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Mon Jun-20-05 10:37 AM
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Chris Matthews : The Truth About the Downing Street Memo |
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Tonight, Chris Matthews will discuss the "truth" about the Downing Street Memo. What will be his interpretation? Will he really tell the truth? Does the truth even matter? So what if he lied and conspired with the British to deceive the Congress and the American people? What's the big deal? If things turn out OK, all will be forgiven?
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Mon Jun-20-05 10:38 AM
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1. I can't figure out Tweety. |
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Mostly he disappoints me. I am not holding out much hope, but I do hope to be surprised.
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Mon Jun-20-05 10:38 AM
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2. The end justifies the means |
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That's the common excuse for the massacre lovers.
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Mon Jun-20-05 10:40 AM
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"I mean, we all knew Bush was lying in the first place, so what's the big deal now? And now, we'll move on to Joe Blow, lead juror at the Michael Jackson trial. And we'll follow that with the story of another beautiful blonde girl kidnapped in the tiny country of Whogivesadamn."
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Mon Jun-20-05 10:41 AM
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4. His truth, not necessarily "The Truth" |
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Tweety has a way of skewing things to the right.
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Mon Jun-20-05 10:42 AM
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5. This is exactly the kind of thing.... |
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that makes it very difficult for me to care what happens to this country. If we have that many people that think this is all ok, then we get what we deserve.
Reminds me of Malcolm X's "chickens coming home to roost" comment.
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Mon Jun-20-05 10:42 AM
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6. I don't trust Tweety anymore |
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Whatever guests he has on, he'll throw soft questions at the Reps and try to refute the Dems statements. IMHO.
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Mon Jun-20-05 10:51 AM
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11. That happens on all the cable networks, it seems to me.... |
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Repubs motives or explanations are seldom questioned. Democrats are criticized and mocked, no matter how right their position may be. This is a major problem...
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Mon Jun-20-05 11:01 AM
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13. Case in point: The Skewering of Senator Byrd. |
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The Repbulicans are branding him a racisit to take the focus off the 13 Republican Senators who refused to sign the Anti-Lynching Legislation.
I personally won't be tuning in to see Tweety do the right wing spin tap dance all over the DSM.
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Mon Jun-20-05 11:11 AM
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Ignore the snake under the picnic spread....Look at all those ants crawling around that donut!
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Mon Jun-20-05 04:50 PM
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37. T-Ball With Tweety... |
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If you are a Republican, it is "T-Ball With Tweety". If you are a Democrat, it is "Hardball With Chris Matthews".
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Mon Jun-20-05 10:43 AM
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7. Things are not/will not turn out OK, but the lies matter not a whit to |
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the faithful 'cause a Repuke president must be always get anything he wants in their view/mindset.
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Mon Jun-20-05 10:44 AM
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8. He rushed to the right after the election, but he was anti-war. ??? nt |
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Mon Jun-20-05 10:45 AM
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9. don't bet your $ on chris |
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I don't think anything will be "brought" out in the open from him....hes a true fence sitter and either is afraid ( of his boss)to bash bush or he truly defends the ass
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Mon Jun-20-05 11:36 AM
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23. I think, if anything, |
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Mon Jun-20-05 10:47 AM
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10. Not holding my breath, I am sure the guests will be party-line spouters |
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most Dems are tiptoeing around it and Reps are saying that its either old news or that its not accurate.
Chris will ask a sorta tough question, the Rep will counter and Matthews will agree with him, and say "so, its not really worth all this fuss then, right"
End of interview. He is not a real investigative journalist, his only interest lately seems to be congratulating himself on his anniversary and feeling important because people spoof him (and showing the clips).
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Mon Jun-20-05 10:52 AM
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12. Oh boy, must-wretch TV |
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Tweety can't get too exercised over the wingnuts even when one of them challenges him to a duel on the air. Instead, he smiles nervously and tells the insane person he hopes to have him on again some time.
The only way any truth will seep onto the air of Tweety's program will be the purest accident, and he'll disavow it in a subsequent program once the Ministry of Truth has contacted him about it.
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Mon Jun-20-05 11:02 AM
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14. He wouldn't know the truth if it bit him in the ass |
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he will ask whatever questions Rove gave him permission to ask.
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Mon Jun-20-05 11:04 AM
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15. Matthews will probably repeat the new RW spin |
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that the memo is a fake because the Times reporter made copies of it.
See the article on the Death of the Mainstream Media at www.mydd.com for a fascinating take on that.
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Mon Jun-20-05 11:13 AM
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19. So all copies of documents are now suspect? |
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Won't this play hell with the bottom line for Xerox, Canon, Kinko's, etc.?
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Mon Jun-20-05 11:18 AM
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21. I thought it was already known that the minutes were re-typed to |
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protect the leaker. This spin can't fly for long -- they've been acknowledged as being authentic in the UK.
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Mon Jun-20-05 11:50 AM
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28. Look what happened with |
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"Dan Rathergate" and "Newsweekgate"
Both of those stories are 100% correct
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Karl Rove has successfully cast doubt on them by the way they were reported and framed after the fact.
How the hell does he do that.
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Mon Jun-20-05 06:29 PM
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42. most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker |
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'Most people prefer to believe that their leaders are just and fair, even in the face of evidence to the contrary, because once a citizen acknowledges that the government under which he lives is lying and corrupt, the citizen has to choose what he or she will do about it. To take action in the face of corrupt government entails risks of harm to life and loved ones. To choose to do nothing is to surrender one's self-image of standing for principles. Most people do not have the courage to face that choice. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all.' -Michael Rivero
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Mon Jun-20-05 11:06 AM
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16. the truth? Chris Matthews? |
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Mon Jun-20-05 11:09 AM
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17. At least we'll learn what spin the RW came up with over the weekend. nt |
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Mon Jun-20-05 11:15 AM
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20. Please don't mention "The Truth" and "Chris Matthews" in the same post |
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It causes my browser to freeze up and then my computer starts laughing hysterically before it shuts down.
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Mon Jun-20-05 11:21 AM
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22. media got their E-Mails |
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give it some air time..
follow up with with the words"myths". .distortions zealous Democrats, " real Americans Know". .....bush was misinformed.
......the usual rabble..............
Right?
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Mon Jun-20-05 12:14 PM
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30. Why are we still giving the lamestream media any thought? |
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Mon Jun-20-05 11:36 AM
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24. Today this story has hit the big time... |
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Not only will Chris Matthews discuss it but Rush Limbaugh is talking about it on his radio show. Naturally, they will attempt to discount it and minimize it in every way they know how. But, will they be successful?
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Mon Jun-20-05 11:39 AM
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25. I'm getting the sickening feeling |
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that the attack machine is in overdrive. By the end of the day, the 'question' of the documents 'verification' and Smith's motives will be all that is discussed.
As to what the documents say and discussion about that...meh, old news.
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Mon Jun-20-05 11:41 AM
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26. I saw a promo for his show tonight.... |
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...it mentioned he'll be separating "fact from fabrication"...so everybody, take notes, and email your comments after the show to:
hardball@msnbc.com
Your feedback is very important! Just remember, be polite and at the very least, include your full name, city and state. Especially let them hear from you if you disagree with the coverage. Again, politely send them in the direction of hard facts and information sources if you feel they are misinformed.
Go Team Go
:patriot: :kick:
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Mon Jun-20-05 11:43 AM
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27. I'm glad the Top Democrats allowed the Republicans define this issue |
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...by remianing silent.
What a great "strategy."
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Mon Jun-20-05 11:55 AM
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29. Actually, I do think he'll tell the TRUTH ... |
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T he R epublican U napposed T reason & H ubris
You know - that TRUTH. Best I can do off the top of my head - feel free to improve on.
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Mon Jun-20-05 12:36 PM
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33. Welcome, Eastside Blue! |
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Love it on the TRUTH. Also,
Treasonous Republicans United for Total Hegemony
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Mon Jun-20-05 12:38 PM
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OK - I like your TRUTH better than mine!
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Mon Jun-20-05 12:24 PM
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it's no smoking gun, just the Brits' opinion. Doesn't hurt the president at all. And besides, it's old news.
Just my guess.
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Mon Jun-20-05 12:33 PM
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32. I think you're close... |
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Is this a fact or an opinion? That will likely be his approach. Never mind that it is a top-secret document, which are not usually classified for opinion reasons, but for policy reasons...
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Mon Jun-20-05 12:47 PM
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35. He'll dismiss the importance of the DSM ... |
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as another example of whackjobs going overboard on facts that we've known along.
Case in point .. on Imus
IMUS: How's Howard Dean working out for you Democrats?
MATTHEWS: Me Democrats, well, I think the fact that he is off tone, that he seems like over the top, a bit of a whackjob, says what's going on in the country today. I think we're going to talk about it this week on The Chris Matthews Show. This country is so moving toward the center, away from the whackjobs.
Imus mistakenly referred to Matthews as Dem ... he may have been one aeons ago but it's obvious that he's a Bush shill now.
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Mon Jun-20-05 12:54 PM
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Dear Chris,
I have always liked your show but now I am starting to feel like you are giving the Bush administration a pass far too often. I heard that you are covering the Downing Street Memo tonight. I am afraid that you will just try to dismiss it and not make a serious attempt to get an explanation for this troubling piece of information. I hope you will treat this as the legitimate issue that it is and try to get to the bottom of this memo, our motives in Iraq, and possible deception by the Bush and Blair administrations in the run up to war. Please, please keep in mind that even if this memo was a fake – which I do not believe it is, but I think some Republicans will try to tell you – the issue still remains. This memo is NOT the issue but rather one clue to getting to the bottom of this issue. The issue is our motives in Iraq and possible deception by the Bush and Blair administration in the run up to war. I hope for a fair, factual and informative discussion tonight.
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Mon Jun-20-05 05:19 PM
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38. I used to kind of like Chris Matthews |
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But that all ended about a year or so ago. Then about the time he had the Swift Boat Liars on is when I started to despise him.
He won't tell the truth, he'll dismiss them as nothing. Absolutely nothing.
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Mon Jun-20-05 05:29 PM
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39. He'll takes any port in a political storm |
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Edited on Mon Jun-20-05 05:31 PM by rocknation
He'll either make a total fool of himself by hyping the fact that the reporter typed the minutes from photocopies of the originals (and totally ignoring the fact that NO one has disputed either their existence or contents), or he'll actually try to be fair and balanced about it because he doesn't want to make a total foor of himself.
:shrug: rocknation
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Mon Jun-20-05 05:30 PM
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40. I heard that Chris Matthews is on vacation |
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David Gregory will be doing the show. Is this true?
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Mon Jun-20-05 06:28 PM
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41. TUNE IN "HARDBALL" NOW |
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Tweety's on vacation, another guy is filling in for him. I didn't catch his name yet, just switched over.
He is going to talk to the British reporter who broke the story NEXT.
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Mon Jun-20-05 06:33 PM
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43. "The memo is picking up steam in the U.S." |
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...the problem with the memo, however....Here We Go!
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Mon Jun-20-05 06:47 PM
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44. Is it just me, or does the term |
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"anti-war activists" connote a bunch of radical "lefty loonies?" I think it is really misleading.
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Mon Jun-20-05 06:57 PM
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45. I agree. How about pro-legal, or anti-criminal 'activists'. n/t |
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