Kerry: He's on His Side! An anti-frontrunner linkfest. (Kaus)

[windansea]

Kerryphobia Korner: Many emailers have told me I should lay out more rigorously my reasons for opposing John Kerry. I'll try to do that during the coming post-New Hampshire "Turkey Shoot." For those who can't wait, here's a) a link to John Ellis' item on Kerry's "pathetic" '90s attempted rethinking of affirmative action, and b) Todd's Treasure Trove of Kerry Kontradictions, in today's New York Times, and c) a link to a medium-sized kf rant about the senator, from a year ago. Actually, here's most of it:

It's been barely two months since Kerry declared for president, and he's already 1) zig-zagged opportunistically on the Iraq war issue and 2) zig-zagged opportunistically on the dividend taxation issue. (Kerry called for "ending the double taxation of dividends" in his major December economic speech and then denounced President Bush's plan, which ends the double taxation of dividends, for creating "unaffordable new tax breaks for the wealthiest Americans." ) Now -- amazingly and all-too-predictably -- Kerry has started rhapsodizing about the Jewish roots he's been ignoring for decades, according to Globe columnist Jeff Jacoby:

His reactions are relevant only because they seem to fit his career-long pattern of equivocation and calculation -- trying whenever possible to have it both ways, always maneuvering to leave himself an out.

more..
http://slate.msn.com/id/2094126/

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

1. "ending the double taxation of dividends"

I get it - super rich Kerry wants to give himself and his super-rich wife a tax cut?

This is the opposite of Edwards - Edwards wants to tax wealth, not work. Kerry wants to tax work and give rich people and their unearned income a tax break.

Well, it's another issue that Kerry and his brother Bush have in common.

[flpoljunkie]

13. Kerry has said ONLY if it is PAID FOR by ending corporate subisides, NOT

the Bushco way. Kerry has also headed the small business administration committee--he realizes that small businesses are the backbone of this country' economy.

Bushco doesn't believe in free market capitalism-crony capitalism is their rigged game. They are neither conservative nor compassionate. And the people of this country are finally waking up to this fact.

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

22. and Kerry tooks leadership ending corporate subsidies when?

He's been in the Senate for years ... he sponsored which legislation? Was he successful in any way?

[Ruti]

2. Well, there ya' go!

Wouldn't it be just too hilarious if this has all been an f***ing joke on us?

Remember in the beginning that everyone said it would be Kerry?

What if Rove made up the others just to amuse us (bread and circuses)?

And, in the end, after a hard-fought (ahem) primary season, Kerry turns out to be the nominee.

(pouting)

[jpgray]

3. I wonder when you'll be satisfied. :-)

If you want answers to your questions, feel free to use the "search" function. All these issues have been vetted before.

[windansea]

9. apparently not for some

move along?...nothing to see here?

or is it praise only permitted??

[jpgray]

11. Say what you want, but isn't this your 1254th anti-Kerry thread this week?

:)

I don't believe I've seen a recent post of yours that wasn't after Kerry. Now that you're down to bloggers, these posts will probably find their way more quickly to the archives. I'd love to respond to every one of these you post, but I don't have the time! Seriously, use the search function in the archives--odds are most of your "questions" were answered long ago.

[windansea]

12. actually I post all kinds of stuff...in other forums

this week I'm testing the Kerry defenses...:)

and Mickey's rant cites articles in NY Times and Boston Globe...hardly bloggers

sorry I don't have search function yet...but will soon

[jpgray]

16. Well, as polls will show, Kerry folks are way outnumbered here

We aren't able to crush negative posts under the weight of our numbers. Also, we don't start many negative posts ourselves. Yeah, I could post something about how Dean rolled over for corporations and spat on the environment in Vermont, or how Clark voted for Republicans and was on the boards of some defense contractors, but I prefer not to. Plus I *like* both Clark and Dean.

edit: Kerry makes mistakes, like any other politician. But people here somehow expect him to make zero mistakes--they hold him to a ridiculously high standard the other candidates aren't held to.

[windansea]

25. I will support JK 100% if he wins nomination

but currently Clark is my #1 choice...and I don't want JK to run away with the prize just yet...posting a negative thread or commenting positively on it are the same thing to me...and when Clark got mauled in the debate by fox I mostly saw only Clark supporters defend him.

currently the candidates all say they have stopped the negative campaigning...but on the ground the flyers tell another story

[jpgray]

27. You missed my post, then. :-)

But there's nothing wrong with your threads, keep posting them. At least you have links, etc. to back up your assertions. Yes, Kerry does do negative attacks, and I don't care for that. But if I see one more thread with the out-of-context "crying in teacups" or something to do with S&B, my head will explode, because we have vetted these time and TIME again, and the same people just forget the response and post the same shit again. All part of being the perceived "frontrunner", I suppose.

[windansea]

29. ok you get a star! n/t

[Monte Carlo]

4. Blah blah blah...

If I had a fake job like Mickey, I could comb the internet for everything negative ever said about Kerry, too.

[Nazgul35]

6. There's nothing fake about the Afirm. action speech...

and a lexus-nexus search will reveal that to you....

For those of you unaware of the context, it seems Kerry gave a speech back in 1991 where he was critical of Afir. action....which received much more condemnation than Dean's confederate flag comment (i.e. the NAACP came out against KErry, not Dean....many AA at the time were outraged...). Kerry refused to appoligize....

Many at the time saw it as an opportunistic stance by Kerry, who at the time was trying to land the number two spot on the Clinton ticket....

He also has no reasonable excuse for his No vote on the Gulf War Resolution (1991: Bush I has UN authorization, Iraq troops raping Kuwait, Multinational force) and his Yes vote on the Iraq War Resolution (2002: Scanty evidence of WMD, no UN authorization, no multinational force)....

I could offer a possible explanation....for th GWR, the election was held before the vote and for the IWR the election was held after the vote.......

But Kerry is not an opportunistic politician....

[Monte Carlo]

10. I know Kerry is no pure-white politician...

... because they don't exist. Compromise and opportunism are part of the game. Let me know when this all becomes a big deal.

[diamond14]

5. Kerry's grandmother is Jewish? is that cool.....what a great guy

a real American mix....


if Kerry's grandmother is indeed Jewish (as claimed in the articles above)...it's just ONE more reason, that Kerry should be OUR President...


GO Kerry, beat bush*
http://www.JohnKerry.com

[Nazgul35]

8. By that reasoning....

Clark, who's father was Jewish or Dean who's wife is Jewish should have higher marks from you....

[THUNDER HANDS]

14. well, technically on the sliding scale of jewishness

Your grandmother being Jewish would be a higher ranking Jew than if your father or wife were.

:)

[lurk_no_more]

28. Wouldn't be logical to assume that

if ones father was Jewish, that one or more of his grandparents on his fathers side would also be jewish and so on and so forth?


And then there were none!
” JAFO”

[JohnKleeb]

31. heh I wouldnt know lol

:shrug: I am Catholic. Even if Kerry was what I originally thought he was, and that was Irish, hey its a very Irish sounding name and even a county over there ya know. It is pretty neat that Kerry had some blood he found about though recently.

[quinnox]

7. I've tried reading this guy's column before

Ugh, I have seen better analysis and writing on dime a dozen blogs.

[KoKo]

15. Look at who he gives as sources for more Kerry Dirt! Coulter, Kurtz,...

Kaus says he's a Democrat who would rather have Bush than Kerry! Come On! Now I know why I never liked the guy or could stomach his columns on Slate. If he's a Democrat he's a Miller Dem. Check this out from his article! Unbelievable that he sends folks to read Wingers!



"P.P.S.: Unlike many fellow Democrats, I don't worry so much that a blatantly flawed figure like Kerry will lose to President Bush. I worry more he won't lose. ...

P.P.P.S.: See also Brooks, Jacoby, Kurtz, Vennochi, Coulter and Beinart! ... 11:49 P.M."

[quinnox]

17. Yea, what a idiot

Kaus needs to go write Fox news editorials.

[jpgray]

18. Yikes! David Brooks, Kurtz, Coulter, Beinart and Jacoby!

Couldn't he find some decent sources?!

[bigtree]

19. That's the pattern here against John Kerry

Any rag, and any hack is allowed in as long as they oppose John. I want to know if the posters agree with all of the republican hack's drivel or just the parts where they criticize John Kerry?

[spooky3]

20. I followed the links for the affirmative action comment. They led back

ONLY to David Brooks' (ug) column. Brooks has shown (as evidenced in past DU threads) that he is not committed to telling the truth, so I have no confidence in his assertions whatsoever.

[jpgray]

21. Yeah, a regular on the Daily Howler--total whore

Equates opposition to neoconservatives with anti-Semitism, for example.

[windansea]

23. I think Kaus wants an outsider

like Dean or Clark...not sure...he is credited as being the godfather of blogging

[jpgray]

24. He votes only on "character", and ranks Bush and Clark the same

He's a moron, in other words. Here's his order:

"Right now,they are, in order: Edwards / Dean / Gephardt / Lieberman / a Bush-Clark tossup / the complete telephone books of all major American cities / Kerry"

[windansea]

26. LOL

didn't see that...that telephone book comment is harsh!!

don't know why he hates Kerry so much...Edwards is probably the most conservative candidate...



http://www.politicalcompass.org/

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

30. damn, he doesn't like Kerry too much

why exactly?

[David Dunham]

32. No One Gives a Darn What that Turd Mickey Kaus Thinks

[NewHampster]

33. I'll add my piece and sorry if it stops the thread

A joke going around that will come out in the GE if JK is nominated. Its a takeoff on a Lawyer joke.

John Kerry's sleeping habits.

First he lies on his left side, then he lies on his right side.

And I do think this joke is completely relevant to the discussion of his electability. Karl Rove is drooling for Kerry and terrified of Dean.