Iraqi Information Minister, please pick up the white courtesy phone
gopusa would like to speak to you about a position they have open for a spokesperson! :rofl:
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DemNoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 01:33 PM
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14. CNS News?
Honestly, where the hell do people find this stuff? Why post a propaganda piece in LBN?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 01:38 PM
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18. Conservative News Service
and it tells you just how on the defensive the GOP is... know thy enemy
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 01:34 PM
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15. This poll is wrong ,but the election was correct. Right. Check, please.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 01:40 PM
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19. Hey==GOP--go check the election Exit poll--that was accurate wasn't it?
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 01:45 PM
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21. Somehow, all the polls since 2000 fail to reflect GOP election results
Some blame the pollsters, some blame the media, some blame the voting machines.

I blame the fascist religious zombies who've set up televised brainwashing mega-mausoleums all over the country to spread their horrifying zombie disease.
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DemBeans Donating Member (669 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 01:38 PM
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17. unintentionally hilarious...
The media, some say, might have contributed to Bush's low ratings...

Straight from the Judy Woodruff school of reporting.

The media has done nothing other than prop up this evil empire, and using the tired 'liberal media' mantra is simply laughable.
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 01:45 PM
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22. I thought that this was hilarious and interesting at the same time
They are starting a spin on their own spin.

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 01:46 PM
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23. now the Repugs are denying the polls--that is all they do--deny deny
deny.
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 01:44 PM
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20. Logic
Polls also say the majority of public is fed up with the Iraq war. Majority of the public doesn't want Social Security Private Accounts. Extrapolate just from those two concepts alone and it is only logical that the majority thinks we are headed in the wrong direction.
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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 01:48 PM
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24. These punks do not like any facts...
no matter how small or large.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 01:55 PM
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26. they are getting desperate I think--they had Hunter holding a chicken
dinner today (to show gitmo ppl are being treated just fine)--now they are denying scientific polls with illogical reasoning. This weekend the WH felt compelled to say they DID have plans for postwar (DSM-2)--and even bow-tie man this morning said that--everyone knows we had no post war plans. they, then send out Cheney boy to put the lid on things--cheney has spoken!!

Not a good few weeks for them.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 01:53 PM
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25. what complete and utter bullshit
scapegoat anyone
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 01:57 PM
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27. Adjusted in *'s favor, approval SOARS to a whopping 38.2%!
1001 people surveyed
350 approved (35%)
Therefore, 651/1001 DISAPPROVED

854 registered voters
(40% R, 50% Dem)
Dems have a 10% advantage: 85 people.

Assuming ALL Dems disapproved,
we remove all 85 from that category.

Disapproval ratio is now 566/916...61.8%

APPROVAL CLIMBS ALL THE WAY TO 38.2%...It's a frickin MANDATE, I tells ya!
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 02:05 PM
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29. LMAO!!!! This is TOOOO funny!!! Of course it's a closely divided nation
the freaking Republicans tell us so. Never mind the numbers, the polls or the opinions of people! If the opinions don't match what the Republicans tell us, then we know the opinions are wrong!

I can't stop laughing!!!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

david
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 02:10 PM
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30. I think the numbers are probably wrong too.
It's probably actually 3 - 5% of the most delusional freepers who think the county's headed in the right direction. 35% had to have been a typo.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 02:11 PM
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31. 5 years of Bush's "hard work" is finally uniting the nation.
Against him and his administration.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 02:17 PM
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32. Uh, hey! Ain't GOPUSA used to hire Gannon? Wire we quotin them?
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 02:51 PM
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39. Yep, this is a sister website to Newsmax and is a bible to freepers
Not LBN at all. Just rabid right rantings.
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 02:32 PM
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33. The DNC responce in the article.
Josh Earnest, spokesperson for the DNC, told Cybercast News Service that "the polls speak for themselves, and the American public is being heard."

Earnest said that the polls were a fair reflection of the public's opinion of President Bush.

"The problem with Republicans," Earnest said, "is that they are more concerned about what the Democrats are saying rather than what they are doing themselves."
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 02:37 PM
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34. Danny Diaz, nominated for Stupid conservatives
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MODemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 02:38 PM
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35. It may not be accurate
He's probably even deeper in the tank than it shows.
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confludemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 04:10 PM
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44. GOP hacks labored mightily for most of a news cycle and a 1/2 and...
came up with this response? They are hurtin'.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 02:47 PM
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36. So a "deeply divided nation"= "We get at LEAST 50%" ?????
Uh-huh whatever.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 02:47 PM
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37. Hold it on second thought - I thought they didn't pay attention to polls??
F**king full of s**t bastards.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 03:40 PM
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42. her (ir)reasoning is that since we are a deeply divided nation (50-50
give or take a few%)--THEN the polls are wrong00(the polls should reflect this 50-50 divide). It is her reasoning-- (not saying it is right/accurate, but that is how she is thinking about these numbers).
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leQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 02:50 PM
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38. see how red the sky is? (eom)
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ls317 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 02:52 PM
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40. Bottom line
"Too stupid to chew a pretzel " still will go down as one of the worse presidents in this country history
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 03:47 PM
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43. So....what we think, we are really not thinking. What we feel, we are...
...really not feeling. What we observe, we are really not observing. What we believe, we really don't believe. Wow, Bush's America is starting to make sense now....:crazy:
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 04:15 PM
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45. He is right, it is wrong. Bush** is worse off than they say
Edited on Mon Jun-13-05 04:19 PM by leftchick
he is in the dumper and we have no reliable pollsters to reflect that.
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 05:15 PM
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46. Why was this moved? From breaking News?
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 05:22 PM
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47. CNS News? BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!
They're worse than SpewsMax!!
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 06:08 PM
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48. That is not the point of course they spew
It's the spin that is so funny and

I STILL WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHY THIS WAS MOVED?
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wallwriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 06:13 PM
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49. Maybe they should hire Diebold to do polling...
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