Conyers on Democracy Now...now. 11:17 Central.

[trof]

Chan. 9415 on Dish.

[deutsey]

1. Also KPFA

www.kpfa.org

[Gregorian]

12. Hahaha! Here's a couple more.

Bin Laden skiing. And the Wiz repubs. (I didn't pay enough attention to details on who should be whom. But the basic idea is there.)

[joanski0]

2. Got it! Thanks.

What we are trying to do is document evidence that it was clear that Pres Bush wanted to go into Iraq months before he asked Congress. On break now. Apparently Ray McGovern is also there.

[joanski0]

4. More.

Amy Goodman. Can you talk about what is most explosive about the DSM? McGovern: We have been saying for three years that the facts were being fixed ... What we have now is documented proof. Wash. Post is saying that this is vague but rather intriging. Why, it isn't vague at all. ... Executive ursurped the progatives of the Congress. ...

Amy reading the story about AP failure to provide story on DSM.

Conyers: The problem with the media in the US is that it that has been intimdated, seduced, and other in words brought under the thrall of this Admin like no other time in my 40-year experience in DC. ... The Admin has been stonewalling. ... Now we have over 500,000 American citizens. They more they try to keep this down, the more the people become enraged.

Goodman: Talking about Wisconsin dem party res about impeachment.

Conyers: At this point, I am still collecting evidence. To make this clear that this isn't how you interpret a memo ... I am staying away from that subject until I have completed my investigation. Deceiving the Congress, deceiving the Am people, planning a war, cooking the books to create weapons of mass destruction, then trying to beef up the intelligence to provoke Iraq, then going to the UN and hope the UN demands to do in ... now we have the question of does Article ... giving Cong. the power to declare war, or have we slipped into the era of unending war ... operate as carelessly and wrecklessly as this Pres has.

[trof]

3. “Fuck Saddam,” Bush said. “We’re taking him out.” March 2002

As he marched the nation to war, Bush presented himself as a Christian man of peace who saw war only as a last resort. But in a remarkable though little noted disclosure, Time magazine reported that in March 2002 – a full year before the invasion – Bush outlined his real thinking to three U.S. senators, “Fuck Saddam,” Bush said. “We’re taking him out.”

Time actually didn’t report the quote exactly that way. Apparently not to offend readers who admire Bush’s moral clarity, Time printed the quote as “F--- Saddam. We’re taking him out.”

Bush offered his pithy judgment after sticking his head in the door of a White House meeting between National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice and three senators who had been discussing strategies for dealing with Iraq through the United Nations. The senators laughed uncomfortably at Bush’s remark, Time reported.
http://www.impeach-bush-now.org/Articles/Bush/consortiuml.htm

[joanski0]

5. If McGovern testifies tomorrow the way he

is talking now, it is going to be hot, hot, hot.

If the Wash Post knew in July of 2003 (because they said DSM was nothing new), they surely should have published that. It would be laughable if it wasn't so serious. There must be some sort of rule against publishing anything against this Admin.

[joanski0]

6. What kind of response have you

gotten from Republicans? Conyers: A few Repubs have quietly given me the thumbs up. They don't want the Constitution ripped into shreds. ... There have been little tiny indications from 1 or 2 or 3 or 4 members who are prepared to state that what we are doing does not relate to partisanship. ... The silence is becoming so loud that the people are rising up. To the media, please let's start doing the job.

[Coexist]

8. thanks for the updates - at work, can't listen

[CAcyclist]

9. Our Mantra to Republicans Should Be:

You have a higher duty to your country than to your party.

[berni_mccoy]

10. Whoo hooo!

Thanks for transcribing!!!

[faithnotgreed]

11. is this ray mcgovern?

he is a good man and has been consistently speaking up against what is going on. sadly though he doesnt get much media

[earthboundmisfit]

19. Stuck his head in the door - on his way out to ride his bikey

n/t

[Jack Rabbit]

7. Link

From Democracy Now!
Broadcast Wednesday June 13

The Downing Street Memo Comes To Washington
Conyers Blasts "Deafening Sound of Silence"
By Amy Goodman

Tomorrow in Washington, Congressmember John Conyers of Michigan, the ranking Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee, will convene a public hearing on the so-called Downing Street Memo and other newly released documents that Conyers says show the administration's "efforts to cook the books on pre-war intelligence." Conyers also says that he plans to raise new documents that back up the accuracy of the Downing Streets memo, which is actually the classified minutes of a July 2002 meeting of Tony Blair and his senior advisers.

The minutes, which were published May 1 by the Sunday Times of London, paint a picture of an administration that had already committed to attacking Iraq, was manipulating intelligence and had already begun intense bombing of Iraq to prepare for the ground invasion. This was almost a year before the actual invasion officially began. The minutes are from a July 23, 2002 briefing of Prime Minister Tony Blair and his top national security advisers by British intelligence chief Richard Dearlove. The minutes contain an account of Dearlove's report that President George W. Bush had decided to bring about "regime change" in Iraq by military action; that the attack would be "justified by the conjunction of terrorism and WMD" (weapons of mass destruction); and that "the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy."

Meanwhile, this past weekend, The Sunday Times of London had another expose, showing that British cabinet members were warned that the UK was committed to taking part in a US-led invasion of Iraq and they had no choice but to find a way of making it legal. The memo was written in advance of the Downing Street meeting that produced the Downing Street Minutes.

Despite the explosive information in these documents, they have received very little attention in the corporate media in this country and Bush administration officials have only been asked about it a handful of times. On June 7, after more than a month of media silence, a reporter for the Reuters news agency finally questioned President Bush and Tony Blair on the Downing Street Memo.

Read more.

[tinfoilinfor2005]

13. yeah, it's so important now that tomorrow it will be on CSpan 3.

Of course most of the country has never heard of CSpan 3, but what the heck? As long CSpan can placate some of us annoying bothersome americans.

[bvar22]

14. View LIVE Over-the-Net here:

http://www.cspan.org/

[flpoljunkie]

15. Great news. C-Span is required to show House and Senate while in session.

[Toots]

20. very little attention in the corporate media in this country

corporate media that is our buzz word to replace "Liberal Media". From now on I will only refer to the media as the corporate media. Drill it home..

[AuntiBush]

16. Watching now! It's it sad when a Congressman w/all the years

Conyers has, can not get on the other stations here in America.

It's time we realize that all of the MSM are corporate-owned Bush Fundies.

[laugle]

17. Lou Dobbs was talking about the DSM too,

interesting it was at the same time as conyers was on Democracy Now. Great job DUers!!!!It's a start, conyers said he just got word that they can hold the hearings tomorrow at the capitol instead of the DNC bldg. I guess they finally gave up those bastards.

[laugle]

18. What time do the hearings start tomorrow?

[Vadem]

21. 2:30 pm on C-Span 3...........n/t

[Rainscents]

22. Repeat on (June 17th) C-Span 2 at 8:00pm EST and 5:00pm PST!!!

Write it down!!! Friday, June, 17th... Repaeat on C-Span 2!