Rough transcript of DSM Hearing (Thursday). Holy Carrots.

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http://www.bradblog.com/archives/00001471.htm

Testimonies and panel discussion via The Brad Blog (please read disclaimer at top of page)




(from the Q&A Session)
BONIFAZ: "This idea of preemption has no basis in International Law...This was a problem that the British Lawyers had...You have to have an iminent threat and prove that somebody is about to attack you... is illegal and that's something the American people need to understand."



BONIFAZ: "Yes, we have at AfterDowningSTreet.org...All we're asking at this point is for answers to these questions. To know the truth whether or not the Prez. Engaged in a deliberate campaign to deceive...If that's all it was after an investigation, a failure of intelligence, then so be it...But if the memo from Richard Dearlove was accurate, then we all deserve to know the truth about whether the Prez deliberately lied...we owe it to the people of the united States to find out."



WILSON: Sanctity of intel process needs to be maintained...and that has been sacrificed...There are any number of people who are afraid to come out of the woodwork...many are afraid to because of what happened to my wife...The message was "If you do what Wilson did, we'll do to you what we did to Wilson's wife."...Let me say once again that being married to my wife is not having a skeleton in my closet!


BONIFAZ: The Downing Street documents are the equivalent to a taping system in the White House in the Nixon Administration...Imagine Congress saying we don't want those tapes! OF COURSE the congress wanted those tapes...and these DS Minutes should be investigated by congress in the same way!

CONYERS: There are going to be a number of "next hearings"...We could use a little subpeona power around here...Do any of you have any knowledge of any other primary source documents that supports the other side of this argument? That supports the president's letter to Congress? ...Did Congress abrogate it's responsibilities to be the final constitutional voice into whether this country goes to war

CONYERS: We have a lot of work today as a result of this first panel...

(Parents who had children killed stand up to give testimony unscheduled! American parents. And British parents alike).

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1. kick

[GreenPartyVoter]

2. THANK YOU! As a hearing impaired person, I do better with print than

audio media.

I am so glad to have read that. It gives me some hope that something may be done!

*hugs*

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5. oh do I hear you

"It gives me some hope that something may be done!"

that feeling hasn't been around for quite awhile has it? and it DOES feel amazing, i agree.

:hug:

[kerrygoddess]

3. Some text of Hearing on LUTD

http://www.lightupthedarkness.org/blog/default.asp?view=plink&id=1094

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4. thank you!

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[kerrygoddess]

6. Updated...

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[kittenpants]

7. thanks for the great quotes & nominated

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8. AUDIO STREAM OF DSM HEARING

http://www.bradblog.com/archives/00001471.htm

links to streaming RealAudio and mirrored Real Audio under headline.

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9. MSNBC Poll: Did Shrub Mislead Us Into War?

MSGOP poll:

Did Shrubby Mislead Us Into War?

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10. thanks for the addition!

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[jarnocan]

17. Dang! kick

Yes
94%
No
6% :dem:

[proud2BlibKansan]

18. Holy cow

94% say yes, Bush misled us into war.

[kerrygoddess]

11. Leading up to war - what was done

Marcy Captur (OH): preplanning shows airfields were built pre-invasion... there are no records available to Congress...asks people to go to AfterDowningStreet.org and submit information if they have it.

Ray McGovern... "very good book available that has been suppressed about what Ms Captur has said here - Spiders Web. "

Link to book on Blog http://www.lightupthedarkness.org/blog/default.asp?view=plink&id=1094

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12. C-Span2 is playing DSM hearing now

[Roland99]

14. And C-SPAN 1 will replay it tomorrow evening!

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13. one last kick

[Gregorian]

15. Bonifaz has a very good point when he says that those who voted

for the war resolution in 2002 were duped. And we owe it to them to investigate to discover the truth.
I say that those same people should also demand an investigation. If they do not, it says much about what they are doing in Congress.

[ailsagirl]

16. And the timing was certainly interesting, wasn't it??

A number of representatives said that ELEVEN Congressional votes were scheduled today-- many/some overlapping this meeting.

The neocons don't miss a trick, do they??
:puke:

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19. DSM Hearing top news on AOL

http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/news/article.adp?id=20050616134009990006

[DearAbby]

20. AOL Results 9:30 MDT

Do you think the U.S. should have gone to war in Iraq?

No 86%
Yes 14%


What do you think about the use of intelligence in the run-up to the war?


The White House stretched the truth 59%

A combination of flawed and misused data
led to the war 29%

The White House got flawed intelligence 9%

The intelligence was fine, and it was used properly 3%


Total Votes: 17,126

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21. kcik

kiick

[rman]

22. preemption

In fact preemption does have a basis in international law, it's just that Bush's war does not meet the conditions for it to actually be preemptive. That's probably why at some point they called it "preventative", which is a fantasy term that does have no basis in international law.
At any rate Bush's war is illegal.

[NYdemocrat089]

23. Thank you for this!! Does anyone know if they are planning to repeat the

hearings on TV? I missed it (I don't have C-SPAN 3).

[SCDem]

24. 8pm tonight on CSPAN2

it played several times yesterday and early this morning on CSPAN as well.

[NYdemocrat089]

25. Thank you SCDem!

n/t

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26. kick

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