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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 11:42 AM
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John Kerry says Bush was elected by supreme court by 1 vote
on face the nation. i thought it sounded funny. bush was elected by the united states supreme court by 1 vote.
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adadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 11:44 AM
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1. He had me
jumping up and down, clapping when he said that!!! LOL
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 11:46 AM
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6. i thought it sounded funny
it made bush seem like a total loser. which is really is so it wasn't that difficult. not only that he was elected by the court, but evenon the court by just 1 one.
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 11:44 AM
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2. And John Kerry
Is 100% correct.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 12:26 PM
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32. Now he brings it up. Yep, this is what he told us to GET OVER.
Edited on Sun Jan-25-04 12:28 PM by shance
This is why I cannot vote for a man who, in one moment, dismissively tells Americans that we should get over it, "it" being the 2000 coup de etat that has BROUGHT US TO THIS PLACE in our nation

and then, because he wants to maintain his front runner status, is now telling us the evils of how Bush was elected.

I believe if it were NOT for that election, we would not have 9/11, we would NOT be in Iraq, we would NOT be having to fight every nuthead Justice Bush is trying to put on the courts, we would not have to be fighting these insane, truly evil assaults on our environment,water, and aie we would NOT have Marriage Protection Bullshit Day,

we would not have John Ashcroft and the Patriot Acts, monitoring every American citizen defining whoever he wants to as being a terrorist,

we as woman, would not be essentially invisible to an Administration that only values women who tow their line or who are making babies, we would not be going on a wild goose chase to Mars and the moon (yet*), spending more money that we dont have, and a program which is essentially to build more defense and big brother up there, and of course there might be oil on Mars.....

I could continue..

This is why John Kerry doesnt seem to get it. He, like George Bush, has not known what its like to a be a normal person living under such day to day circumstances and assaults on our lives and our country. I know about Vietnam, but Im speaking about normal day to day life in America.

Neither Bush nor Kerry have ever had one ounce of financial anxiety in their lives and John Kerry tells us to get over it. Pretty easy to say from that guilded tower.

Im sorry - this late hour epiphany of his is so contrived.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 11:44 AM
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3. A lot of people have been saying this for a few years now...
...nice to know John Kerry is behind the curve once again.
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 11:47 AM
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7. his campaign staff have probably read DU
and the vitrol about Kerry's bending over for Bush every chance he gets.
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LizW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 11:47 AM
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8. Yep, Clinton has been using that line for a long time
"Bush won the presidency fair and square. 5 votes to 4."
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 11:48 AM
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9. Yeah
Where was he (or any Senator for that matter) on January 6, 2001, when it came time for the counting of the electoral vote?
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 11:55 AM
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19. None of the Candidates from the Senate Have Credibility on This Issue
The Congressional Black Caucus tried to challenge the Florida results in congress. Their motion needed one senator's support to proceeed. None would sign on. Not one.

The presidential candidate's from the senate had an opportunity to stand up on this issue when it mattered and they failed. To pretend it's an issue now is meaningless rhetoric.
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 12:01 PM
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23. The CBC tried to save our democracy
Where was Kerry anyway?
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 12:03 PM
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25. gore spoke against maxine waters
to the loud cheering and applause of the gop congress members.
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 12:04 PM
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26. Gore
is not running.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 12:45 PM
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33. The ONLY reason I think that they wouldn't have done this...
Is the fear that Dennis Hastert (Tom DeLay) would become president by line of succession. Otherwise I'm sure Ted Kennedy would've objected in a heartbeat.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 11:44 AM
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4. says clark has talked to him since that "jr officer" thing
doesn't think people care about it.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 11:53 AM
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17. i mean
he(kerry) doesn't think people care about the whole thing much. i guess clark or himself personally contacted the other some time recently over this. not sure what they said though. he said something good things about clark on the show though.
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BansheeBarbie Donating Member (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 11:45 AM
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5. Kerry Thinks We Should Stop "Crying In Our Teacups"
and "Get Over It".

Kerry did nothing during the recount except hope it failed so he could run right now!

What a guy.
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Monte Carlo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 11:48 AM
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10. He did plenty.
As much as a Senator can be expected to do. He spoken about this during and shortly after the election fiasco.
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 11:57 AM
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20. Why
didn't he support the motion by the Congressional Black Caucus to challenge the Florida results?
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Monte Carlo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 12:00 PM
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21. I don't know, why don't you ask him?
There must be an answer to that somewhere, but if I were to guess, he might have followed the directions of the Gore campaign.
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adadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 12:02 PM
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24. I believe you
are correct. Gore gave up to easily...I have always believed this.
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Mike Niendorff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 12:15 PM
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30. No, he did not.

He did not stand up and join with the Congressional Black Caucus when they brought their objections to the Senate floor. That, IMHO, is the least that a Senator can be expected to do. And there is not one Senator -- Democratic or Republican -- who did not betray their public trust on that day. Not John Kerry, not anyone else.

Now, I can certainly understand the zeal here to support one's candidate and one's party, but not to the extent of papering over the facts of their records.

That being said, I'm glad to hear that Kerry is now calling Bush's legitimacy into question. He is right to do it, and I applaud him for it. BUT: to pretend that, when it really mattered, he did "as much as a Senator can be expected to do" ... well, that is just 100% pure grade A bullshit. Neither he nor any of his fellow Democratic Senators met this standard, and they should not be falsely credited for doing so.


MDN
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 11:48 AM
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11. people should stop crying
when maxine waters stood up in congress against sealing the election results gore was against her.she made some comment which gore disputed to the applause of right wing assholes in congress.
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Metrix Donating Member (293 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 11:48 AM
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12. Are you absolutely sure about that?
That he did not stand up for Gore during the recount? Because I distinctly remember otherwise.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 11:48 AM
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13. Nice--Kerry was one of the ONLY dems supporting Gore during the recount
But of course, don't let honesty get in your way.
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adadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 12:01 PM
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22. Gore told us the same thing
using different words.

That didn't stop me from going to the Inaugural protests. It's the system that's screwed up and it still has not been addressed. The electoral college is obsolete. The popular vote, like in any game, should take precedence.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 12:15 PM
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29. Out of context - was a rallying cry to get active n/t
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 11:49 AM
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14. Go John Go...
I'm glad to see Kerry took the high road and didn't mention what an ugly thug brother Jebbo is...or the racist way the Bush Crime Family kept thousands of Florida's black citizens from voting...

There's no reason to dwell in the past or mention that James Baker boasted openly overseas of "fixing the election."
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mike1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 11:50 AM
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15. I wish he hadn't said "wmds may yet be found..."
:eyes:
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adadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 12:07 PM
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27. Like he said
he saw pictures and documents. Though it appears that way we still don't have 100% proof.
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liberalitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 11:52 AM
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16. we need more...
of that....
I WANT them to compare to two guys' military records.
I WANT to know what Kerry (A navy man) felt when he saw that guy in a flight suit on the deck of that boat.... if he hasn't said so already.
Didn't clark joke about bush having to borrow a flight suit, suffixing it with he already had one of his own... Having flown with many pilots as a service man
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 11:55 AM
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18. kerry has been doing that for months
kerry has been going after bush for the flight suit for months. he even used the footage in an ad. says he knows something about an aircraft carrier unlike bush. he says this in just about every speech he does. and usually tops it off with "bring it on".
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adadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 12:09 PM
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28. Only Clark or Kerry wouldn't
have to stuff the crotch with socks!
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bif Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 12:15 PM
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31. No shit Sherlock! Were've ya been for 3 yearz?
n/t
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