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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:14 AM
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If Edwards will take second what does that mean for Dean and Clark?
I think if Dean comes in Third or Fourth he is toast but Clark remains even more viable on February third if Dean gets nailed in New Hampshire even if Clark comes in fourth. Dean can't survive coming in third twice. This is Clark's first primary state and it's in New England. I think the Clark's best hope is if Dean gets knocked out in New Hampshire then he is a diminished threat in Arizona, New Mexico, Oklahoma and North Dakota. All states Clark is leading in right now.
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LBJBestEver Donating Member (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:16 AM
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1. It positions Edwards awesomely for SC
And it puts JFK and JRE as the clear frontrunners. JRE can set himself up well for Feb 3 in places like SC, OK etc.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:19 AM
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2. South Carolina will be Edwards first Clark second I agree
Clark has to win the South West states
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uconnyc Donating Member (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:20 AM
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3. Clark is toast if JRE finishes ahead of him
What does he have to stand on? Kerry has the military background and JRE is a southerner.

What would Clark's message to SC and MO voters be? Vote for me because I'm the most electable, even though I couldn't mount a campaign in Iowa and JRE a little known southerner beat me in NH?
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Loren645 Donating Member (516 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:23 AM
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5. Yeah! 'Cause he'd lose a whoppin' 1% of delegates in NH!
That'd leave, after Iowa, only 98% up for grabs.
Doooooooooooooomed...
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LBJBestEver Donating Member (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:24 AM
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7. Early primaries are huge for momentum.
Sure it's a small number of delegates, but they are huge for fundraising and momentum. Look what just winning Iowa has done for Kerry.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:27 AM
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8. I don't think so and hear is why
Clark is leading in the South West states and with Dean out of the Way Clark would most certanly win those three states and maybe North Dakota. Edwards is polling awesome in Missouri and would probably win. Edwards would win South Carolina as well. Delaware would go to Edwards or Kerry. That leaves Kerry with almost nothing. Well, Who looks like the winner on Feb 3rd. Clark and Edwards a close second! Kerry would loose his momentum. Then it becomes a Clark Edwards race.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:34 AM
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10. Feb 3 will be a circus because
Everyone will be protecting the states they are strongest in. Clark will be all over the South West and Edwards will be going back and fourth between Missouri and South Carolina. Kerry will have to go all over the place and that will hurt him. Also Edwards does not have much money to advertise much in the South West States.
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mikehiggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:22 AM
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4. Lets just wait until the votes are counted, okay?
Remember how Dean and Gephardt were fighting to the death in Iowa just a couple of days ago?

There are two days left before the voting booths open and one of them includes an appearance at the Lifetime debate.

Things could look entirely different on Tuesday morning.
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DJcairo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:23 AM
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6. I'd hesitate to say now
There hasn't been any real polling done of those states in weeks. ARG is supposed to have some 2/3 numbers up tomorrow so we'll see. My bet is you see Kerry on top in AZ, ND and MO at least.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:31 AM
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9. We have had no advertising accept for Clark and Dean
Hear in the South West. Kerry was polling at around 2% in the south west states.
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AVID Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:41 AM
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11. one of them got first
Clark 1
Edwards2
Kerry3
Dean4
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 10:34 AM
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12. Hi bigskydem!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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