Impeach Bolton & Bush in ONE SWEEP [let Bush recess appoint him]

[berni_mccoy]

If Bolton is Recess Appointed by Bush, he becomes an official member of the administration.

According to the articles of impeachment by the U.S. Constitution, anyone in the administration can be impeached for high-crimes and misdemeanors, treason and/or bribery.

Given the evidence regarding the Plame case and the DSM, we must investigate if Bolton is guilty of these crims. The administration refuses to release the FBI documents regarding this in order for the Senate to make it's confirmation.

So let Bush recess appoint him.

Then Congress immediately opens up an impeachment investigation and the Bush admin is FORCED to release the documents.

Then we find enough evidence to Impeach Bolton, guilty of Treason (i.e. Plame).

AND because Bush knew this, he's guilty of Treason too (by recess appointing someone he knows is a traitor).

Bush, "BRING IT ON!"

[bowens43]

1. WE can't impeach anyone , and they won't.

You do understand that the Democratic minority cannot impeach anyone.

[Wildewolfe]

2. Actually...

That kind of depends on the MSM. If bush's allies start to bail because the water gets too hot, and it all gets reported in the MSM properly, you could see a republican congress impeach them all in order to save their own skins.

[fryguy]

14. far fetched

since that relies on the MSM actually reporting.....which it won't considering the fat-cat owners will still be making profits thanks to their WH friends irrespective of what repubs in congress do.....

[Wildewolfe]

16. Not as far fetched as it might seem...

The DSMs are a wonderful example of the power of the blog and the internet to get the message out for a start. It took time and they are still trying to downplay it, but the message did get out and the MSM was forced to start coverage of it.

The power to force it starts here.

[fryguy]

18. we should be doing more to win back congress in 06

than fantasize about convincing the number of GOPers necessary impeachment (see my post #13 below).

and re: the DSMs, while they are getting some press now it seems to me highly unlikely that the MSM will stick with the story anymore than they did with the PDB, and will instead let the WH continue to spin and whitewash the story as they wish.

[Wildewolfe]

19. the two concepts are not mutually exclusive

I agree we need to focus efforts on regaining control of house, senate and the WH in electoral efforts.

However, the fallout from a well run campaign, whether successful or not at impeachment, will open a great deal of congressional real estate for us.

The MSM could not avoid covering it, and the scandals that by all rights "should" come out of all of it again "should" ruin more than one repub's career.

[fryguy]

21. no argument there - n/t

[longship]

3. If CuckooBananas goes,

and Cheney goes that will leave Pelosi as President.

She will forthwith appoint a new UN Ambassador.

[Internut]

5. I don't think you have the succession sequence quite right. n/t

[LifeDuringWartime]

7. i thought it was tom delay

although if this ethics thing ever gets him out of his position, who would take his place?

[yodermon]

9. Only after 2006 elections...

and ONLY if the Dems regain a majority in the house,
and ONLY if Pelosi is elected Speaker.

a scenario I like, of course :toast:

[markbark]

10. Um.... methinks you need to re-read the 25th amendment

Succession goes thusly:
* Vice President
* Speaker of the House (Dennis Hastert (R-Il))
* President Pro Tempore of the Senate (Ted Stevens (R-Ak))
* Secretary of State (Condoleeza Rice)
* Secretary of the Treasury (John Snow)
* Secretary of Defense (Nosferatu...er Donald Rumsfeld)
* Attorney General (Alberto Gonzales)
* Secretary of the Interior (Gale Norton)
* Secretary of Agriculture (Mike Johanns)
* Secretary of Commerce (Carlos Gutierrez)
* Secretary of Labor (Elaine Chao)
* Secretary of Health and Human Services (Mike Leavitt)
* Secretary of Housing and Urban Development (Alphonso Jackson)
* Secretary of Transportation (Norm Mineta)
* Secretary of Energy (Samuel Bodman)
* Secretary of Education (Rod Paige)
* Secretary of Veterans Affairs (Anthony Principi)
* Secretary of Homeland Security (Michael Chertoff)

As you can see, Pelosi's name is nowhere to be seen among this rogue's gallery of Republican pestilence.

The only "warm cuddly" one gets from reading this list is that hopefully the top seven or eight would be in the dock with Little Georgie.


--MAB

[Internut]

11. Alright! Takes only 3 simultaneous impeachments for

this country to have both its first woman president and its first black president.

[fryguy]

20. 3 U.S.C. sec. 19

Not to be pedantic, but the XXV Amendment only sets forth that the Vice President will succeed the President.

3 U.S.C. 19 (http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=browse_usc&docid=Cite:+3USC19) contains the complete list of succession as decided by statute and which you cited.

[longship]

23. This is the scenerio

First, there's no impeachment until Dems achieve a majority in the House of Representatives, in which case Nancy Pelosi would be the likely Speaker of the House.

Second, impeaching Bush would just put a worse person in as Pres namely, Dick "Are the lambs still crying, Clarisse" Cheney. Impeaching him, too, becomes imperative.

That put Pelosi in as President, just as I said.

[fryguy]

15. Dennis Hastert (speaker of the house) is third in line

Pelosi is the minority leader.

[Norquist Nemesis]

4. ummm....we don't yet know all of the evidence in the Plame case

but I agree that there is a high suspicion Bolten was involved.

[berni_mccoy]

6. Enough connection to justify further investigation

At least the Senate Democrats (and some Senate Republicans) believe so...

[Laura PourMeADrink]

8. Man - The creep Bolton is everywhere - at the fraudulent Florida

recount in 2000, to spying on people, to stong-arming intelligence analysts, to Plame ?

Shit, no wonder they are pushing so hard to get him in -- he paid his dues big time to the BFEE.

[DinahMoeHum]

12. Let Bush recess-appoint the mofo, OK? All the more reason

for Howard Dean/DNC to hammer the 'Pukes on this issue like a tent peg for the next 17 months until the 2006 elections.

:kick:

[fryguy]

13. check the make-up of congress.....no way an impeachment for either happens

To pass articles of impeachment in the House a simple majority is needed. As it stands now, the split is 231 (R) 200 (D) 1 (I) which means 16 GOPers would have to cross their party and vote in favor of any article of impeachment - and that's assuming all 200 Dems and lone the Ind hold their ranks.

Then, once in the Senate the vote to convict someone on an article of impeachment requires a two-thirds majority. Again, the GOP holds sway there by a 5 vote margin (assuming the independent votes with the dems), meaning 18 GOP senators would have to vote in our favor.

Basically, given the current make-up of Congress, notwithstanding the ire we all have with Bush&Co., the falling poll numbers, and the apparent cracks within the GOP facade, there is realistically no chance that we will be seeing any of these criminals impeached......but it's sure nice to dream.....

[wicket]

17. whoa, I missed something

He's connected to Plame too???? Sheesh, Bolton is one slimy being. :grr:

[seemslikeadream]

22. Bolton stuff

Frist & McCain Raise Ante on Bolton Cloture Vote (TWN)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1547952#1548295

New Bolton scandal re: NSA intercept - it's STILL not over yet....
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3796591

Was Bolton behind death of State Department official?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=3525714

Bolton Said to Orchestrate Unlawful Firing (Downing Street Memo Alert!!)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1523137

WoW! Bolton Stopped UN WMD Inspectors Going to Iraq!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=3785495

Harry Reid Speaks Boldly on Bolton this Morning:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=3866299

Did Bolton do Dick Cheney's biding to suppress info by outing Plame
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=3655510