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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 09:56 PM
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Is it "Moderate" enough yet to call for the Impeachment of W?
I mean...if even the AP is saying he lied to get is into Iraq...if not now, when?
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nnneptune Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 09:59 PM
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1. Impeach
I'm for doing it NOW! I guess we may have to wait until 2006....but he should be behind bars with his cronies!
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 11:29 PM
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4. I Couldn't Agree More nnneptune !!! - And Welcome To DU !!!
:bounce::toast::bounce:

Welcome aboard, lookin forward ta seeing you around!

:hi:
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FearofFutility Donating Member (764 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 01:02 PM
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14. The tide is turning against him
and hopefully it will be a tsunami. My friend is a Repub, voted for * twice, but she's starting to wake up! She knows all about the DSM and agrees that he should be impeached!! I never thought I'd see the day!!:woohoo:
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clydefrand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 09:59 PM
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2. Moderate hell! Haven't we been wanting that since the SOB got his
crown from the Supreme Court?
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mermaid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 10:07 PM
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3. But We Need The Moderates To Do It
With the overwhelming GOP majority in both Houses, it makes me wonder just how much it will take...and how much Commander Bunnypants will get away with before they finally DO impeach his sorry ass!

I mean, it didn't take much with Clinton. That was a witch hunt, and we all knew it. That was a Repuke majority trying to oust a popular sitting President.

Here, we have now an overwhelming GOP majority in both Houses...some of the people involved may, themselves, be compromised...or retailiated against by the National Party...for failing to cover the ass of an unpopular sitting President.

So, the question becomes...just how much DOES Commander Bunnypants get to get away with until FINALLY, at long last, we get to impeach his ass?
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 12:46 AM
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9. You start with what we've already got. MORE coverage about the
DSM in the mainstream media, and it'll only grow from here. AND, don't forget the polls that all show, across the board, that bush's job approval rating overall is down, and that his approval rating on Iraq is WAY down, plus nonscientific polls like the one at MSNBC showed something outrageous like 94 percent saying they believe he misled this country into war.

You start getting a bunch of stuff like that piling up, and you just watch: It'll be like chiseling little pieces, bit by bit, out of a retaining wall. When enough of those little pieces are chipped away, the wall will fall. You watch as Republican moderates, who've been bullied and silenced and cowed by these assholes up til now, and given them the benefit of the doubt over and over and over, now start distancing themselves from the pack. It'll be just a couple of 'em here and there for awhile. But as this gathers momentum, there will be more. Plenty enough to tip the numbers in the House, where the republi-CON majority isn't all that large.

Once they see which way the wind is blowing, and that the hardliners aren't the darlings of the national zeitgeist anymore, and that there's an increasing amount of anger in the air and in their mail and email and phone calls, they'll start balking. It will give them spine, too, to resist the tom delays of the world. And by the way, some of them, who no doubt are smarting over his ham-handed bullying of them, are probably eager to seek revenge. They may be ripe for any excuse to sidle over to the other side of the aisle and start making new friends and alliances. After all, NOBODY likes to be tied to a loser. And if this really starts to smell bad, and the momentum grows, you watch how many defections there'll be. Remember, every last one of these congressional people has to face the voters again in the next election. Their option comes up for renewal every two years. And if the folks at home are pissed and talking impeachment and angry that they've been lied to, none of these republi-CONS OR Republicans will want to be associated with that - in ANY way. bush will be the Toxic Texan we always knew he was. It'll just come as news to the rest of 'em.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 11:38 PM
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5. I am able to get along with just about everyone.
I don't get along with total assholes. I guess that makes me a "moderate".

I call for indictments against these bastards who betrayed our people, our nation and the world.

This adminstration BETRAYED our people,...and called meetings to profit off that betrayal. THAT'S TREASON!!!!
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 12:26 AM
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7. They are traitors.
They have no loyalty to this country or its people. They only use it to achieve their greedy evil purposes. They must be stopped once and for all! The rule of law has to come down on their heads so hard it will be decades before they are ever entrusted with the presidency or congress. America must never look back.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 11:49 PM
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6. Let's get the inquiry/investigation in gear first - it took 15 months to
get articles of impeachment going against Nixon - impeah Clinton over lying about a BJ is so ludicrous compared to the lies/deception of Bush and his cronies.

We should start making bumper stickers with DSM/Bush on them for openers! Some freegin thing! To many lives were as Bush refers to it, "sacrificed!!
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 11:58 AM
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13. "We should start making bumper stickers..."
Edited on Sat Jun-18-05 11:59 AM by KansDem
How about:

The GOP "talks the talk" about impeaching lying Presidents,
But will it "walk the walk" when the lying President is their own?

...too long?

or,

They Impeach Lying Presidents, Don't They?
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 12:36 AM
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8. Welcome to DU!!! And it's not merely "moderate." It's damned PATRIOTIC!
It's red-white-and-blue AMERICAN to call for impeachment. ABSOLUTELY.

ALL this stuff has to be repeated and repeated and repeated until it's ingrained in the national psyche - permanently. Until it becomes a "given." Once that happens, it's no longer just some outrageous or loonie or unrealistic pipe dream from a handful of "fringe lefties." It'll have morphed into a full-blown national movement.

Now that the fire is starting to burn, we must keep it well-stoked. YES. IMPEACHMENT. Some things just need to be said. And then, DONE.
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 01:29 AM
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10. Why not???
:bounce: :bounce:
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 11:09 AM
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11. By the way - for those who think Impeachment is not possible because
the GOP owns it all...

WP: Little Opposition From Party of 'Obstruction' – 6 18 05
Okay, guys, at the risk of sounding like a truly obnoxious nag...
PLEASE consider the following passage from this article:

"The truth is, while Democrats are now offering more vocal opposition to the president than they were in most of Bush's first term, their success in foiling Bush's second-term agenda has come only because Republicans have joined them."

For all those who fear something as ambitious as IMPEACHMENT is impossible because the GOP owns everything... please read that passage again.

It CAN happen. It HAS happened (this same dynamic is what brought Nixon down - it happened when the Republicans finally convinced one of their own that his survival was not possible). It is happening NOW (on the myriad issues listed in this article, for example). AND IT CAN HAPPEN AGAIN.
Little Opposition From Party of 'Obstruction'

By Terry M. Neal
Washingtonpost.com Staff Writer
Monday, June 20, 2005; 12:01 AM

-snip-
The president is suffering a case of the political blues right now. His agenda on major items such as Social Security, the energy bill, CAFTA (a proposed trade agreement with Central America) and John Bolton's nomination appears to be going nowhere fast. His plan to pack the courts with conservatives was compromised by members of his own party. And his handling of the war in Iraq is increasingly under attack.

-snip-
The truth is, while Democrats are now offering more vocal opposition to the president than they were in most of Bush's first term, their success in foiling Bush's second-term agenda has come only because Republicans have joined them.

"President Bush's status as a political lame duck is becoming clearer every day," said Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean in a statement on Thursday in response to a Washington Post story about opposition to the president's Social Security plan among Republicans. "His scheme for Social Security is not only being rejected by voters, but also by congressional Republicans worried about paying a political price at the ballot box in 2006."

-snip-
Second terms are always difficult. Bush will never run for president again; and even if it's early in his second term, the party is already anticipating a future without him. Compounding that historical difficulty are Bush's tumbling approval ratings. Bush's approval rating is far lower than any other second-term president at this stage in his term. While Bush remains popular with conservatives, his support among moderates and independents has tumbled. That means many members of Congress who represent either moderate districts or states have little to fear by straying off the partisan plantation.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...
From DU thread:
WP: Little Opposition From Party of 'Obstruction'
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1559688&mesg_id=1559688
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More Than A Feeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 11:51 AM
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12. Bush must fall.
History will remember him as the worst President ever.
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