Newest Member Of The Fox Family, Wesley Clark, Makes Me Gag!

[norml]

Playing pat a cake with the right wing media whores, being on their payroll, not calling them on their lies? Disgusting! I'm glad that I've never supported him as a candidate for President. I'd be embarrassed now, if I had.

http://www.newshounds.us/2005/06/15/wesley_clark_joins_fox_news_channel.php

[wtmusic]

1. haha

a post:

"You are fucking kidding me. Whatever respect I EVER had for this man, has been thrown up with my dinner. Expletive. Expletive Expletive.
How much blood money did they pay this Expletive Expletive.
He never really jumped ship. Now I'm thinkiing that he was a plant from the right to try and cover their bases. I am going to clean the Expletive vomit off my keyboard."

[FrenchieCat]

4. Actually, I am starting to think that General Clark ,

the most decorated officer since Eisenhower, doesn't really "need" your type of respect....

Cheap, low down, and petty doesn't go a long way.

And furthermore, your posts are consistently filled with hate and no substance.

Why bother blogging about a subject for which you have absolutely nothing of constructive value to say?

[Crunchy Frog]

7. Agreed.

I would think there was something terribly wrong if this poster did support Wes.

Threads like this only strengthen my conviction that I've gone with the right guy.

[norml]

13. My posts are consistently filled with hate and no substance?

Here's something of constructive value. If the Clark supporters keep posting such knee jerk reactionary attacks on anyone who questions their "He'll take the Red States" hero, he'll be even less popular than he is now.

[FrenchieCat]

19. Glad you got it.

Articulating a clear and understandable opinion is an "art".....

The problem is that your talents are lacking any clarity and purpose beyond bashing. That's an easy thing to do. In fact, I'm real good at that....if required.

Just sayin'....you've yet to articulate anything beyond calling names.

and like Clark told Hannity (who also does nothing more than call names).....

"We oughta get past this name calling, past the politics and the partisan politics on this because we have a national security issue here, and the country needs to focus on it, our leadership needs to focus on it and we can't if we're just calling names back and forth at each other".
Wes Clark on Hannity and Homie -- 6/16/05

[norml]

29. Like I said, he could only respond with broad pleasantries

Maybe if he's really well behaved they'll let him sit in for Colmes.

[FrenchieCat]

31. Like I said....

You don't know Jack!

And you certainly don't know Clark!

As misinformed as you are.....are you sure you're not a regular Faux watcher?

[LightningFlash]

40. Wes Clarke adds no credability to Faux News.

I'm sorry but its true, and it rings truer to this day.

Faux News loses more and any at all credability also, being close to the neocons. He's going down, and anyone who supports "red dogs" who don't really care about the people. They're all chicken-war hawks.

[FrenchieCat]

41. WTF? What are you talking about?

"He's going down". Who?

"Red Dogs" who don't really care about people? Why? What does that really mean?

Who are the Chickenhawks? Are you talking about "General" Clark or who?

I know it's late....but give me something coherent that I can respond to, would you?

Thanks.

[snowbear]

32. It's almost 3 a.m. where you are --- GO TO BED...

Please?????????????

I pleading here norml, GO TO BED!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:

[wtmusic]

20. xactly

He could bend down and kiss Bush's hairy ass, and there are those around here who would find a way to justify it.

[FrenchieCat]

21. How do you know that

Bush has a Hairy ass?

Been there, done that?

[snowbear]

22. LOL.... Good one!!

;)

[ElectroPrincess]

44. Not true and you know it ... why are you spreading discontent?

Clark has done NOTHING to betray his supporters. If he has the courage to speak truth to power in that "shark tank of Neo-Cons" FOX cable news, then I say, may God Bless him.

BTW there are FEW people who can appear GOOD over all the interrupting bullies at FOX but both Clark and Katrina V. (Editor of the Nation) are two people who I have NOT EVER doubted their loyalty to the American People over the Power Brokers.

[high density]

23. "Questioning" is a mild way to put it

A lot of people on this forum are saying Clark has become a right-winger overnight (or are again trumpeting the crazy Wayne Madsen bullshit that he was always a closet neocon) because of his new commentator job. That's a rather absurd statement to make and it should be easy to understand why so many Clark supporters are getting annoyed at such comments.

[wtmusic]

17. OK, here's something constructive

Wes should stop taking money from a RW propaganda machine.

That for starters...

Then he might say something in support of the investigation into the "Downing Street Memo". What is Wes' position on this? Hmmm...not a word on his website. Little too direct, huh Wes? We wouldn't want to cause a CONFRONTATION, now would we? :eyes:

Wes is a milquetoast, follow the crowd, uninspiring, war profiteer. So sorry you don't like my posts. If the truth hurts, just put me on ignore.

[FrenchieCat]

24. Now you're talking.....

so for starters.....Mr. Lover of hairy asses, please provide us with

What has Clark said about the Downing Street memo? (I know the answer, but I will wait for you to fall on one of those hairy asses you like so well).

Please provide your backup evidence to allow us to understand how Wes is all of those names that you are calling him.

Thank you.

[wtmusic]

28. You are watching history in the making

this is the last response I will dignify your infantile crap with. I'm honestly sorry to burst your bubble. It's clear you are taking the move of your erstwhile hero to FOX shill very, very hard.

Best wishes. You are now officially Ignored. :hi:

[FrenchieCat]

30. GOod....

I wouldn't have it anyother way.

I will not ignore you though...my friend.

In fact, it will be really funny when you say something else totally stupid and ignorant....and I respond....cause you won't know what I said. Not that it would make any difference anyways.

Bu-buy now! :hi:

[Crunchy Frog]

33. Thank God for that.

Maybe I can hope that you will stop plaguing Clark threads with your hatefulness.

I think maybe that hairy ass thing is causing you to have some issues. You may want to get it looked into.:)

[high density]

27. The only thing that hurts is learning how uninformed some are on this

forum. I haven't heard the "follow the crowd" thing about Clark yet, that must be a new one that you just came up with tonight. So keep watching the Conyers things on C-SPAN that have half a dozen viewers if you want. Millions of viewers in middle America are going to continue to watch Fox News and we aren't going to change that anytime soon. I'm just glad to hear that Wes Clark is going to be on there from time to time to inject some facts and truth into the conversation.

[norml]

34. I was waiting for him to inject some facts and truth into the conversation

I was waiting for him to say something that would make me want to cheer him on. Let me know when he does. I suppose that I should be grateful that at least he didn't go along with denouncing Durbin, even though he didn't do anything to defend him.

[FrenchieCat]

35. His goal was not to defend or denounce.....

although that's what Hannity wanted and what he set Clark up for.

Clark said he would not condem Durbin for his comments, and that's good enough for me.

You see, you fail to understand that what Clark didn't do was to take the bait. Guess you wouldn't have been that smart.
Instead Clark turned the issue and the discussion to point out the FAILURES OF THIS BUSH ADMINISTRATION'S POLICIES in the matter of Gizmo.

That's what we want. We want Bush and his minions out.

This war and fight for our democracy is not about Durbin, or Clark or Hannity or you....it's about getting the truth ABOUT BUSH out to the Fox viewers.

It will take a little time...cause they've been indoctrinated for quite some time now.

See, your problem is you want it all now.
But so, I've got news for you....it won't work that way.

It's not about you getting your instant gratification from someone that you don't support and most likely don't even understand.

It's gonna be steady and calm.....not bombastic and caustic.

That's the strategy.

Got that?

[acmavm]

2. Did you think that there's any way that we can will the battle for the

next election without taking the fight TO THE ENEMY?????? Do you think we can win the next election if we don't get up front a personal WHERE THOSE WHO DON'T UNDERSTAND GET THEIR INFORMATION?????

He's being incredibly smart here. Wading right into the fray. And he's like Dean, he won't chickenshit out when faced with a bunch of right wing whackos. He's a general, and used to fighting where the enemy is.

Take on the Humes and Snows and Stephanopolous freaks on their home ground.

[norml]

5. Yeah, he really took it to them when he let Hannity get away with saying

that we're not murdering anyone in our prison camps, when there HAVE been documented cases of murder. General "taking the fight TO THE ENEMY" could only respond with broad pleasantries. He takes the fight TO THE ENEMY, like Colmes takes the fight TO THE ENEMY. Those who really take it to Fox News, don't get invited on Fox News anymore, let alone get hired by them.

[FrenchieCat]

3. I think that some folks prejudice is showing clear through! Because

From what I saw on Faux today (I only watched the Clark Segment), so far....seems like Wes Clark is getting out a good 2006 message--"It's the policy, stupid" to Fox viewers.

I am very happy that Wes Clark cares more about this country than he does about how the base will judge him for going into the Lion's Den! He's thinking with his head, and not with his heart or his interest on this one.

To his detractors...Goodie! You now have a real excuse. Why? Cause he gave you one. Why? Cause he understands that personal pandering to potential primary voters is not how this country will be saved. For those who believe that Clark should just sit on the sidelines and hold on until the primaries, you are not thinking about the good of this country. We do not have the luxury, nor the time NOT to speak to the folks that can help us take the house back. How are we going to get a majority in congress in 2006 if we can't get folks to switch whomever they voted for in their district the last time?

Clark knows that the Left hates Faux. He knows that this will not win him any popularity contest with those who vote in Democratic primaries. But he also knows that based on his skills, this is something that he can do to affect some change. It may not be a lot, to some....But it's really the only way that we are going to save this country....bit by bit.

Clark is not the DNC Chair. Clark is not a Senator. Clark is not a millionaire heading a poverty center. Clark is a retired NATO Commander and General who has spoken, written and done commentating on the various aspects of this War, National Security and Foreign relations....and the ramifications of the terrible policies on all of those issues. Clark is doing what Clark can do help and bring some sanity back to this country.

It's very sad and disheartening to see critics that would be so petty as to only become indignant in principle but forget what our real goal ought to be. Clark is going to inform Fox viewers as to what a real Kick-ass Democrat looks, sounds and thinks like.

Like Howard Dean said....we have to talk to those folks in their pick up trucks.
I think those folks watch Fox, don't you?

The real issue of discussion should be how to save this country ...and not the issue of picking on the few who are doing what they can to do just that.

OP is so busted!

[norml]

6. He didn't look like "a real Kick-ass Democrat" to me.

He looked like a Toady.

[NeoTraitors]

9. Do you have a link to these 'documented murders'

at Gitmo? Thanks in advance.

[norml]

16. Not at Gitmo, at the other camps.

A simple search will give you all the information you need.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=murder+us+detention+&btnG=Google+Search

[FrenchieCat]

12. It's hard to see with your eyes snapped shut, and

your mouth wide open.

I wouldn't have "seen" anything either....if I was so busy hatin'.

You see, you're the type that will not help in making those who voted for Republicans in their district in 2002 and 2004 change their minds.

You're so busy with a full frontal assault on a Democrat, I would doubt that you have any time left for the real work.

[lwin]

8. I agree and support Gen. Clark in getting the message out...

But I strongly object to the nasty little comment directed at John Edwards.

Clark is not a millionaire heading a poverty center.

We're on the same team. Edwards and Clark are natural allies. Stop the divisive posts.

[FrenchieCat]

10. You're right.....

that was not very nice on my part. I do apologize for that!

[norml]

45. What message was that, something about how we need to have input

on this policy issue? Could he have been any more vague?

[high density]

11. Thanks for creating yet another unhelpful thread on this subject

This circle jerk of Clark bashing today is getting kind of old.

Clark has been hired to bring thoughtful analysis on foreign and military policy to the brainwashed Fox News viewers and all he gets is shit on here for it. I don't get it. I guess we might as well just let the GOP say whatever the heck they want and not question them on it... Hell, that basic tactic has worked out just fantastic for us in the last decade or so, hasn't it?

[FrenchieCat]

14. They know not what they do.....

Hatred for one man is getting in their way.

Election? What election?

Their idea of fun? Let's just bash Wes Clark for having the tamarity to speak to viewers that need speaking to.

[AnnitaR]

15. Wow thanks for this thoughtful and informative thread!

Glad you chose to start a brand new bash Clark threads! I guess there weren't enough for you to pop in on!

:eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes:

[snowbear]

18. This is truly the most IDIOTIC post I've seen in days.

It - Truthfully - Sucks.

And yes, we can tell you didn't support General Clark.

Good Gawd. If you're going to "GAG", why not keep it to yourself?

======>>>> Why start your own little pitty post?

:puke:

General Clark, I could care less what network hired you. I know what you've done for our country, I know where your heart is at, and I know which political party you're proudly apart of!

[QC]

25. norml, I'm glad you shared your opinion with us,

because if someone so unfailingly petty and relentlessly divisive as you approved of Clark, then I would have to re-evaluate my support of him.

It's nice to know that professional haters don't like him--he must be doing something right.

[norml]

42. How odd that so many Clark supporters have always hated my posts

but never said anything about that until this thread.

[FrenchieCat]

26. Norml should be embarassed .....

and not about anything related to Clark or his supporters.

Actually, I'm embarassed for Norml.
Note -see there, I have a heart....just wish you had a brain!

[norml]

36. Actually after reading some of the responses here I'm rather proud

of not being in the Clark camp. Since he's now a member of The Fox Family, those in his camp must be Fox Family too. That's not a family I want to be part of.

[QC]

37. In other words, "I know you are, but what am I?"

You should stop when you--well, not ahead, really, but so far behind.

[FrenchieCat]

38. What-e-ever....

just hope you are feeling full and satisfy with yourself....cause you and your friend looked pretty lonely and desperate.

From where I sit, proud would not be a word that I would use in describing either your method of communication, your strategizing of politics, or your ability to provide evidence when making accusations.

Either you're young or else awfully confused.

Just remember this...and I'll say it simply so that even you can understand....

Clark is no Fool and Clark is no Tool.

Just watch and listen(this time with your eyes open and your mouth shut)....

See Ya! :hi:

[digno dave]

39. Looks like Clark has something up his sleeve

Maybe Clark is on a quest to be the crossove candidate we seem to be having a hard time finding. What better way to promote yourself.

[JNelson6563]

43. I wish he'd have passed on the opportunity

instead of participating on their channel as if they are anything but a propaganda machine for the Thugs.

Julie

[Moderator]

46. Locking

Inflammatory original post and the flames didn't stop.