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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 10:36 AM
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Imagine a John McCain vs Joe Biden race for President in '08
I'd likely put a bullet in my head if I had to choose to between those two.

Milktoast, try to be everything to everybody, status quo, political opportunists who have never met a microphone or camera they didn't like.
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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 10:38 AM
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1. McCain would kill Biden.
Which would be just as well. Biden is such a weakling, McCain would almost be preferable. Actually he would be preferable.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 10:44 AM
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5. no, they are equivalent
Please remember it was McCain who initially was against making Martin Luther King day a national holiday, was involved in the S&L crisis, is against Roe V Wade, but most of all campaigned and supported the jerk who is president now
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malmapus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 10:39 AM
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2. OMG what more could be an alarm that we need a third party
I'd be with you on the bullet
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 10:39 AM
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3. for me it would be over
either one of those people would insure that we would continue to stay in Iraq. Thousands more Americans and Iraqiis would be killed, and it would be years before we finally realized that this was worse than Viet Nam
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LizW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 10:40 AM
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4. Jesus.
The frenetic flag-waving alone would cause climate change. :eyes:
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 10:48 AM
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10. don't you know climate change doesn't exist? :)
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 10:45 AM
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6. I'd rather not
nt
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 10:45 AM
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7. While I am not a big fan of Biden, I feel McCain would be
another disaster. I never feel I am getting truth from McCain. He never answers questions with a real answer. His soft-spoken manner makes too many think he is a man we could trust. I simply do not trust any Republican.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 10:46 AM
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8. do I have to? good thing I haven't had breakfast yet
I liked Biden fine until the whole Bankruptcy thing and still have to give him some slack since all the big CC companies are based in Delaware because of their corporate friendly laws. I can't beat the guy up too much for supporting his home state constituents. But I don't think he's presidential material.

As for my esteemed Senior Senator McCain, he lost my respect when he cozied up to Bush after the horrible things the smear machine did to his wife and family in 2000. I respected the guy for years even though I didn't agree with many of his policies and refused to actually VOTE for the guy, I used to just pass by that section of the ballot on election day. (except last year we actually had a Dem run against him so it was fun to mark the big X in the senate race)

McCain I believe will have a tough row to hoe to get the nod from the right wing and I don't see either of them on the final ticket in '08

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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 10:49 AM
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11. Touche' Fellow AZan
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chaumont58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 10:47 AM
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9. I agree with your assessment that they are disastrous choices
but I would bet the press whores would look upon them as manna from heaven.
I confess to never being a McCain idolizer, and have no way of understanding it. He has Press the Meat all to himself this Sunday. Why?
As for Biden, good lord, what an example of essentially worthless self love. Every time I see him, I expect any second he is going to break out kissing himself. Joe Loves Joe.
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 10:51 AM
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12. McCain would trounce Biden. e/o/m
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 11:01 AM
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13. Imagine McCain vs Biden? No thank you.
I'd rather not.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 11:09 AM
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14. How about Jeb Bush with George Bush as VP
oops, forgot, you can't be a VP if you've been impeached.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 11:09 AM
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15. Suddenly, service in Vietnam would be ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL!!!
:sarcasm:
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tallahasseedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 11:13 AM
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16. No. Biden is not Presidential material.
Hell, sometimes I wonder if he is Senate material.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 11:17 AM
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18. nor is John kiss bush's butt McCain who'd rather be elected than
stand up for himself and his family against the vicious attacks on him made by the bush terrorists in the past 8 years or so.

If he will not stand up for himself, why should anyone believe he will stand up for us?

Msongs
www.msongs.com/political-shirts.htm
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 11:13 AM
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17. Revenge of the Pod Politicians
Both are good at projecting, deflecting and rejecting any ideas not invented inside the combover dome...
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ldf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 11:52 AM
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19. imagine me
sitting at home.

:shrug:
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 12:37 PM
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20. Imagine a Dean/Boxer third party ticket
Or Dean/Clark even. Dean/Conyers would work too. If the "Democratic" party nominates a PNAC signator for President, then they deserve to lose not only the election, but the party itself.
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 02:17 PM
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21. Biden is a 2 percenter
Every presidential race has the few serious candidates and ten the four to six 2 % candidates that stick around for a few debates and then quit. That's what Biden will do.
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