Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Important new essay and info from Sibel Edmonds! ("FBI and 9/11")

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
paulthompson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 10:08 AM
Original message
Important new essay and info from Sibel Edmonds! ("FBI and 9/11")
Edited on Mon Jun-20-05 10:26 AM by paulthompson
This is hot from the keyboard of FBI whistleblower Sibel Edmonds, just finished today. She just gave me permission to post the entire thing there at DU. Please read and spread the word!

In sum, she claims the FBI had the information to stop 9/11 and did nothing about it, and still messes up and covers up to this day, all because they've been told to protect "certain foreign business relations" and "certain diplomatic relations." Her gag order doesn't allow her to get more specific, but I think we can make some good guesses about what those phrases mean.


FBI & 9/11

By Sibel Edmonds

Over four years ago, more than four months prior to the September 11 terrorist attacks, in April 2001, a long-term FBI informant/asset who had been providing the bureau with information since 1990, provided two FBI agents and a translator with specific information regarding a terrorist attack being planned by Osama Bin Laden. This asset/informant was previously a high- level intelligence officer in Iran in charge of intelligence from Afghanistan. Through his contacts in Afghanistan he received information that: 1) Osama Bin Laden was planning a major terrorist attack in the United States targeting 4-5 major cities, 2) the attack was going to involve airplanes, 3) some of the individuals in charge of carrying out this attack were already in place in the United States, 4) the attack was going to be carried out soon, in a few months.

The agents who received this information reported it to their superior, Special Agent in Charge of Counterterrorism, Thomas Frields, at the FBI Washington Field Office, by filing “302” forms, and the translator, Mr. Behrooz Sarshar, translated and documented this information. No action was taken by the Special Agent in Charge, Thomas Frields, and after 9/11 the agents and the translators were told to ‘keep quiet’ regarding this issue. The translator who was present during the session with the FBI informant, Mr. Behrooz Sarshar, reported this incident to Director Mueller in writing, and later to the Department of Justice Inspector General. The press reported this incident, and in fact the report in the Chicago Tribune on July 21, 2004 stated that FBI officials had confirmed that this information was received in April 2001, and further, the Chicago Tribune quoted an aide to Director Mueller that he (Mueller) was surprised that the Commission never raised this particular issue with him during the hearing.

Mr. Sarshar reported this issue to the 9/11 Commission on February 12, 2004, and provided them with specific dates, location, witness names, and the contact information for that particular Iranian asset and the two special agents who received the information. I provided the 9/11 Commission with a detailed and specific account of this issue, the names of other witnesses, and documents I had seen. Mr. Sarshar also provided the Department of Justice Inspector General with specific information regarding this case.

For almost four years since September 11, officials refused to admit to having specific information regarding the terrorists’ plans to attack the United States. The Phoenix Memo, received months prior to the 9/11 attacks, specifically warned FBI HQ of pilot training and their possible link to terrorist activities against the United States. Four months prior to the terrorist attacks the Iranian asset provided the FBI with specific information regarding the ‘use of airplanes’, ‘major US cities as targets’, and ‘Osama Bin Laden issuing the order. ’ Coleen Rowley likewise reported that specific information had been provided to FBI HQ. All this information went to the same place: FBI Headquarters in Washington, DC, and the FBI Washington Field Office, in Washington DC.

In October 2001, approximately one month after the September 11 attack, an agent from (city name omitted) field office, re-sent a certain document to the FBI Washington Field Office, so that it could be re-translated. This Special Agent, in light of the 9/11 terrorist attacks, rightfully believed that, considering his target of investigation (the suspect under surveillance), and the issues involved, the original translation might have missed certain information that could prove to be valuable in the investigation of terrorist activities. After this document was received by the FBI Washington Field Office and retranslated verbatim, the field agent’s hunch appeared to be correct. The new translation revealed certain information regarding blueprints, pictures, and building material for skyscrapers being sent overseas (country name omitted). It also revealed certain illegal activities in obtaining visas from certain embassies in the Middle East, through network contacts and bribery.

However, after the re-translation was completed and the new significant information was revealed, the unit supervisor in charge of certain Middle Eastern languages, Mike Feghali, decided NOT to send the re-translated information to the Special Agent who had requested it. Instead, this supervisor decided to send this agent a note stating that the translation was reviewed and that the original translation was accurate. This supervisor, Mike Feghali, stated that sending the accurate translation would hurt the original translator and would cause problems for the FBI language department. The FBI agent requesting the retranslation never received the accurate translation of that document. I provided this information to the 9/11 Commission on February 132, 2004, and to the Department of Justice Inspector General in May 2002.

The latest buzz topic regarding intelligence is the problem of sharing information, intelligence, within intelligence agencies and between intelligence agencies. To this date the public has not been told of intentional blocking of intelligence, and has not been told that certain information, despite its direct links, impacts and ties to terrorist related activities, is not given to or shared with Counterterrorism units, their investigations, and countering terrorism related activities. This was the case prior to 9/11, and remains in effect after 9/11.

If Counterintelligence receives information that contains money laundering, illegal arms sale, and illegal drug activities, directly linked to terrorist activities; and if that information involves certain nations, certain semi- legit organizations, and ties to certain lucrative or political relations in this country, then, that information is not shared with Counterterrorism, regardless of the possible severe consequences.

In certain cases, frustrated FBI agents cited ‘direct pressure by the State Department,’ and in other cases ‘sensitive diplomatic relations’ is cited. I provided the Department of Justice Inspector General and the 9/11 Commission with detailed and specific information and evidence regarding this issue, and the names of other witnesses willing to corroborate this, and the names of certain U.S. officials involved in these transactions and activities.

Now, after almost 4 years, we get to hear new bits & pieces: FBI & Midhar’s Case; FBI & Abdel-Hafiz Case; FBI & Saudi planes leaving just days after 9/11 without having the passengers questioned; FBI & Youssef Case; and the list goes on.

Today, after nearly four years since 9/11, the American people still do not know that thousands of lives can be jeopardized under the unspoken policy of ‘protecting certain foreign business relations.’ The victims' family members still do not realize that information and answers they have sought relentlessly for almost 4 years has been blocked due to the unspoken decisions made and disguised under ‘safeguarding certain diplomatic relations.’

Where is the so-called congressional oversight? Why the 9/11 Commission intentionally omitted this info; although they’ve had it all along? Where is accountability?

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 10:15 AM
Response to Original message
1. is there a weblink for this
for forwarding purposes?

tia
dp

good to hear from you again, pt.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
paulthompson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 10:20 AM
Response to Reply #1
3. There's no weblink yet
This is the first it's appeared anywhere. However, it will be posted at her new website in a few hours, I'm told:

www.justacitizen.com
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 10:22 AM
Response to Reply #3
4. it's there now
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
paulthompson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 10:18 AM
Response to Original message
2. Some more info
Near the end, Sibel Edmonds refers to the cases of FBI agents Gamal Abdel-Hafiz and Bassem Youssef. You can read more about that in a new Time magazine story called "Who Blew the Leads?" There's a thread about it, here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3900403

There's also this rather shocking article about the FBI:

Terror Expertise Not Priority at FBI

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2005/06/19/national/w072246D97.DTL

And I already have an entry in my 9/11 Timeline regarding the Behrooz Sarshar case she mentions.

April 2001
FBI Translators Point to Explicit Warning from Afghanistan

FBI translators Sibel Edmonds and Behrooz Sarshar will later claim to know of an important warning given to the FBI at this time. In their accounts, a reliable informant on the FBI's payroll for at least ten years tells two FBI agents that sources in Afghanistan have heard of an al-Qaeda plot to attack the US and Europe in a suicide mission involving airplanes. Al-Qaeda agents, already in place inside the US, are being trained as pilots. By some accounts, the names of prominent US cities are mentioned. It is unclear if this warning reaches FBI headquarters or beyond. The two translators later privately testify to the 9/11 Commission. (World Net Daily, 4/6/04; Village Voice, 4/14/04; Salon, 3/26/04) Sarshar's notes of the interview indicate that the informant claimed his information came from Iran, Afghanistan, and Hamburg, Germany (the location of the primary 9/11 al-Qaeda cell). However, anonymous FBI officials claim the warning was very vague and doubtful. (Chicago Tribune, 7/21/04) In reference to this warning and apparently others, Edmonds says, "President Bush said they had no specific information about September 11, and that's accurate. However, there was specific information about use of airplanes, that an attack was on the way two or three months beforehand, and that several people were already in the country by May of 2001. They should've alerted the people to the threat we were facing." (Salon, 3/26/04) She adds, "There was general information about the time-frame, about methods to be used but not specifically about how they would be used and about people being in place and who was ordering these sorts of terror attacks. There were other cities that were mentioned. Major cities with skyscrapers." (Independent, 4/2/04)

And by the way, a big new update of my timeline has gone up, which you can see here:

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/searchResults.jsp?events=on&dosearch=Updates&project=911_project&periodlastchanged=June+2005

And we have a new timeline about the Downing Street Memo and related evidence, which you can see here:

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=complete_timeline_of_the_2003_invasion_of_iraq&key_events=DSM

So get reading! ;)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 11:14 AM
Response to Reply #2
8. Expertise Not Priority...
Christine Amapour: That ain't no Jordanian accent!!!
CNN: VACATION TIME!!! ;-)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Frederik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 10:26 AM
Response to Original message
5. Thanks, Paul
I wish she would tell what she knows. But I understand she's appealing to the Supreme Court. I hope she's sending this to all the major media outlets, but there's no reason to get our hopes up regarding any coverage.

This is what I'd like to know more about:

"If Counterintelligence receives information that contains money laundering, illegal arms sale, and illegal drug activities, directly linked to terrorist activities; and if that information involves certain nations, certain semi- legit organizations, and ties to certain lucrative or political relations in this country, then, that information is not shared with Counterterrorism, regardless of the possible severe consequences."

She's already hinted that it involves nuclear proliferation in addition to drugs, and her languages are Azerbaijani and Turkish, so it's reasonable to believe that what she has knowledge of through her translation activities in the Bureau relates to those countries.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 10:42 AM
Response to Original message
6. Intreresting how the lamestream media never has much to say on her case
In an exclusive interview on Saturday, we asked Edmonds if she would deny that laundered drug money linked to the 911 attacks found its way into recent House, Senate and Presidential campaign war-chests, according to what she heard in intelligence intercepts she was asked to translate.

<snip>

Edmonds is appealing the Bush administration’s arcane use of "state secrets privilege," invoked last year to throw out her U.S. District Court lawsuit alleging retaliation for telling FBI superiors about shoddy wiretap translations and allegations that wiretap information was passed to the target of an FBI investigation. Given our multiple reports and numerous other interviews, Edmonds heard much more--but enough to warrant public suppression of criminal evidence by a wholly Republican appeals court panel?

"Tom, I’m telling you that not a single newspaper covered what happened to me on Thursday when I went into court," said the exasperated translator, adding, " Ginsberg kicked everyone out, cut off my lawyer’s arguments and told us ‘we have questions to ask the government’s attorneys that you cannot hear.’ "

Criminal evidence in Edmonds’ explosive case is apparently getting too close to Washington officials, since the former contract linguist also told us she would not deny that "once this issue gets to be...investigated, you will be seeing certain (American) people that we know from this country standing trial; and they will be prosecuted criminally," revealing the content of the FBI intercepts she heard indicates that recognizable, very high-profile American citizens are linked to the 911 attacks.


http://www.tomflocco.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=109

Nominated.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 10:44 AM
Response to Original message
7. KICK!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 11:18 AM
Response to Original message
9. Is the text of the 7/21/2004 Chicago Tribune available?
I checked at their web site and it's archived there but it's not free.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
paulthompson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 11:52 AM
Response to Reply #9
13. article
If its not otherwise available, then I hope it isn't a problem if I post it here. It's a muddled article - really important things are buried, and some clear BS from a fake Iranian spy is thrown in. You have to dig for the key bits.


As U.S. Steps Up Investigation, Iran Denies Assisting Al Qaeda

by John Crewdson
The Chicago Tribune
July 21, 2004



WASHINGTON -- Federal intelligence agencies are following President Bush's directive to search for hints of Iranian involvement in the Sept. 11 attacks on New York and Washington, even as the Iranian government on Tuesday labeled such suggestions "ridiculous" and reiterated its official opposition to Al Qaeda.

The Bush administration's abrupt shift of focus from Iraq to its neighboring foe, Iran, came as an independent commission investigating the Sept. 11 hijacking plot put the final touches on a roughly 600-page report expected to outline longstanding links between the Iranian government and terrorist organizations, including Al Qaeda and Hezbollah.

"We're digging into the facts to determine" if there was an Iranian connection to Sept. 11, Bush told reporters this week, adding that he had "long expressed my concerns about Iran. After all, it's a totalitarian society where free people are not allowed to exercise their rights as human beings."

Iran has sponsored devastating terrorist attacks against U.S. interests, served as a refuge for senior leaders of Al Qaeda and has a burgeoning nuclear research program that is believed to be on the verge of developing an atomic weapon--all offenses of which the administration at one time suspected Iraq.

While Washington has focused extensively on Iraq, evidence linking Iran to Al Qaeda has continued to accumulate.

Virtually from the moment of the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, the White House began searching for substantive links between Osama bin Laden's Al Qaeda and the former Iraqi regime of Saddam Hussein, according to public accounts by several past and present administration officials.

That search has proved mostly fruitless.

In a television interview, Thomas Kean, the former Republican governor of New Jersey and chairman of the independent commission investigating the Sept. 11 attacks, said his panel's inquiry had found that "there were a lot more active contacts, frankly, with Iran and with Pakistan than there were with Iraq."

Earlier this month, the Senate Intelligence Committee, which is conducting a separate investigation of the administration's rationale for launching the war against Iraq, reported finding "no credible information" that Iraq possessed "foreknowledge of the 11 September attacks or any other Al Qaeda strike."

The independent Sept. 11 commission's report, scheduled for release Thursday, is likely to raise fresh questions about whether the administration's campaign to tie Baghdad to bin Laden might have been better focused linking him to Tehran.

Iran's sponsorship of terrorism, including attacks aimed at the U.S., is beyond dispute. Intelligence analysts are virtually unanimous in attributing the 1983 truck bombing of the U.S. Embassy in Beirut and the 1996 attack that killed 19 U.S. Air Force personnel stationed in Saudi Arabia to Iranian-funded terrorist operatives.

In the hours after Sept. 11, Bush declared war not just on Al Qaeda, but on governments that support it and other terrorist organizations. The administration, however, does not appear to have explored Iran's known and potential Al Qaeda connections with the same fervor that has marked its search for links between Al Qaeda and Iraq.

A frequent explanation for not pushing the Iranian connection harder is the administration's hope that Iran's radical Islamic government will eventually collapse from the inside, under pressure from a populace increasingly disillusioned with the stark fundamentalist doctrine espoused by the mullahs who have ruled Iran since the 1979 Iranian Revolution.

While the administration watches for signs of change in Tehran, reports of connections between Iran and Al Qaeda have persisted, and in some cases evidence has even been made public by the U.S. government.

According to a 4-year-old federal warrant issued in an Al Qaeda-related case in New York, during the mid-1990s a senior Al Qaeda figure, Mamdouh Mahmud Salim, negotiated an agreement among Al Qaeda, a Sudanese group and "elements within the Government of Iran" to plan joint attacks against the U.S. and Israel.

Robert Baer, a former CIA officer who spent several years in the Middle East, says he knows of "incontrovertible evidence" of a 1996 meeting in Jalalabad, Afghanistan, between bin Laden and a representative of the Iranian Ministry of Intelligence and Security, or MOIS.

Earlier this year, a former MOIS officer, Hamid Reza Zakeri, testifying in a Sept. 11 conspiracy trial in Hamburg, Germany, said he had assisted with security for two meetings in early 2001 between senior Iranian officials and their Al Qaeda counterparts.

Zakeri, who U.S. and German intelligence agencies say has a mixed record for reliability, provided the court and the German federal police with an account of a January 2001 meeting Zakeri said was attended by bin Laden deputy Ayman al-Zawahiri and the Al Qaeda leader's eldest son, Saad bin Laden. Zakeri also told of a second meeting in May 2001 attended by Saad bin Laden and Iranian officials.

Some top-ranking Al Qaeda figures, including bin Laden's former security chief, Saif al-Adel, Saad bin Laden, and possibly al-Zawahiri, reportedly took refuge in the aftermath of Sept. 11 in the Iranian city of Mashad, near the Afghanistan border.

Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman Hamid Reza Asefi was quoted by the official Islamic Republic News Agency on Tuesday as saying that even if Al Qaeda operatives had crossed the Afghan border into Iran, his government did not support them.

The Iranians also claim to have arrested Al Qaeda members who have entered their country from Afghanistan and say they plan to try some of them, but not all.

Visits to Iran

An Iranian connection with some of those who would become close to the Sept. 11 hijackers first surfaced in 1997, when German intelligence was tipped off by its French counterpart that Mohammed Haider Zammar, a Syrian immigrant and resident of Hamburg, had made repeated visits to Iran.

Zammar, now held in a Syrian jail, reportedly has confessed to recruiting, on behalf of Al Qaeda, a half-dozen Hamburg students who were to become the main Sept. 11 plotters.

One of the independent commission's findings to be announced Thursday, according to Time magazine, is that "Iranian officials issued specific instructions to border guards to facilitate the travel of Al Qaeda personnel in and out of the country, including orders that their passports not be stamped."

If true, that instruction evidently included some of those directly involved in the Sept. 11 attacks.

In December 2000, as three of the four Sept. 11 hijack pilots were concluding their flight training in Florida, a young Yemeni named Ramzi Binalshibh, who remained behind in Hamburg as the self-described "coordinator" of the Sept. 11 plot, applied for a visa at the Iranian Embassy in Berlin.

According to German police records, Binalshibh entered Iran on Jan. 31, 2001. The police say they do not know how long Binalshibh stayed in Iran or whom he saw there before returning to Germany on Feb. 28, 2001.

Six days before the hijackings, when Binalshibh fled Hamburg for the sanctuary of Afghanistan, German police records show that he again passed through Iran.

A former Al Qaeda associate, Shadi Abdallah, who met Binalshibh in Afghanistan while working as a bodyguard for Osama bin Laden, has testified in a German court that Binalshibh told him of frequent visits to Iran using a false Iranian passport.

In the summer of 2002, when police in Milan searched the apartment of the suspected Al Qaeda chief in Italy, they discovered what prosecutors described as a letter "giving precise indications on how to reach Afghanistan, particularly the city of Kandahar, while passing through Iran."

Post-Sept. 11 wiretaps on other Al Qaeda suspects in Milan revealed communications with "terrorist cells" in Iran. One of those under surveillance, Nassim Saadi, talked of visiting Iran and returning to Milan with about $2,500 from "the person in charge of the brothers" in Tehran.

According to a subsequent indictment, Saadi was overheard expressing his wonderment "at the plentiful availability of funds that the Mujahadin organization in Iran shows it has."

Beyond the question of whether the Iranian government has knowingly acted to assist Al Qaeda operatives lurks the larger question of whether the Iranians had some foreknowledge of the Sept. 11 hijacking plot.

Informant tipped off FBI

Five months before Sept. 11, a longtime informant for the FBI reported that Al Qaeda was planning a devastating terrorist assault in which the weapons were to be commercial airliners.

According to two sources familiar with that interview, the informant was short on details. In particular, nothing was said about the precise timing of the airborne attack, its location or its possible targets.

Law enforcement officials who have reviewed the April 2001 interview and at least one follow-up conversation insist that the informant's information, by itself, could not have led the bureau to the Sept. 11 plotters.

But the real significance of that information, according to a law enforcement official familiar with the case, may lie in its source: a former member of the Iranian intelligence service now living in the U.S. and known to his FBI handlers as "the Asset."

"His `subsource' was somebody back home" in Iran, said the law enforcement official, who spoke only on condition of anonymity. In the wake of Sept. 11, the official said, it appeared that "somebody in Iran had some knowledge of something" related to Sept. 11.

Talking to `the Asset'

Although the Asset has lived in the U.S. 25 years and speaks some English, the FBI has had trouble understanding him in the past. To guard against any misunderstanding, the two FBI agents assigned to interview him in April 2001 brought along an FBI translator fluent in his native language, Farsi.

The interview followed the standard FBI format. The agents posed their questions in English, which were then translated into Farsi. The Asset's replies were translated back into English as the agents took notes.

According to the law enforcement official, "there was talk about terrorists and planes," but no mention of when or where the attacks might take place.

It was the FBI agents' impression, the official said, that the target of the attacks could be "possibly here, but more probably overseas." The Asset also reported having heard a rumor that a plane would be hijacked to Afghanistan, the official said.

The FBI's translator, a former Iranian police colonel named Behrooz Sarshar, does not recall any mention of a hijacking to Afghanistan. But Sarshar, then a career FBI employee assigned to the translation section of the bureau's Washington field office, does remember the Asset saying the attacks might take place in the U.S. or Europe, and also that the terrorist-pilots were "under training."

After checking his notes from the interview, Sarshar said that, in addition to sources in Iran, the Asset had mentioned picking up information from Afghanistan and Hamburg.

Sarshar describes the Asset as part of an informal worldwide network of former Iranian intelligence officers who have remained in close touch after abandoning their homeland for Europe, Asia and the U.S., where many found work with Western police and intelligence services.

Some members of the network still travel back and forth to Iran, Sarshar said, or maintain contact with colleagues there via telephone and e-mail while waiting for the revolutionary Iranian government to fall.

According to Sarshar, the two FBI agents who interviewed the Asset were not visibly surprised by his report. It was his impression, Sarshar said, that the agents weren't sure whether to believe their informant, and that even the Asset wasn't convinced his information was true.

A few weeks after the initial interview, however, the agents and Sarshar paid a second visit to the Asset, who Sarshar said repeated essentially the same story.

Despite the coincidence of timing, none of the Asset's statements appear to have formed the basis for a controversial CIA briefing paper given to President Bush on Aug. 6, 2001.

"There was other sourcing for that," the law enforcement official said.

Headlined "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S.," the briefing paper, declassified in April, reported "patterns of suspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations for hijackings or other types of attacks."

Sarshar retired from the FBI in 2002 after an FBI agent complained to the Justice Department's Office of Professional Responsibility that Sarshar had discussed, "outside a secure setting," a federal anti-terrorist prosecution in Los Angeles on which he had worked.

Since leaving the FBI, Sarshar has been questioned by staffers for the Senate Judiciary Committee and the committee's leading Democrat, Sen. Patrick Leahy of Vermont. He also has been interviewed by the Justice Department's inspector general, who is looking into alleged irregularities in the FBI's Washington translation operation.

Translator answers questions

In February, Sarshar spent several hours answering questions in a secure conference room with staff members of the Sept. 11 commission. FBI Director Robert Mueller, who expected to be asked about the case during an appearance before the commission in April, was surprised when the commissioners never raised the question, according to aides.

At 67, Behrooz Sarshar still carries himself like the Iranian police commander he once was and moves with the confident, controlled stride of the 4th-degree judo black belt he still is.

In a recent two-hour interview, the first he has granted, Sarshar emphasized that he admires the FBI's professionalism and has no wish to damage that agency or his adopted country. Nor, he says, has he sought personal publicity.

His only interest, Sarshar said, is in helping "create a better system to confront such a thing in the future."

Sarshar agrees that the information from the Asset, by itself, could not have led FBI agents to the Sept. 11 plotters, who by April of 2001 had taken up residence in Florida and New Jersey and were in the final planning stages for the attack.

But he sees it as a vital piece of a puzzle that was never fully assembled. A few months after Sept. 11, Sarshar sought out the Asset for a final conversation. The man was "very proud" of the information he provided to the FBI, Sarshar said. "But he was also very angry," Sarshar says, that the puzzle had not been completed in time.





Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 02:58 PM
Response to Reply #13
21. Many thanks.
:hi:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 11:28 AM
Response to Original message
10. Isn't it treason to endanger national security?
Prioritizing foreign business and diplomatic relations over the security of the United States is treasonous, is it not?

:shrug:

Who placed Thomas Frields and Mike Feghali in their positions and to whom do these individuals reports?

:shrug:

That there are those at the highest levels of our government conspiring to cover-up a willful sacrifice of Americans' security for purposes of protecting foreign "assets" is a horrendous violation of our constitution and betrayal of our nation.

*shit*
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 11:28 AM
Response to Original message
11. Mike Feghali and Melek Can Dickerson
http://www.newswithviews.com/public_comm/public_commentary16.htm
Immediately after 9/11 while the FBI searched for lead and suspects, Mike Feghali, told Sibel Edmonds and other FBI translators to slow down or even stop translation of critical information related to terrorist activities so that the FBI could present the United States Congress with a record of an "extensive backlog of untranslated documents" and justify its request for budget and staff increases;

Immediately after 9/11 the FBI hired Melek Can Dickerson, a Turkish translator, who was given a top-secret clearance although she worked for organizations that were FBI targets of investigation and had ongoing relationships with two individuals who were FBI targets of investigation. Dickerson used her translator position to block investigations into those organizations until she left hastily in 2002 and to take top secret documents out of the FBI with the assistance of her supervisor, Mike Feghali, who was subsequently promoted to supervisor of the Arabic languages unit.


http://www.antiwar.com/edmonds/?articleid=3230
Melek Can Dickerson, a Turkish translator, was hired by the FBI after Sept. 11 and placed in charge of translating the most sensitive information related to terrorists and criminals under the Bureau's investigation. Dickerson was granted top secret clearance, which can be granted only after conducting a thorough background investigation. Dickerson used to work for semi-legit organizations that were FBI targets of investigation. She had ongoing relationships with two individuals who were FBI targets of investigation. For months, Dickerson blocked all-important information related to these semi-legit organizations and the individuals she and her husband associated with. She stamped hundreds, if not thousands, of documents related to these targets as "not pertinent." Dickerson attempted to prevent others from translating these documents important to the FBI's investigations and our fight against terrorism. With the assistance of her direct supervisor, Mike Feghali, she took hundreds of pages of top-secret intelligence documents outside the FBI to unknown recipients. With Feghali's assistance, she forged signatures on top-secret documents related to 9/11 detainees. After all these incidents were confirmed and reported to FBI management, Melek Can Dickerson was allowed to remain in her position, to continue the translation of sensitive intelligence received by the FBI, and to maintain her top-secret clearance. Apparently bureaucratic mid-level FBI management and administrators decided that it would not look good for the Bureau to have this security breach and espionage case investigated and publicized, especially after the Robert Hanssen scandal. The Melek Can Dickerson case was confirmed by the Senate Judiciary Committee. It received major coverage by the press. According to Director Robert Mueller, the inspector general criticized the FBI for failing to adequately pursue the espionage report on Melek Can Dickerson. I provided your investigators with a detailed and specific account of this issue, the names of other witnesses willing to corroborate this, and additional documents.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
paulthompson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 12:57 PM
Response to Reply #11
15. Yep. Treason!
These two engaged in some seriously criminal and treasonous behavior. And in the case of Mike Feghali, this all came out to the FBI higherups, and then he was promoted! What does that say about the criminality of those who promoted him? Are some people here going to blame that on mere incompetence again?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 11:38 AM
Response to Original message
12. The 9/11 whitewash commission was careful to stay away
Edited on Mon Jun-20-05 11:39 AM by burythehatchet
from any leads...but then that wasn't there mandate. They were only to told to find out what went wrong. Every member of that commission is a disgrace to America.

On edit - ...except for Max Cleland who had the decency to resign.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Liberal Dose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 11:59 AM
Response to Original message
14. Is Asscroft's block still on her, or is this a gag order by the Court?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nomatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 02:34 PM
Response to Reply #14
20. Spilled milk to Ashcroft
06/27/04
UPI
http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20040627-030547-4386r

"The translation issue goes to the heart of the pre-Sept. 11 failure of the FBI and the intelligence community in general to catch the attackers and stop the plot that killed nearly 3,000 people.

Secrecy experts say the affair appears to be part of a pattern of behavior by the Bush administration: the abuse of classification procedures to stifle public debate about politically sensitive aspects of the war against terrorism."

-snip-

"At a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing June 8, Ashcroft told lawmakers that he had personally signed off the classification decision, which he justified on national-security grounds.

"If there is spilled milk and there is no damage done," he said, "if you can recollect it and put it back in the jar, you're better off than saying, 'Well, it's spilled, no damage has been done, we might as well wait until damage is done.'"

This article has much to offer especially in light of DSM.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 01:16 PM
Response to Original message
16. Just noticed this thread after I posted mine in LBN...
It has since been moved to Editorials, but it has been getting quite a few votes and is high up on the "new" column of the greatest page. I'll give your thread a "greatest" vote Paul. Please do the same for mine. We need both of these threads to get pegged up where people can see them to keep the word getting out!

Here's another web link for this story...

http://news.baou.com/main.php?action=recent&rid=20294

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
paulthompson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 01:32 PM
Response to Reply #16
18. Your thread just got "greated"
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 01:34 PM
Response to Reply #18
19. Done!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
paulthompson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 10:51 PM
Response to Reply #19
28. thanks
by the way,
where did you get the Rebel with Sibel image?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 03:00 PM
Response to Reply #18
22. Thanks for posting
I'm always glad to see your posts- this subject is overwhelming in its volume, and you seem to have a real handle on it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 01:23 PM
Response to Original message
17. Another very important piece. May this courageous woman finally have
her say and ALL the truth about 9/11 be exposed! Some in the administration are now trying to pin the 9/11 attacks on the Iranians, with whom they wish to go to war.

Recommended (if there is still time)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 05:23 PM
Response to Original message
23. FBI shuts down Saudi terror cell investigation in Boston
Edited on Mon Jun-20-05 05:25 PM by EVDebs
http://www.madcowprod.com/index45.html

All about the Saudi software firm with FAA and intel connections and access. The whistleblower here is Indira Singh. Sybil and Indira should team up !

Who are the FBI covering up for ?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 06:36 PM
Response to Original message
24. Thank you and kick
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 06:39 PM
Response to Original message
25. This is quite something -- good to see you, Paul
I've missed you. :hi:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 06:46 PM
Response to Original message
26. I think the FBI was told by someone higher-up
to look the other way. There was quite a bit of information in the book House of Bush/House of Saud, about avoiding the appearance of 'racial profiling' middle eastern people as a Bush campaign theme in 2000. Sure makes MIHOP/LIHOP seem more and more credible.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 11:24 PM
Response to Reply #26
29. It Sure Does: MIHOP/LIHOP
Shew... Does not take a rocket scientist to understand this one bit.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 08:07 PM
Response to Original message
27. .
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 11:31 PM
Response to Original message
30. Someone should ask Sibel: LIHOP, MIHOP, or incompetent?
There are several investigations' worth of material she has carefully hinted at here. She is really trying hard to get the ball rolling....unfortunately, it is an uphill battle. I wonder if Sibel is a MIHOPr, a LIHOPr, or someone who believes that administration incompetence is unbounded?

Regardless, I hope that someday this woman gets the recognition she deserves for her courage, persistence, and sense of duty

As she repeatedly said, there are many officials and citizens who know this information but have not been courageous enough or patriotic enough to help the process uncover the facts. Sibel is having to take the risk herself...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Gay Green Donating Member (485 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 11:53 PM
Response to Original message
31. 9/11 LIHOP
Or MIHOP

:puke: :mad: :argh: :grr: :nuke: :banghead: :rant:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 12:17 AM
Response to Original message
32. When The Levee Breaks... Thanks Paul !!!
If it keeps on rainin', levee's goin' to break,
When The Levee Breaks I'll have no place to stay...

The drip, is becoming a torrent.

Treasonous bastards!!!

:nuke:


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 10:35 AM
Response to Original message
33. Why would Sibel refer to this massively flawed Tribune article?
The timing of her comment -- which gives a more specific picture than I've previously heard from her about blocked pre-9/11 intel from Iranian sources -- coincides with a renewed effort to tie UBL with Iran. That bothers me a bit.

When you have a chance to ask her, please do. Does she actually believe the thesis of that report -- that Iran provided far more substantial assistance to al-Qaeda than was acknowledged by the 9/11 Commission report? Or, was her reference to the article just historical, meant to illustrate and support her assertion that the information she published yesterday was already on the public record, and would not be a new disclosure that would put her in jeopardy with regard to the federal judge's restraining order?

By the way, haven't been able to find that reference yesterday to meetings in Washington scheduled for 09/12/01. I may have been thinking of the Deputies meeting held on 09/10 or some follow-on that was supposed to occur within the following few days to implement the new Presidential Directive rolled out on 09/04.

Thanks -
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
paulthompson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 01:19 AM
Response to Reply #33
34. This has nothing to do with Iran
The main warning she is talking about is from an Iranian citizen, yes, but based on information he'd heard from numerous sources in AFGHANISTAN, and also Hamburg, Germany (!). So this has nothing to do with the Iranian government.

I believe Sibel is aware of recent propaganda efforts directed against Iran, and she's trying to make sure her story won't be spun in that direction.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 08:02 AM
Response to Reply #34
36. Thanks for that clarification, Paul. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ngGale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 03:26 AM
Response to Original message
35. Sibel -- nobody ever mention's her name...
wonder why? Talked about failed intelligence - they gag intelligence and call the rest inept. :sarcasm:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Apr 25th 2024, 05:07 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC