DJcairo
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Sun Jan-25-04 01:22 AM
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Dean lost Iowa, remember? It's not just the Yeaaaaaaaah that did it. |
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The exit poll numbers out of Iowa were particularly telling. Young voters went for Kerry Anti-war voters went for Kerry First time caucus goers went for Kerry Elderly overwhelmingly went for Kerry College towns went for Kerry
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With the Dean campaign so focused on campaign process and how they were going to win. Their loss in Iowa undercut everything they had told their supporters for months.
The scream was the least of it.
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Sun Jan-25-04 01:25 AM
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1. That Dean and his supporters! I say we flog them all at dawn! |
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Edited on Sun Jan-25-04 01:30 AM by nu_duer
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Sun Jan-25-04 01:29 AM
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'Their loss in Iowa undercut everything they had told their supporters for months.'
Dean told me he was going to win every state!! THE LIAR!! :silly:
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Sun Jan-25-04 02:05 AM
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6. Remember that time President Dean "lost it" in Iowa. |
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And everyone piled on and declared his candidacy over. It's hard to believe that people could be so unrelentingly cruel to such a great man, and over what- a genuine display of humanity. Seems rather silly thinking back on it.
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Sun Jan-25-04 02:08 AM
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and I am a Kerry supporter.
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Sun Jan-25-04 02:22 AM
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10. I havent been rubbing it in but it would make a nice story |
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People are assholes, its such a horrible thing. I used to think a lot of the attacks made on Dean were sick and stupid like he's a draft dodger, civil unions will hurt him, now I see simliar shit on Kerry, I didnt like it then I dont like it now, I am far from being a fan of Dean but he has my support if hes the nominee, its just I have a different candiate than you. I wish you good luck in NH, and hope someday that unity can happen.
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Sun Jan-25-04 02:28 AM
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you've been a good guy since the beginning. We've all been chewed up by this meat grinder of a campaign and if there is any hope that I would enthusiastically back another candidate, it will be because of positive, supportive people like yourself. Good luck to you as well.
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Be cautious. Things have a way of changing rapidly...
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Sun Jan-25-04 02:19 AM
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9. A Ballistic Display... |
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didn't cause Iowans to reject Dean and his campaign. The rejection by Iowans caused the petulance (which is still going on)
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Sun Jan-25-04 03:29 AM
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15. Well said. Petulance is never attractive. |
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Iowans made a decision, after months of seeing all the candidates (except the two not on the ballot, and they got no delegates.) Dean came in third and made a speech that many of his supporters liked but was a real shock to many people.
It shocked me when I saw it -- and I saw it live and formed my opinion of it as I watched, without anyone else telling me what to think of it. I presume many other people did the same. I noticed that for the first hour or two, the news anchors and commentators were fairly subdued in their comments about the speech, apparently shocked themselves and unsure what to say.
But Dean was losing support in NH before Iowa, and would have lost more NH support because he came in third in Iowa, even if the speech hadn't alarmed a lot of people.
As I said before Iowa, Dean's raised a pile of money and fired up a lot of supporters, which is a credit to him and his campaign, but nothing counts except actual votes. Rumors of his unstoppability were premature.
And if money is what wins an election, Bush wins.
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Sun Jan-25-04 02:46 AM
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13. Unless another veteran comes out of the woodwork to thank Kerry... |
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... for saving his life in Vietnam...this primary (NH) will be a lot closer than Iowa.
A tip o' the hat to Kerry...but that kind of drama gained him a 15% surge in Iowa... and, sorry, probably won't happen again.
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Sun Jan-25-04 02:47 AM
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14. Of course its gonna be close |
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