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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 09:13 AM
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CNN: "Graveyards are littered with under-estimators of Bush" - (VIDEO)
June 21, 2005

Video - CNN: "Graveyards are littered with under-estimators of Bush"
Presidential historian, Alan Lichtman, concludes his interview by saying that:

"Graveyards in this town (DC) are littered with the bodies of those who have under-estimated George W. Bush"




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atommom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 09:14 AM
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1. They may have misunderestimated how despicable he is
but I don't think anyone will make that mistake again.
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reality based Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 09:16 AM
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2. or of those who expected him to play by the rules n/t
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 09:17 AM
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3. Yeah, but the hot movie this summer is DAWN OF THE DEAD!
and they're PISSED!
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 09:17 AM
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4. yeah
like the US deficit
The US reputation
The US goodwill
The people of Iraq
The US soldiers that die
AND THE USA

What you trying to do CNN
You losing your reputation fast
Still to bush boy and you fall with him.
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 09:18 AM
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5. many of the war dead overestimated him ...
they believed he went to war with honorable intentions ... they believed he had a plan to "win the PEACE" ... they believed he would support the troops and give them the gear they needed to protect themselves ... they believed he would not leave them in Iraq with inadequate troop strength ...

just a bunch of trusting, dead fools ...

i honor their service; i deplore their judgment ...
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funkybutt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 09:21 AM
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6. I don't understand exactly what he meant but it sounds offensive!
is he saying those who have died somehow deserve their premature death b/c they underestimated Bush? What exactly does he mean by this??
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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 09:33 AM
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7. I don't know what he meant by it
and I don't know what he meant by having that strange smirk while he said it.


Regardless, Soldiers that under-estimated that they would have to go to Iraq and die, are in the graveyards.

The graveyards and mass graves in Iraqis and Afghanistan are filled with bodies that may have under-estimated the ruthlessness of Bush's wars.

Associates and enemies of the Bush Family may find themselves in a grave after suspicious plane crashes and suicides.

People all over America, who have died from a lack of health care, may now be in their grave because we under-estimated how Bush would ignore his campaign promises to protect Americans.


Whatever he meant by saying this, there could be more truth in it than intended.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 09:49 AM
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11. My initial thought, too.
Edited on Tue Jun-21-05 09:50 AM by LibDemAlways
A chilling comment considering how many people are actually in their graves because of the BFEE.

Think of the 911 victims who never heard the same warnings the admin. did in a memo titled "Bin Ladin Determined to Strike in U.S" during the "summer of threats." While those ordinary citizens were going about their business shortly before their annihilation, the PNACers were looking for their "New Pearl Harbor," the excuse they needed to justify the destruction and death they were itching to unleash on the Middle East. Those innocent people were offered up as human sacrifices to the gods of imperialism and greed - and there isn't enough left of most of them to even bury in a graveyard.

When he leaves the WH, * need not sit for a Presidential portrait. Surely there's an art poster of the grim reaper that will suffice.
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 09:33 AM
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8. He's talking about people who
predict the end of Bush's presidency(power).
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funkybutt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 09:48 AM
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10. That's a fucked up thing to say!
I don't know if anyone knows what he meant except him. Either way, it was totally inappropriate and almost ironic.

I would guess that the majority of the 1723 dead american solders voted for Bush. (that's just a guess)
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 09:43 AM
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9. I would guess they are filled with those who opposed the Crime
Family.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 09:58 AM
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12. It's a metaphor--he means opponent's political carreers are over
at least, that's the overt meaning.

Meanwhile, in :tinfoilhat: territory, we have

www.bushbodycount.com
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funkybutt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 10:05 AM
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14. That's got to be what he was meaning
Because otherwise there wouldnt' be so much smirking and giggling between the two of them.

What a terrible metaphor for a historian to use! GRAVEYARDS IN THIS TOWN...that's not very clear at all. Had he said "political graveyards" it would have been crystal clear the meaning he was getting at.
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funkybutt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 10:02 AM
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13. Here's the text from that video....I'm still trying to figure it out!!
Edited on Tue Jun-21-05 10:06 AM by funkybutt
Soledad - "Allen before I let you go here, 2 quick thoughts. One as you are sort of highlighting here...Numbers can change very quickly depending on what happens overseas obviously AND the president really is considered very strong in some areas. I mean thats... TO some degree those numbers reflect the fact that he's tackling the tough issues that other people historically have stayed away from because they're the tough issues."

Allan Lichtman - "That right. This president is the "hedgehog" president, he moves ahead regardless of distractions. And you've got to give him credit for taking on the big issues for dreaming big. And I've got to tell you, Soledad, THE GRAVEYARDS IN THIS TOWN, as you know, ARE LITTERED WITH THE BODIES OF THOSE WHO HAVE UNDERESTIMATED GEORGE W BUSH."

-then Soledad giggles and Lichtman smiles proudly as they thank each other.
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 10:06 AM
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15. What a Creepy F@cker!
Man...that dude is creeeeeepy. What a scary, smarmy, smile he lays on toward the end of that vid. He is so high on the Kool Aid he doesn't know which end is up.
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